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Post by DumlinBumlinStumlin » Wed Dec 03, 2025 2:46 am

It’s time for a fresh start for both sides

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Tomlin PC 1/14/25 -“‘Stuck’ is a helpless feeling. I don’t feel helpless,” Tomlin said. “I don’t know if I want to sell you an overly optimistic (tone) either.

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Post by DumlinBumlinStumlin » Wed Dec 03, 2025 11:15 am

Tomlin PC 1/14/25 -“‘Stuck’ is a helpless feeling. I don’t feel helpless,” Tomlin said. “I don’t know if I want to sell you an overly optimistic (tone) either.

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Post by Steeldrama » Wed Dec 03, 2025 12:03 pm

If there is a God, PLEASE OH PLEASE send Tomlin to Penn State!

THAT

Would be AWESOME!
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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Wed Dec 03, 2025 12:09 pm

Steeldrama wrote:
Wed Dec 03, 2025 12:03 pm
If there is a God, PLEASE OH PLEASE send Tomlin to Penn State!

THAT

Would be AWESOME!
Perch will have a stroke when he hears that.

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Post by K_C_ » Wed Dec 03, 2025 12:29 pm

Steeldrama wrote:
Wed Dec 03, 2025 12:03 pm
If there is a God, PLEASE OH PLEASE send Tomlin to Penn State!

THAT

Would be AWESOME!
As an IU fan, I would FUCKING LOVE THIS!!!
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Post by zeke5123 » Wed Dec 03, 2025 1:57 pm

Ehh Tomlin probably would be good at CFB. He isn't soooo bad at coaching that if you give him a massive talent advantage he couldn't win and I think he'd probably have a big talent advantage.

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Post by anpsteel » Wed Dec 03, 2025 1:57 pm

Steeldrama wrote:
Wed Dec 03, 2025 12:03 pm
If there is a God, PLEASE OH PLEASE send Tomlin to Penn State!

THAT

Would be AWESOME!
That would be hilarious

At least half of the Penn State alumni would be in meltdown mode; while Pitt fans would be rejoicing. :lol:
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Post by zeke5123 » Wed Dec 03, 2025 2:02 pm

It's funny -- Ben is still being a bit political. You listen to his comments and the substantive remarks are all extremely critical of Tomlin without specifically calling out Tomlin yet he then is quick to add "he is a great coach" or "he is a HOFer."

But you can tell he thinks Tomlin doesn't hold people accountable, he believes Tomlin's schemes are wrong, and that Tomlin generally makes the wrong tactical decisions. Ben lays it all out. He makes the point that when you keep changing OCs but the offense looks the same, that maybe it isn't the OC. He made the point that when they moved the ball, AR was calling his own plays (something Ben did in his playing career that Tomlin and Coaches tried to shut down -- I remember after the Eagles game Claypool said Ben was drawing plays up sandlot style and the coaches freak out). Ben harped on lack of half time adjustments which to him was all coaching.

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Post by anpsteel » Wed Dec 03, 2025 2:08 pm

zeke5123 wrote:
Wed Dec 03, 2025 2:02 pm
It's funny -- Ben is still being a bit political. You listen to his comments and the substantive remarks are all extremely critical of Tomlin without specifically calling out Tomlin yet he then is quick to add "he is a great coach" or "he is a HOFer."

But you can tell he thinks Tomlin doesn't hold people accountable, he believes Tomlin's schemes are wrong, and that Tomlin generally makes the wrong tactical decisions. Ben lays it all out. He makes the point that when you keep changing OCs but the offense looks the same, that maybe it isn't the OC. He made the point that when they moved the ball, AR was calling his own plays (something Ben did in his playing career that Tomlin and Coaches tried to shut down -- I remember after the Eagles game Claypool said Ben was drawing plays up sandlot style and the coaches freak out). Ben harped on lack of half time adjustments which to him was all coaching.
Everybody who’s been watching this team for the past 10 to 15 years, knows that once Todd Haley left, the only time the offense sustained any drives was when Ben went no huddle

The rest of the game they would struggle to get first downs. Almost every drive involved them having to overcome third and long. Always.


