I think there's a good chance Tomlin steps away after this season

[CKSteeler]

Steelers fans need to make their voices heard in a way that can't be dismissed. The fire Tomlin chants need to ring out loud and clear during the last two home games.

One thing that may really benefit the Steelers here is that...the draft is actually in Pittsburgh this year. Art II will be present. It wouldn't shock me if that dirtbag was deathly afraid of actually being booed, seeing his own draft picks booed and fire Tomlin chants breaking out there. It would be a humiliation for him and ruin the entire moment for him (which probably ranks above the Super Bowl wins for this clown).

It sounds ridiculous, but I guarantee you that if this shit escalates he'll be thinking about it and dreading it. And that sort of energy is the only way anything happens and the status quo is broken.

[Gonzo]

next year with the draft in pittsburgh is the perfect moment to wipe it clean, start again and build excitement with a new young staff and team.

if they fail to make playoffs this year / status quo next year is asking for fan revolt and dampening what could be a cool moment and pivot for the franchise

my fear is the half-ass .... that totally doesn't understand the situation. they will fire assistants and declare faith in tomlin ahead of the draft. give the keys to a new steelers team to tomlin

[CoolShades]

A trade with the Giants would make perfect sense, Rooney and Mara have a connection, Giants need a big name coach, and the Steelers could have the 1,2, or 3 pick next year from the Giants plus their pick which will probably end up being top 10.

Mnf pregame crew discussed how the giants move forward

Guess who was the preferred replacement for Daboll ?

Tomlin. Person escaped me but he said Tomlin would be prefect for the new young guys

I kid you not

It’s picking up steam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCVIj-Q8Ppc

WFAN discussing the situation. Read the video comments. Very few fans are on board, but there seems to be a groundswell of excitement here. Let’s make it so!

[K_C_]

“That’s just pride fuckin with you.”

Tomlin won’t walk away, resign or retire.

Way too prideful

If anything Rooney will promote him.

Announce a move to the front office

Once upon a time pontificated by B2B, Tomlin could one day be calling ALL the shots for your once beloved Pittsburgh Steelers

THAT would SUCK

Nah, I disagree. Even the Rooney's (by the end of this season especially) will understand a change has to be made.

Tomlin I agree, has a huge ego. The entire crowd at Acrisure Stadium chanting "FIRE MIKE TOMLIN" isn't helping Mike Tomlin's pride.

Coach Cool Shades, in a word, is fucked. Sure, he can hang on for 2 more years and get his money. We all know how that will turn out.

It'll be a disaster. This team is getting worse. Watt isn't washed, but he's clearly lost a step (maybe 2.) Heyward is washed. The young d-linemen either suck, or they aren't being put in a situation to succeed and do you think Mike Tomlin will fix that? I don't. Highsmith shows up 2 or 3 games per year. We have major problems both at corner and safety. I don't need to tell you how bad things are offensively.

Mike Tomlin isn't fixing any of this shit and neither is a first round QB. Ben Roethlisberger walked into a ready made situation for him to succeed. A first round QB walking into what Cool Shades has built is gonna look just like....wait for it....Kenny Pickett.

Tomlin sticks around and he seriously might coach his way out of the Hall of Fame.

Also, as others have been saying, The Steelers would NEVER owe Mike Tomlin anything close to $40 million because if they fire him, he'll get another job for big money and they'll be paying him pennies on the dollar, if anything.

Nah, we're at the end of Mike Tomlin era in Pittsburgh. Either he'll step away and take a few years off to reset, or he'll be fired/traded.

He will not be the Pittsburgh Steelers head coach in 2026.

[swissvale72]

“That’s just pride fuckin with you.”

Tomlin won’t walk away, resign or retire.

Way too prideful

If anything Rooney will promote him.

Announce a move to the front office

Once upon a time pontificated by B2B, Tomlin could one day be calling ALL the shots for your once beloved Pittsburgh Steelers

THAT would SUCK

Nah, I disagree. Even the Rooney's (by the end of this season especially) will understand a change has to be made.

Tomlin I agree, has a huge ego. The entire crowd at Acrisure Stadium chanting "FIRE MIKE TOMLIN" isn't helping Mike Tomlin's pride.

