Tomlin's record in 1 possession games

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Re: Tomlin's record in 1 possession games

Post by .Kodiak » Sat Oct 04, 2025 2:51 pm

Havoc wrote:
Sat Oct 04, 2025 2:04 am
It took a drive for the ages for Tomlin to get his Barry Switzer ring. Our vaunted defense couldn't hold the lead.
Needed not one, but two of the greatest plays in SB history. And then, two years later, decides to "ease in" and "probe" with the healthier and experienced roster....gets boat raced, which we now know is a feature not a bug.

Cowher wins that game, and probably at least one other SB. He knows it, more or less said as much on Ben's show.



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Post by drmalba » Sun Oct 05, 2025 5:32 pm

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I mean mostly that the other team was out of it but also that the Steelers weren't fooling anybody that they were Super Bowl contenders when they needed to win their last 4 or whatever to make the postseason.
Right, teams who have a chance to get to the postseason should check with their closest internet forums to make sure they are worthy contenders.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Mon Oct 06, 2025 2:42 am

drmalba wrote:
Sun Oct 05, 2025 5:32 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Thu Oct 02, 2025 3:28 pm
I mean mostly that the other team was out of it but also that the Steelers weren't fooling anybody that they were Super Bowl contenders when they needed to win their last 4 or whatever to make the postseason.
Right, teams who have a chance to get to the postseason should check with their closest internet forums to make sure they are worthy contenders.
I think the teams in question know in their heart of hearts how real it all is. And maybe the closer they get to the Super Bowl, the more they start to believe.

Yes, a win is a win. But also true that some wins are more valuable than others.

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Post by anpsteel » Mon Oct 06, 2025 12:27 pm

.Kodiak wrote:
Sat Oct 04, 2025 2:51 pm
Havoc wrote:
Sat Oct 04, 2025 2:04 am
It took a drive for the ages for Tomlin to get his Barry Switzer ring. Our vaunted defense couldn't hold the lead.
Needed not one, but two of the greatest plays in SB history. And then, two years later, decides to "ease in" and "probe" with the healthier and experienced roster....gets boat raced, which we now know is a feature not a bug.

Cowher wins that game, and probably at least one other SB. He knows it, more or less said as much on Ben's show.
If Tomlin truly admitted that Cowher would’ve won more Super Bowls, I would be amazed at that

Also in respect to the Steelers chances in the game against the Packers, I was not at all optimistic

The matchups were not favorable across the board. The Steelers had a marginal if not bad Secondary against Aaron Rodgers and a bunch of good to excellent receivers.

The Steelers offensive line was banged up and struggling

The game being close, was much more a function of the Packers wide receivers dropping the ball Iirc, the Packers receivers dropped at least four key passes, which would have significantly changed the scoring

In fact, I was significantly more confident in the 95 team against the Cowboys than the 2010 team against the Packers

I suppose there might’ve been some factoring of the head coach into that confidence but the people on the field were just not a good matchup in 2010

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Post by Deebo » Mon Oct 06, 2025 12:33 pm

anpsteel wrote:
Mon Oct 06, 2025 12:27 pm
.Kodiak wrote:
Sat Oct 04, 2025 2:51 pm
Havoc wrote:
Sat Oct 04, 2025 2:04 am
It took a drive for the ages for Tomlin to get his Barry Switzer ring. Our vaunted defense couldn't hold the lead.
Needed not one, but two of the greatest plays in SB history. And then, two years later, decides to "ease in" and "probe" with the healthier and experienced roster....gets boat raced, which we now know is a feature not a bug.

Cowher wins that game, and probably at least one other SB. He knows it, more or less said as much on Ben's show.
If Tomlin truly admitted that Cowher would’ve won more Super Bowls, I would be amazed at that

Also in respect to the Steelers chances in the game against the Packers, I was not at all optimistic

The matchups were not favorable across the board. The Steelers had a marginal if not bad Secondary against Aaron Rodgers and a bunch of good to excellent receivers.

The Steelers offensive line was banged up and struggling

The game being close, was much more a function of the Packers wide receivers dropping the ball Iirc, the Packers receivers dropped at least four key passes, which would have significantly changed the scoring

In fact, I was significantly more confident in the 95 team against the Cowboys than the 2010 team against the Packers

I suppose there might’ve been some factoring of the head coach into that confidence but the people on the field were just not a good matchup in 2010
Weren't the Packers missing like 8 starters themselves?

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Post by anpsteel » Mon Oct 06, 2025 12:36 pm

Deebo wrote:
Mon Oct 06, 2025 12:33 pm
anpsteel wrote:
Mon Oct 06, 2025 12:27 pm
.Kodiak wrote:
Sat Oct 04, 2025 2:51 pm


Needed not one, but two of the greatest plays in SB history. And then, two years later, decides to "ease in" and "probe" with the healthier and experienced roster....gets boat raced, which we now know is a feature not a bug.

Cowher wins that game, and probably at least one other SB. He knows it, more or less said as much on Ben's show.
If Tomlin truly admitted that Cowher would’ve won more Super Bowls, I would be amazed at that

Also in respect to the Steelers chances in the game against the Packers, I was not at all optimistic

The matchups were not favorable across the board. The Steelers had a marginal if not bad Secondary against Aaron Rodgers and a bunch of good to excellent receivers.

The Steelers offensive line was banged up and struggling

The game being close, was much more a function of the Packers wide receivers dropping the ball Iirc, the Packers receivers dropped at least four key passes, which would have significantly changed the scoring

In fact, I was significantly more confident in the 95 team against the Cowboys than the 2010 team against the Packers

I suppose there might’ve been some factoring of the head coach into that confidence but the people on the field were just not a good matchup in 2010
Weren't the Packers missing like 8 starters themselves?
I don’t recall that, but I it’s possible.

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Post by Gonzo » Mon Oct 06, 2025 3:58 pm

there was no excuse for "easing in" ... and it wasnt just an off-handed remark ... it is what they did.
And it was our first glimpse at was to become a core element of the Plan
Tomlin at his core is an EXTREMELY conservative coach who places defense at the front and believes strongly in not straying ever from the Set
I think he believes and has sold Rooney that -- the playoffs are a short season and crap-shoot ... its most important to just make it and then hope for a run.

That Plan works at a macro level -- his fatal flaws are: (i) a refusal or inability to deviate from what he knows and/or look at micro matters. He would likely say his "gut" calls are deciding not to go down a rabbit hole of what-ifs and analytics (that he views as useless); and (ii) the serious disconnect between the Plan he wants to run and his (and/or the teams) inability to draft and develop to that Plan. The refusal to hire high quality assistants is at the heart of this IMO.

His conservatism mixed with his ego are what we have now -- and his ego has been fed by owners and media selling us that he has actually accomplished great things the last decade -- NHALS and over-achieving with lesser talent (although noone wants to talk about why we have lesser talent and poor assistant coaches)

and to be fair, I will say he HAS accomplished things ... he did win a SB and make another. He has had winning seasons which seem to matter greatly to this Owner. I am just of the very strong opinion that his Plan and his flaws will not change and are doomed to continue to fail at the big job of building a team that has a chance at SBs.

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