That is why we know what we are seeing today is not an isolated result of Arthur Smith. It’s a direct reflection upon the only individual who has been present throughout that time. Asshat Tomlin
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Post by zeke5123 » Wed Dec 03, 2025 2:16 pm

anpsteel wrote:
Wed Dec 03, 2025 2:08 pm
zeke5123 wrote:
Wed Dec 03, 2025 2:02 pm
It's funny -- Ben is still being a bit political. You listen to his comments and the substantive remarks are all extremely critical of Tomlin without specifically calling out Tomlin yet he then is quick to add "he is a great coach" or "he is a HOFer."

But you can tell he thinks Tomlin doesn't hold people accountable, he believes Tomlin's schemes are wrong, and that Tomlin generally makes the wrong tactical decisions. Ben lays it all out. He makes the point that when you keep changing OCs but the offense looks the same, that maybe it isn't the OC. He made the point that when they moved the ball, AR was calling his own plays (something Ben did in his playing career that Tomlin and Coaches tried to shut down -- I remember after the Eagles game Claypool said Ben was drawing plays up sandlot style and the coaches freak out). Ben harped on lack of half time adjustments which to him was all coaching.
Everybody who’s been watching this team for the past 10 to 15 years, knows that once Todd Haley left, the only time the offense sustained any drives was when Ben went no huddle

The rest of the game they would struggle to get first downs. Almost every drive involved them having to overcome third and long. Always.


That is why we know what we are seeing today is not an isolated result of Arthur Smith. It’s a direct reflection upon the only individual who has been present throughout that time. Asshat Tomlin
Agreed. And it is clear Ben knows that, and if you read between the lines you hear some of his frustration from his time playing.

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Post by CoolShades » Wed Dec 03, 2025 4:17 pm

zeke5123 wrote:
Wed Dec 03, 2025 2:02 pm
It's funny -- Ben is still being a bit political. You listen to his comments and the substantive remarks are all extremely critical of Tomlin without specifically calling out Tomlin yet he then is quick to add "he is a great coach" or "he is a HOFer."

But you can tell he thinks Tomlin doesn't hold people accountable, he believes Tomlin's schemes are wrong, and that Tomlin generally makes the wrong tactical decisions. Ben lays it all out. He makes the point that when you keep changing OCs but the offense looks the same, that maybe it isn't the OC. He made the point that when they moved the ball, AR was calling his own plays (something Ben did in his playing career that Tomlin and Coaches tried to shut down -- I remember after the Eagles game Claypool said Ben was drawing plays up sandlot style and the coaches freak out). Ben harped on lack of half time adjustments which to him was all coaching.

Ben is smart enough to know to play it very cool until he gets into Canton. He won’t openly criticize Saint Mike.

After he gets his jacket, I suspect Ben will open up on Tomlin. I find it almost impossible to believe he likes or respects Tomlin, at least from a football knowledge perspective. Unless there is something about their relationship we don’t know (maybe they go to the same church or something), no way Ben thinks Tomlin is a HOF Coach. No way.
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Post by anpsteel » Wed Dec 03, 2025 5:00 pm

CoolShades wrote:
Wed Dec 03, 2025 4:17 pm
zeke5123 wrote:
Wed Dec 03, 2025 2:02 pm
It's funny -- Ben is still being a bit political. You listen to his comments and the substantive remarks are all extremely critical of Tomlin without specifically calling out Tomlin yet he then is quick to add "he is a great coach" or "he is a HOFer."

But you can tell he thinks Tomlin doesn't hold people accountable, he believes Tomlin's schemes are wrong, and that Tomlin generally makes the wrong tactical decisions. Ben lays it all out. He makes the point that when you keep changing OCs but the offense looks the same, that maybe it isn't the OC. He made the point that when they moved the ball, AR was calling his own plays (something Ben did in his playing career that Tomlin and Coaches tried to shut down -- I remember after the Eagles game Claypool said Ben was drawing plays up sandlot style and the coaches freak out). Ben harped on lack of half time adjustments which to him was all coaching.