Coach Cool Shades, in a word, is fucked. Sure, he can hang on for 2 more years and get his money. We all know how that will turn out.

It'll be a disaster. This team is getting worse. Watt isn't washed, but he's clearly lost a step (maybe 2.) Heyward is washed. The young d-linemen either suck, or they aren't being put in a situation to succeed and do you think Mike Tomlin will fix that? I don't. Highsmith shows up 2 or 3 games per year. We have major problems both at corner and safety. I don't need to tell you how bad things are offensively.

Mike Tomlin isn't fixing any of this shit and neither is a first round QB. Ben Roethlisberger walked into a ready made situation for him to succeed. A first round QB walking into what Cool Shades has built is gonna look just like....wait for it....Kenny Pickett.

Tomlin sticks around and he seriously might coach his way out of the Hall of Fame.

Also, as others have been saying, The Steelers would NEVER owe Mike Tomlin anything close to $40 million because if they fire him, he'll get another job for big money and they'll be paying him pennies on the dollar, if anything.

Nah, we're at the end of Mike Tomlin era in Pittsburgh. Either he'll step away and take a few years off to reset, or he'll be fired/traded.

He will not be the Pittsburgh Steelers head coach in 2026.

Of course he will be.

[.Kodiak]

Like someone else said, everyone knows - including Tomlin - he can't build a team. So I don't think NYG would want him, nor would he go there. Tomlin would get eaten alive by the NY fans.

Although, interestingly enough, NYG have lost 6 games after leading by 10 points. A dubious NFL record Tomlin doesn't have yet....

Tomlin might be of interest to a desperate team just to placate fans for a few years. But the complete lack of a coaching tree indicates the "have a job in 5 minutes" crowd might be grossly overstating demand.

[bradshaw2ben]

A trade with the Giants would make perfect sense, Rooney and Mara have a connection, Giants need a big name coach, and the Steelers could have the 1,2, or 3 pick next year from the Giants plus their pick which will probably end up being top 10.

Mnf pregame crew discussed how the giants move forward

Guess who was the preferred replacement for Daboll ?

Tomlin. Person escaped me but he said Tomlin would be prefect for the new young guys

I kid you not

It’s picking up steam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCVIj-Q8Ppc

WFAN discussing the situation. Read the video comments. Very few fans are on board, but there seems to be a groundswell of excitement here. Let’s make it so!

It's quite possibly the perfect situation for Tomlin. The Mara's operate much like the Rooneys--they are old school as it gets. The team in is the biggest media market in the league. They *might* have a young QB and some pieces. Dart could certainly be a clutch handoff monkey––he may not be a lot of things, but the kid is tough as nails.

If Tomlin agrees to a trade and they move him for proper compensation it would be better than trading Claypool for a 1st. If it's accompanied by Art II stepping aside, it would be the greatest offseason the franchise has had in nearly 60 years.

[.Kodiak]

They *might* have a young QB and some pieces. Dart could certainly be a clutch handoff monkey––he may not be a lot of things, but the kid is tough as nails.

There's enough pieces there for 9-8!

[955876]

Mnf pregame crew discussed how the giants move forward

Guess who was the preferred replacement for Daboll ?

Tomlin. Person escaped me but he said Tomlin would be prefect for the new young guys

I kid you not

It’s picking up steam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCVIj-Q8Ppc

WFAN discussing the situation. Read the video comments. Very few fans are on board, but there seems to be a groundswell of excitement here. Let’s make it so!

It's quite possibly the perfect situation for Tomlin. The Mara's operate much like the Rooneys--they are old school as it gets. The team in is the biggest media market in the league. They *might* have a young QB and some pieces. Dart could certainly be a clutch handoff monkey––he may not be a lot of things, but the kid is tough as nails.

If Tomlin agrees to a trade and they move him for proper compensation it would be better than trading Claypool for a 1st. If it's accompanied by Art II stepping aside, it would be the greatest offseason the franchise has had in nearly 60 years.

Then Dorothy woke up and realized that she wasn’t in Oz anymore.

