Snap Counts, Time of Possession, Turnovers, The Outlier

[Stosh-67]

The Steelers as we have recognized this year, have been in a down spiraling snap count deficiency.
Poor offense, 3 and outs, lack of sustained drives, poor 3rd down defense, not getting off the field, etc.

More snaps for the opponents and less for the Steelers means less tome of possession, etc. etc. defense get tired, and it snow balls.

We need turn overs to win games.
6 vs the Colts to win only by 7 points
5 vs the Pats to win by only 7 points.
A late 4th quarter turnover to beat the Jets by a few points.
Yesterdays 2 defensive touchdowns.

We have the second most takeaways, 18 behind the Bears. 22, our next opponent.
+8 turnover margin is 4th in the league behind TB +9, Rams +10 and the Bears +16.

We have been averaging only 55 snaps per game, one of the lowest marks in the NFL over the last 20+ years.
Yesterday was a step in the right direction, as we had 65....to the Bengal's 66.

Our two best offensive players, Warren and arguably Darnell Washington, have not had enough snaps from their offensive groups.
We have seen over the past few weeks these two guys having less snaps than Gainwell and Jonu.

Gainwell was seeing more snaps than Warren thru yesterdays game once again. At least yesterday Gainwell was producing some chain moving plays, his best game of the year. Yes Warren got dinged, but came back a few plays later or the next series.

Still....Gainwell 41 snaps, Warren 18....was well on his way to having many more snaps of the two.

Of note, Gainwell is now 2nd on the team in receptions, one behind DK with 36.
The Steelers may have had their best screen game, short outlet pass, chain moving game of the last half decade?

Another note....
Spencer Anderson had 14 snaps to Warrens 18.
Madness. Madness.
If we continue to put less skilled and less explosive players on the field more and more....
we will continue to score less points on offense.


Warrens had 28% of the offensive snap counts yesterday and that has been heading lower and lower the last 5 weeks;
65%
62%
57%
46%
28%

The Steelers got their head right yesterday and had Darnell on the field for 71% of the offensive snaps with 48. Man is he fun and scary to watch.
Darnell 48,
Jonu 35,
Mooth 30,
Heyward 5

The Steelers are now 4-0 when Darnell has 40+ snaps.

It was criminal that last week he was 3rd on the team in TE snaps vs Chargers.
Jonu 35
Mooth 26
DW 25.

Where is the logic and proportion?

Roman Wilson is slowly getting more of the #2 snaps.
57% and 37 snaps to CA3s 19 snaps.
He should be used more on easy pitch and catch plays....6-8 yard outs and 6-10 yard curls. He has the speed to sell those routes long and create separation for these football 101 routes.

I have been complaining about the Steelers cutting edge philosophy of putting their slowest offensive skill players in motion....and even Spencer Anderson in motion....as opposed to Wilson and Austin, their two fastest players....who also will benefit getting free releases.

I believe the lone Wilson catch yesterday was him going in motion and then coming back across the field for the wide open catch at the hashes and then out of bounds. Utilizes these guys speed.

[Deebo]

It only took them, what, 2.5 years to properly utilize Washington?

Fucking imbeciles running this team

[Stosh-67]

It only took them, what, 2.5 years to properly utilize Washington?

Fucking imbeciles running this team

Insane.
This kid would be a 60-75 catch weapon on Chiefs, Colts, Chargers, Bills, Lions, Rams, Seattle, Minny, Cowboys, TB, Ravens, Eagles, Packers, Niners....add 10-15 other teams.

[Stosh-67]

On defense..........
as much as we scratch our heads on what they do and don't do on defense.....
if we said on Labor Day.....
That week eleven would see our secondary snap leaders be...

Duggar 66 - 100% of defensive snaps.
Pierre 65
Echols 49

Was Echols on opening roster?

[Mick]

Weird that there’s not a standard combined 3rd/4th conversion rate…

On offense, we’ve concerted 43 3rd downs, good for 27th; from all those 4th down opportunities we’ve created for ourselves, we’ve picked up 4, good for last in the NFL. Combine 43+4 = 47, which is a hair ahead of tennessee and the vikings (so 30th, i guess).

On defense, we’ve allowed 60 3rd down conversions, which puts us 30th, and allowed 18 (!) 4th down conversions, good for 32nd. 60 + 18 = 78 drives sustained after forcing 3rd down, which is easily worst in the league (6 more than the bengals).

Seems bad.

[jebrick]

I believe the lone Wilson catch yesterday was him going in motion and then coming back across the field for the wide open catch at the hashes and then out of bounds. Utilizes these guys speed.

Only been saying this about CA3 for three years but 1990s offense do not do that.

[Ice]

I believe the lone Wilson catch yesterday was him going in motion and then coming back across the field for the wide open catch at the hashes and then out of bounds. Utilizes these guys speed.

Only been saying this about CA3 for three years but 1990s offense do not do that.

The 5-wide we used on the way to the Super Bowl in 1995 utilized quite effectively a deep group of speedy WRs.

I'll also mention here that McVay and the Rams' offense has been utilizing the same 31 personnel the Steelers employ, as often and maybe with more frequency than the Tomlin/Uncle Artie offense, with excellent results in both the running and passing game.

Coaching and playcalling.

[Jizz Mop]

Weird that there’s not a standard combined 3rd/4th conversion rate…

On offense, we’ve concerted 43 3rd downs, good for 27th; from all those 4th down opportunities we’ve created for ourselves, we’ve picked up 4, good for last in the NFL. Combine 43+4 = 47, which is a hair ahead of tennessee and the vikings (so 30th, i guess).

On defense, we’ve allowed 60 3rd down conversions, which puts us 30th, and allowed 18 (!) 4th down conversions, good for 32nd. 60 + 18 = 78 drives sustained after forcing 3rd down, which is easily worst in the league (6 more than the bengals).

IS bad.

Fixed

[jebrick]

I believe the lone Wilson catch yesterday was him going in motion and then coming back across the field for the wide open catch at the hashes and then out of bounds. Utilizes these guys speed.

Only been saying this about CA3 for three years but 1990s offense do not do that.

The 5-wide we used on the way to the Super Bowl in 1995 utilized quite effectively a deep group of speedy WRs.

I'll also mention here that McVay and the Rams' offense has been utilizing the same 31 personnel the Steelers employ, as often and maybe with more frequency than the Tomlin/Uncle Artie offense, with excellent results in both the running and passing game.

Coaching and playcalling.

I did not see that in Joe Walton's offense. Not the Steeler way,.

[Ice]

Only been saying this about CA3 for three years but 1990s offense do not do that.

The 5-wide we used on the way to the Super Bowl in 1995 utilized quite effectively a deep group of speedy WRs.

I'll also mention here that McVay and the Rams' offense has been utilizing the same 31 personnel the Steelers employ, as often and maybe with more frequency than the Tomlin/Uncle Artie offense, with excellent results in both the running and passing game.

Coaching and playcalling.

I did not see that in Joe Walton's offense. Not the Steeler way,.

So, actually 1990's offense... I see what you did there.

Eric Green was on that 1990 team at TE, right?

[AirRescueFF]

It only took them, what, 2.5 years to properly utilize Washington?

Fucking imbeciles running this team

Insane.
This kid would be a 60-75 catch weapon on Chiefs, Colts, Chargers, Bills, Lions, Rams, Seattle, Minny, Cowboys, TB, Ravens, Eagles, Packers, Niners....add 10-15 other teams.

Especially Rams with their highest use of 13 Personnel.