Ben is smart enough to know to play it very cool until he gets into Canton. He won’t openly criticize Saint Mike.

After he gets his jacket, I suspect Ben will open up on Tomlin. I find it almost impossible to believe he likes or respects Tomlin, at least from a football knowledge perspective. Unless there is something about their relationship we don’t know (maybe they go to the same church or something), no way Ben thinks Tomlin is a HOF Coach. No way.
Yeah, I wonder how many times Ben has had the conversation, “ how many more Super Bowls would you have won if you had a real coach?”
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Post by DumlinBumlinStumlin » Wed Dec 03, 2025 5:14 pm

zeke5123 wrote:
Wed Dec 03, 2025 2:02 pm
It's funny -- Ben is still being a bit political. You listen to his comments and the substantive remarks are all extremely critical of Tomlin without specifically calling out Tomlin yet he then is quick to add "he is a great coach" or "he is a HOFer."

But you can tell he thinks Tomlin doesn't hold people accountable, he believes Tomlin's schemes are wrong, and that Tomlin generally makes the wrong tactical decisions. Ben lays it all out. He makes the point that when you keep changing OCs but the offense looks the same, that maybe it isn't the OC. He made the point that when they moved the ball, AR was calling his own plays (something Ben did in his playing career that Tomlin and Coaches tried to shut down -- I remember after the Eagles game Claypool said Ben was drawing plays up sandlot style and the coaches freak out). Ben harped on lack of half time adjustments which to him was all coaching.
This !!

Everyone knows it’s a Tomlin problem and either know it and say it. Or is pretending not to know and give the political answer
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Post by StillerDownSouth » Wed Dec 03, 2025 5:41 pm

anpsteel wrote:
Wed Dec 03, 2025 2:08 pm
zeke5123 wrote:
Wed Dec 03, 2025 2:02 pm
It's funny -- Ben is still being a bit political. You listen to his comments and the substantive remarks are all extremely critical of Tomlin without specifically calling out Tomlin yet he then is quick to add "he is a great coach" or "he is a HOFer."

But you can tell he thinks Tomlin doesn't hold people accountable, he believes Tomlin's schemes are wrong, and that Tomlin generally makes the wrong tactical decisions. Ben lays it all out. He makes the point that when you keep changing OCs but the offense looks the same, that maybe it isn't the OC. He made the point that when they moved the ball, AR was calling his own plays (something Ben did in his playing career that Tomlin and Coaches tried to shut down -- I remember after the Eagles game Claypool said Ben was drawing plays up sandlot style and the coaches freak out). Ben harped on lack of half time adjustments which to him was all coaching.
Everybody who’s been watching this team for the past 10 to 15 years, knows that once Todd Haley left, the only time the offense sustained any drives was when Ben went no huddle

The rest of the game they would struggle to get first downs. Almost every drive involved them having to overcome third and long. Always.


That is why we know what we are seeing today is not an isolated result of Arthur Smith. It’s a direct reflection upon the only individual who has been present throughout that time. Asshat Tomlin

This is because Tomlin's entire offensive strategy has been and always will be to get to 3rd and manageable, never wants to score too fast, possess the ball, possession downs, all that BS he spews...I prefer the Payton Manning strategy of football which is 1st down 1st down, or 1st down 2nd down 1st down, basically make hay on the easiest down to gain yards which is 1st down....it's the strategy Cowher finally came to realize and got them a championship in '05...the Steeler offense is either mandated by Tomlin or ArtII, both are dipshits.

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Post by StillerDownSouth » Wed Dec 03, 2025 5:42 pm

anpsteel wrote:
Wed Dec 03, 2025 5:00 pm
CoolShades wrote:
Wed Dec 03, 2025 4:17 pm
zeke5123 wrote:
Wed Dec 03, 2025 2:02 pm
It's funny -- Ben is still being a bit political. You listen to his comments and the substantive remarks are all extremely critical of Tomlin without specifically calling out Tomlin yet he then is quick to add "he is a great coach" or "he is a HOFer."