While this would be great, my guess is that Art circles the wagons (after making Mikey fire a couple assistants) and then goes all in on making the draft a successful spectacle.

He has much to do before the draft. Won’t want to replace a HC that does everything for him.

And Jibbs won’t accept a trade to NY. He might be dumb on the football field but he knows damn well his bullshit won’t last long with the NY media.

Hope I’m wrong.

[bradshaw2ben]

It’s picking up steam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCVIj-Q8Ppc

WFAN discussing the situation. Read the video comments. Very few fans are on board, but there seems to be a groundswell of excitement here. Let’s make it so!

It's quite possibly the perfect situation for Tomlin. The Mara's operate much like the Rooneys--they are old school as it gets. The team in is the biggest media market in the league. They *might* have a young QB and some pieces. Dart could certainly be a clutch handoff monkey––he may not be a lot of things, but the kid is tough as nails.

If Tomlin agrees to a trade and they move him for proper compensation it would be better than trading Claypool for a 1st. If it's accompanied by Art II stepping aside, it would be the greatest offseason the franchise has had in nearly 60 years.

Then Dorothy woke up and realized that she wasn’t in Oz anymore.

While this would be great, my guess is that Art circles the wagons (after making Mikey fire a couple assistants) and then goes all in on making the draft a successful spectacle.

He has much to do before the draft. Won’t want to replace a HC that does everything for him.

And Jibbs won’t accept a trade to NY. He might be dumb on the football field but he knows damn well his bullshit won’t last long with the NY media.

Hope I’m wrong.

You could be right... but the handoff to Danny Rooney has got to be close. Hard to beleive tghey would saddle Danny with a HC and a QB he didn't choose himself.

[Jizz Mop]

95:

You are correct about NY

Their media, like Philly, is absolutely brutal

Not like the pussies who masquerade as journalists in western PA

If he pulled this shit in either of those markets he’d be long gone

Sirianni won a fucking SB and fans were calling for his head not a year later

[K_C_]

“That’s just pride fuckin with you.”

Tomlin won’t walk away, resign or retire.

Way too prideful

If anything Rooney will promote him.

Announce a move to the front office

Once upon a time pontificated by B2B, Tomlin could one day be calling ALL the shots for your once beloved Pittsburgh Steelers

THAT would SUCK

Nah, I disagree. Even the Rooney's (by the end of this season especially) will understand a change has to be made.

Tomlin I agree, has a huge ego. The entire crowd at Acrisure Stadium chanting "FIRE MIKE TOMLIN" isn't helping Mike Tomlin's pride.

Coach Cool Shades, in a word, is fucked. Sure, he can hang on for 2 more years and get his money. We all know how that will turn out.

It'll be a disaster. This team is getting worse. Watt isn't washed, but he's clearly lost a step (maybe 2.) Heyward is washed. The young d-linemen either suck, or they aren't being put in a situation to succeed and do you think Mike Tomlin will fix that? I don't. Highsmith shows up 2 or 3 games per year. We have major problems both at corner and safety. I don't need to tell you how bad things are offensively.

Mike Tomlin isn't fixing any of this shit and neither is a first round QB. Ben Roethlisberger walked into a ready made situation for him to succeed. A first round QB walking into what Cool Shades has built is gonna look just like....wait for it....Kenny Pickett.

Tomlin sticks around and he seriously might coach his way out of the Hall of Fame.

Also, as others have been saying, The Steelers would NEVER owe Mike Tomlin anything close to $40 million because if they fire him, he'll get another job for big money and they'll be paying him pennies on the dollar, if anything.

Nah, we're at the end of Mike Tomlin era in Pittsburgh. Either he'll step away and take a few years off to reset, or he'll be fired/traded.

He will not be the Pittsburgh Steelers head coach in 2026.

Of course he will be.

We'll see.

They will very, very likely get roasted by Baltimore this weekend. How in the fuck are they going to stop Derrick Henry when Buffalo's back up RB could have easily gone for 100 against them if he had a few more touches?

The Lions will put up 60 on Tomlin's defense. We'll put up 2 Boz field goals.

Tomlin will look mystified and clueless after both games.

The media that used to protect Mike Tomlin are ALL calling for him to either be fired or for both parties (the Steelers and Tomlin) to separate, which would be beneficial to both Cool Shades and the Steelers.

This season isn't over yet. It can (and very likely will) get a lot worse.

If Tomlin stays, next year will be worse. Not maybe. Guaranteed worse.

If they draft a QB in the first round, it isn't going to be a kid like Mendoza who is ready to step in and start from day one.

That QB is going to be a project. When have you ever seen a QB develop under Mike Tomlin's watch?

Dude doesn't even have a coaching tree. By the time this season's over, you'll be agreeing with me that Cool Shades will be out in Pittsburgh.

You'll see.

[955876]

Hope you are right.

[TTP]

I absolutely hate when people try to interpret others body language - in sports, politics, etc. But, I am going to do it anyway. Tomlin looks different to me. Defeated. The usual (false) swagger is just not there, even in press conferences. He seems checked out and distant. He's lost the team and knows it. He has zero answers and knows it. I think he's done after this year and will walk away no matter what happens with the rest of the season.

[Jizz Mop]

I absolutely hate when people try to interpret others body language - in sports, politics, etc. But, I am going to do it anyway. Tomlin looks different to me. Defeated. The usual (false) swagger is just not there, even in press conferences. He seems checked out and distant. He's lost the team and knows it. He has zero answers and knows it. I think he's done after this year and will walk away no matter what happens with the rest of the season.

I’d jizz in my pants at the announcement

[Dan Smith--BYU]

This isn't some dumb middle school drama. No adult is going to just walk away from 40 million dollars because he lost confidence or something. Tomlin is holding all the monetary and psychological cards over Art Robin DeAngelo Rooney, why should he fold?

[K_C_]

I absolutely hate when people try to interpret others body language - in sports, politics, etc. But, I am going to do it anyway. Tomlin looks different to me. Defeated. The usual (false) swagger is just not there, even in press conferences. He seems checked out and distant. He's lost the team and knows it. He has zero answers and knows it. I think he's done after this year and will walk away no matter what happens with the rest of the season.

This, to me, is your key statement.

In the past, the team would somehow rally to this bug-eyed dumbfuck's defense would pull victories out of their asses to save Tomlin from massive criticism and scrutiny. His mediocrity would be safe for another year.

Does anyone see THIS team saving Tomlin? Rodgers looks old and beaten and I'm certain he wishes he hadn't signed with the Steelers. Those running lanes that were big earlier in the year are closing quickly now. Why? Teams no longer fear all those TE's lumbering downfield trying to get open. The defense....my God. This might be the worst Steelers defense since the late 60's. They do NOTHING well.

Tomlin looks like a beaten, shellshocked man and his team doesn't look like it gives a shit. He's toast.

[K_C_]

This isn't some dumb middle school drama. No adult is going to just walk away from 40 million dollars because he lost confidence or something. Tomlin is holding all the monetary and psychological cards over Art Robin DeAngelo Rooney, why should he fold?

Why do people keep saying this?

If Tomlin takes another job, that would cut into what the Steelers owe him. Hasn't that been the narrative forever? "If the Steelers fire Mike Tomlin, he'd have another job the same day!!"

Besides, 40 million isn't franchise breaking money. It's basically 1 year's worth of what guys like Josh Allen, Mahomes, etc. are making. Elite receivers are making over 30 million per year and the Steelers aren't paying any offensive players other than DK Metcalf big money. They'll be drafting a QB in a few months who will be cheap for his first 3 or 4 years.

The Tomlin/money argument is ridiculous.

[.Kodiak]

This isn't some dumb middle school drama. No adult is going to just walk away from 40 million dollars because he lost confidence or something. Tomlin is holding all the monetary and psychological cards over Art Robin DeAngelo Rooney, why should he fold?

I don't think he'll walk away from $40M and his NHALS streak, and I don't think Rooney will force him.

All the speculation really is conditional on NHALS ending this year. And I'm not sure it will. Don't underestimate NFL parity and the knack of teams losing games to PIT. 9-8 is still more likely than not.