But you can tell he thinks Tomlin doesn't hold people accountable, he believes Tomlin's schemes are wrong, and that Tomlin generally makes the wrong tactical decisions. Ben lays it all out. He makes the point that when you keep changing OCs but the offense looks the same, that maybe it isn't the OC. He made the point that when they moved the ball, AR was calling his own plays (something Ben did in his playing career that Tomlin and Coaches tried to shut down -- I remember after the Eagles game Claypool said Ben was drawing plays up sandlot style and the coaches freak out). Ben harped on lack of half time adjustments which to him was all coaching.

Ben is smart enough to know to play it very cool until he gets into Canton. He won’t openly criticize Saint Mike.

After he gets his jacket, I suspect Ben will open up on Tomlin. I find it almost impossible to believe he likes or respects Tomlin, at least from a football knowledge perspective. Unless there is something about their relationship we don’t know (maybe they go to the same church or something), no way Ben thinks Tomlin is a HOF Coach. No way.
Yeah, I wonder how many times Ben has had the conversation, “ how many more Super Bowls would you have won if you had a real coach?”

If I ever get a chance to meet Ben in person, this would be the 1st question I would ask him.

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Post by Ice » Wed Dec 03, 2025 5:44 pm

Steeldrama wrote:
Wed Dec 03, 2025 12:03 pm
If there is a God, PLEASE OH PLEASE send Tomlin to Penn State!

THAT

Would be AWESOME!
Wow, after a decade plus of being told "we have a Tomlin at home," their fans would finally get to experience the real thing!
Nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile...

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Post by shellwagnerblount » Wed Dec 03, 2025 9:19 pm

anpsteel wrote:
Wed Dec 03, 2025 2:08 pm
zeke5123 wrote:
Wed Dec 03, 2025 2:02 pm
It's funny -- Ben is still being a bit political. You listen to his comments and the substantive remarks are all extremely critical of Tomlin without specifically calling out Tomlin yet he then is quick to add "he is a great coach" or "he is a HOFer."

But you can tell he thinks Tomlin doesn't hold people accountable, he believes Tomlin's schemes are wrong, and that Tomlin generally makes the wrong tactical decisions. Ben lays it all out. He makes the point that when you keep changing OCs but the offense looks the same, that maybe it isn't the OC. He made the point that when they moved the ball, AR was calling his own plays (something Ben did in his playing career that Tomlin and Coaches tried to shut down -- I remember after the Eagles game Claypool said Ben was drawing plays up sandlot style and the coaches freak out). Ben harped on lack of half time adjustments which to him was all coaching.
Everybody who’s been watching this team for the past 10 to 15 years, knows that once Todd Haley left, the only time the offense sustained any drives was when Ben went no huddle

The rest of the game they would struggle to get first downs. Almost every drive involved them having to overcome third and long. Always.


That is why we know what we are seeing today is not an isolated result of Arthur Smith. It’s a direct reflection upon the only individual who has been present throughout that time. Asshat Tomlin
Amen....

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Post by .Kodiak » Wed Dec 03, 2025 11:46 pm

I always thought Ben would be an interesting OC. I wonder if the football juices are starting to flow again?

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Post by DumlinBumlinStumlin » Thu Dec 04, 2025 1:38 am

shellwagnerblount wrote:
Wed Dec 03, 2025 9:19 pm
anpsteel wrote:
Wed Dec 03, 2025 2:08 pm
zeke5123 wrote:
Wed Dec 03, 2025 2:02 pm
It's funny -- Ben is still being a bit political. You listen to his comments and the substantive remarks are all extremely critical of Tomlin without specifically calling out Tomlin yet he then is quick to add "he is a great coach" or "he is a HOFer."