[Steelperch]

Tomlin’s deal is fully guaranteed and has a no trade clause. That makes it just about 100% guaranteed Rooney won’t fire him because he’s a cheap fuck and won’t eat that money on top of firing the Rooney Rule golden child Mike Tomlin.

What more likely happens is Tomlin sees the writing on the wall and agrees to a trade if one is proposed. Rooney frames it as being best case for a fresh start for both parties and they part on good terms.

What is more likely to happen is Tomlin retires and takes a tv deal. He can recharge and watch the league for a year or two and let some tram make him a stupid offer to come back to coach. Or he can go the Bill Cowher route and have much less stress for similar money and stay on tv.

My best guess as to how this plays out:
0% chance Rooney fires Tomlin
10% chance Rooney agrees to trade Tomlin
40% chance Tomlin retires
50% chance we’re stuck with this bug-eyed fuck for one more year.

In that last scenario I’d trade every single high priced player and force Tomlin to go with Rudolph/Howard at QB and play for a top 10 pick next season. Kill NHALS with gas and fire!

[.Kodiak]

Besides, 40 million isn't franchise breaking money.

Teams have to pay out 90% of the cap, so you're comparing apples & oranges. Rooney ain't paying $40M to fire Tomlin AND pay another hot HC prospect.

[K_C_]

This isn't some dumb middle school drama. No adult is going to just walk away from 40 million dollars because he lost confidence or something. Tomlin is holding all the monetary and psychological cards over Art Robin DeAngelo Rooney, why should he fold?

I don't think he'll walk away from $40M and his NHALS streak, and I don't think Rooney will force him.

All the speculation really is conditional on NHALS ending this year. And I'm not sure it will. Don't underestimate NFL parity and the knack of teams losing games to PIT. 9-8 is still more likely than not.

You think NHALS continuing saves Tomlin? Why would it?

When they get spit roasted in the Wildcard game, 37-10, all will be forgiven?

I think we're way past NHALS saving Mike Tomlin. Nobody gives a shit about that amazing feat anymore.

The entire crowd at Acrisure wasn't chanting; "BUT HE'S NEVER HAD A LOSING SEASON" while Buffalo was setting records against Mike Tomlin's defense.

[K_C_]

Besides, 40 million isn't franchise breaking money.

Teams have to pay out 90% of the cap, so you're comparing apples & oranges. Rooney ain't paying $40M to fire Tomlin AND pay another hot HC prospect.

So Tomlin won't take another NFL job if the Steelers fire him?

[.Kodiak]

So Tomlin won't take another NFL job if the Steelers fire him?

You're assuming he'd get an offer he'd want to take. 2007 Steelers aren't out there for him.

He can collect his $40M from PIT, and probably get another $20M from TV over the next two years. Pull a Gruden and wait for his ideal spot. Also provides cover if the offers are, errrr, more underwhelming than anticipated.


Honestly, I don't think Tomlin exits gracefully. If he's fired or pushed out, he's not going to be "just grateful for the opportunity".

[.Kodiak]

You think NHALS continuing saves Tomlin? Why would it?

It's saved him this far, so why wouldn't it? Rooney obviously cares about that streak, among other things, or he'd already be gone.

And NHALS means something to Tomlin, so he's not leaving willingly until he passes Landry.

And they can go 9-8 and not make the playoffs. You're bootstrapping hypotheticals to claim Tomlin is done, not realizing all those conditions/scenarios amount to like a 5% chance.

[Gonzo]

i think the ass-kicking they received at Home Sunday is being under-estimated as a driver.

it was embarrassing and hi-lighted starkly the weaknesses of tomlin and the dumb ass off season moves to prop up this clown. it wasn't just a bad loss - it was humiliating for a number of reasons ... and reasons that have been glaring for years

the fans started chanting for a reason - not just a bad loss ... but they saw a team that had no clue and no heart and quit. cam and watt also took a big hit in the eyes of fans i think

[Steeler_Fanatic]

I don't see Tomlin taking another job if he parts ways with the Steelers. I see him either going the Cowher route and getting in the booth or just retiring and enjoying his life. He's made millions in his career. I don't think he's hurting for money.

[K_C_]

You think NHALS continuing saves Tomlin? Why would it?

It's saved him this far, so why wouldn't it? Rooney obviously cares about that streak, among other things, or he'd already be gone.

And NHALS means something to Tomlin, so he's not leaving willingly until he passes Landry.

And they can go 9-8 and not make the playoffs. You're bootstrapping hypotheticals to claim Tomlin is done, not realizing all those conditions/scenarios amount to like a 5% chance.

Sure gonna be fun to see how this plays out.

The Steelers, Tomlin’s Steelers QUIT against Buffalo. They quit.

The ass beatings aren’t over for this group. No way, no how.

I almost hope Mike Tomlin doesn’t quit or get fired because next year is going to be astoundingly bad.

This team is not only saddled with Tomlin right now, they have no QB and a bunch of bad contracts.

It would be a whole lot funnier for Tomlin to stick around but I don’t think there’s any way he’s that stupid.

Tomlin has a shit ton of pride and the boo birds were just getting warmed up last Sunday.

[CKSteeler]

i think the ass-kicking they received at Home Sunday is being under-estimated as a driver.

it was embarrassing and hi-lighted starkly the weaknesses of tomlin and the dumb ass off season moves to prop up this clown. it wasn't just a bad loss - it was humiliating for a number of reasons ... and reasons that have been glaring for years

the fans started chanting for a reason - not just a bad loss ... but they saw a team that had no clue and no heart and quit. cam and watt also took a big hit in the eyes of fans i think

It can't be emphasized enough and even Art II isn't dumb enough to ignore this reality that every off-season move that Tomlin banged the table for and smugly expected greatness from has resulted in absolute dogshit. The old CB's were Tomlin picks. Old man Rodgers? Yea, it was Tomlin advocating infinite patience. Metcalf for Pickens? Yup, Mediocre Mike's fingerprints are all over it.

You can't even fairly judge the Khan regime because the reality is and will remain this as long Tomlin is here -his fingerprints are all over everything they do from a personnel standpoint. You can't execute two future plans at the same time in a highly competitive league and expect greatness.

This team was simultaneously trying to load up on draft picks because they knew they sucked while also laughably being forced to go all-in to try and win a playoff game (let's be serious, even they know they aren't contenders - they just don't want to hear the bitching about the lack of playoff success and comparisons to Marvin Lewis). You can't be building for the future while desperately holding onto the past.

Two plans. One Tomlin's, one Khan's. That's what I see. It was doomed to failure even if Tomlin wasn't a fucking imbecile who thought it was a good idea to collect two highly paid CB's over 30 and a 41 (now 42 as of today) year old QB.

[Deebo]

You think NHALS continuing saves Tomlin? Why would it?

It's saved him this far, so why wouldn't it? Rooney obviously cares about that streak, among other things, or he'd already be gone.

And NHALS means something to Tomlin, so he's not leaving willingly until he passes Landry.

And they can go 9-8 and not make the playoffs. You're bootstrapping hypotheticals to claim Tomlin is done, not realizing all those conditions/scenarios amount to like a 5% chance.

Sure gonna be fun to see how this plays out.

The Steelers, Tomlin’s Steelers QUIT against Buffalo. They quit.

The ass beatings aren’t over for this group. No way, no how.

I almost hope Mike Tomlin doesn’t quit or get fired because next year is going to be astoundingly bad.

This team is not only saddled with Tomlin right now, they have no QB and a bunch of bad contracts.

It would be a whole lot funnier for Tomlin to stick around but I don’t think there’s any way he’s that stupid.

Tomlin has a shit ton of pride and the boo birds were just getting warmed up last Sunday.

KC- we all want you to be right on this. But I think what you've posited is wishful thinking.

Remember, before Canada was fired, the Steelers had NEVER EVER let a coach go while still under contract. Let's say Canada made 500k-1M per year. If Rooney doesn't want to eat that kind of money, what makes you think he'll do that for someone who makes exponentially more?

The other issue is that its no guarantee Tomlin takes another NFL gig. He could take a year off, he could go to the booth, both likely means Rooney is eating all that money.

I get it...we're close to the nadir of the wolves being turned on Tomlin. But he holds almost all of the cards/leverage. He's stupid, but not dumb.