But you can tell he thinks Tomlin doesn't hold people accountable, he believes Tomlin's schemes are wrong, and that Tomlin generally makes the wrong tactical decisions. Ben lays it all out. He makes the point that when you keep changing OCs but the offense looks the same, that maybe it isn't the OC. He made the point that when they moved the ball, AR was calling his own plays (something Ben did in his playing career that Tomlin and Coaches tried to shut down -- I remember after the Eagles game Claypool said Ben was drawing plays up sandlot style and the coaches freak out). Ben harped on lack of half time adjustments which to him was all coaching.
Everybody who’s been watching this team for the past 10 to 15 years, knows that once Todd Haley left, the only time the offense sustained any drives was when Ben went no huddle

The rest of the game they would struggle to get first downs. Almost every drive involved them having to overcome third and long. Always.


That is why we know what we are seeing today is not an isolated result of Arthur Smith. It’s a direct reflection upon the only individual who has been present throughout that time. Asshat Tomlin
Amen....
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Post by langer » Thu Dec 04, 2025 2:39 am

What if everywhere he went he was greeted with FIRE TOMLIN chants after about four games?
"We, as an offensive collective were off today, and certainly, he's a component of that,"

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Post by Gonzo » Thu Dec 04, 2025 3:01 am

StillerDownSouth wrote:
Wed Dec 03, 2025 5:41 pm
anpsteel wrote:
Wed Dec 03, 2025 2:08 pm
zeke5123 wrote:
Wed Dec 03, 2025 2:02 pm
It's funny -- Ben is still being a bit political. You listen to his comments and the substantive remarks are all extremely critical of Tomlin without specifically calling out Tomlin yet he then is quick to add "he is a great coach" or "he is a HOFer."

But you can tell he thinks Tomlin doesn't hold people accountable, he believes Tomlin's schemes are wrong, and that Tomlin generally makes the wrong tactical decisions. Ben lays it all out. He makes the point that when you keep changing OCs but the offense looks the same, that maybe it isn't the OC. He made the point that when they moved the ball, AR was calling his own plays (something Ben did in his playing career that Tomlin and Coaches tried to shut down -- I remember after the Eagles game Claypool said Ben was drawing plays up sandlot style and the coaches freak out). Ben harped on lack of half time adjustments which to him was all coaching.
Everybody who’s been watching this team for the past 10 to 15 years, knows that once Todd Haley left, the only time the offense sustained any drives was when Ben went no huddle

The rest of the game they would struggle to get first downs. Almost every drive involved them having to overcome third and long. Always.


That is why we know what we are seeing today is not an isolated result of Arthur Smith. It’s a direct reflection upon the only individual who has been present throughout that time. Asshat Tomlin

This is because Tomlin's entire offensive strategy has been and always will be to get to 3rd and manageable, never wants to score too fast, possess the ball, possession downs, all that BS he spews...I prefer the Payton Manning strategy of football which is 1st down 1st down, or 1st down 2nd down 1st down, basically make hay on the easiest down to gain yards which is 1st down....it's the strategy Cowher finally came to realize and got them a championship in '05...the Steeler offense is either mandated by Tomlin or ArtII, both are dipshits.
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Post by Havoc » Thu Dec 04, 2025 5:56 am

Saw a clip of Ben saying Tomlin deserves a statue

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

That's Ben putting up a shield.
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Post by CKSteeler » Thu Dec 04, 2025 6:37 am

Havoc wrote:
Thu Dec 04, 2025 5:56 am
Saw a clip of Ben saying Tomlin deserves a statue

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

That's Ben putting up a shield.
Eh...he was basically saying they have to get rid of him or that it's time for him to move on, but that they can give him a statue or whatever to soothe his ego.

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Post by langer » Thu Dec 04, 2025 9:51 am

They should really celebrate him by removing the fountain down at the point, including all remnants of Fort Pitt, and erect a 100 story statue of Coach T.
"We, as an offensive collective were off today, and certainly, he's a component of that,"

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