Steelers and "The Fellowship of the Miserable"

[swissvale72]

I look forward to Swiss's next installment of this series after the Texans beatdown the Steelers 31-0 in a week.

I'll be here… And regardless of the outcome I'll be calling bullshit on the same delusional beliefs that you haters hold dear.... that somehow the douche bag art II is going to be swayed by fans, booing and chanting and asshats posting on a message b being all bent outta shape and taking it personal that the coach blows a kiss for the camera.

Say whatever you need to yourself to pick up the pom-poms, but the Canada situation proves the Rooneys can be swayed by massive, vocal fan discontent. Tomlin was clearly feeling the pressure. If this team doesn't go on a run this post season- and they almost certainly won't- then this win was a catastrophe for Steelers fans.

Ummm....all due respect....tomlin's not Canada....not in the same fuckin universe as far as Rooney is concerned

[W&M_Steeler]

I'll be here… And regardless of the outcome I'll be calling bullshit on the same delusional beliefs that you haters hold dear.... that somehow the douche bag art II is going to be swayed by fans, booing and chanting and asshats posting on a message b being all bent outta shape and taking it personal that the coach blows a kiss for the camera.

Say whatever you need to yourself to pick up the pom-poms, but the Canada situation proves the Rooneys can be swayed by massive, vocal fan discontent. Tomlin was clearly feeling the pressure. If this team doesn't go on a run this post season- and they almost certainly won't- then this win was a catastrophe for Steelers fans.

Ummm....all due respect....tomlin's not Canada....not in the same fuckin universe as far as Rooney is concerned

Tomlin certainly gets more deference than Canada, but the Canada situation showed that Art 2 can be moved into taking action the Steelers haven't taken since the 1940s if the situation became dire enough. A Steelers collapse to miss the playoffs might have done the trick. The media- national and local- were scrutinizing Tomlin like never before. The fans were embarrassing ownership in national games. A decison on extension has to be made on Tomlin within the next few weeks. Tomlin was feeling the pressure. This was the chance.

So of course Hamilton gets injured and a rookie kicker shanks a game winner to save Tomlin's job. I get it- you just can't bring yourself to root against the Steelers even if it's SBI in the long term. But this one win was not worth it to objective fans.

[Havoc]

Swiss' "safer than the pope" coping mechanism is bullshit.

Yes it is

[CKSteeler]

Swiss fails to connect that he recognizes that Art II is a spineless coward or something similar however he'd phrase it, but then thinks he'd hold up to Fire Tomlin chants and boo's on national TV every week?

I think that is what it would have taken. Don't think the collapse and media criticism would have been enough. At least not this year. But a full fan revolt can achieve it. But too many people at the game want to have hope. Like Swiss.

[W&M_Steeler]

Swiss fails to connect that he recognizes that Art II is a spineless coward or something similar however he'd phrase it, but then thinks he'd hold up to Fire Tomlin chants and boo's on national TV every week?

I think that is what it would have taken. Don't think the collapse and media criticism would have been enough. At least not this year. But a full fan revolt can achieve it. But too many people at the game want to have hope. Like Swiss.

It's a psychological coping mechanism to reconcile never wanting to see the Steelers lose with knowing Tomlin needs to go. If you convince yourself that Art 2 will never fire Tomlin no matter what, then you never have to face the fact that losing is the best short term result and you therefore never have to root for losses. So he'll just deny any evidence that Art 2 might be swayed by fans discontent.

[CKSteeler]

What really sucks is the cost of preserving NHALS this year was literally taking them even further from a championship than ever. You look at this roster and it's just a mess in terms of the future. Your blue chip players right now are Heyward and Boswell and I don't need to spell out the issues with either one.

You have 2-3 young guys on the lines who have shown the ability to develop into something. That's it.

[swissvale72]

Say whatever you need to yourself to pick up the pom-poms, but the Canada situation proves the Rooneys can be swayed by massive, vocal fan discontent. Tomlin was clearly feeling the pressure. If this team doesn't go on a run this post season- and they almost certainly won't- then this win was a catastrophe for Steelers fans.

Ummm....all due respect....tomlin's not Canada....not in the same fuckin universe as far as Rooney is concerned

Tomlin certainly gets more deference than Canada, but the Canada situation showed that Art 2 can be moved into taking action the Steelers haven't taken since the 1940s if the situation became dire enough. A Steelers collapse to miss the playoffs might have done the trick. The media- national and local- were scrutinizing Tomlin like never before. The fans were embarrassing ownership in national games. A decison on extension has to be made on Tomlin within the next few weeks. Tomlin was feeling the pressure. This was the chance.

So of course Hamilton gets injured and a rookie kicker shanks a game winner to save Tomlin's job. I get it- you just can't bring yourself to root against the Steelers even if it's SBI in the long term. But this one win was not worth it to objective fans.

And your evidence that Rooney would be responsive to boos and shit is that they fired Matt fucking Canada?? Like who the fuck ever heard of Matt Canada before he was brought the Pittsburgh. That's laughable

[Greeksteel]

I'm happy as fuck the Steelers won last night!!

And yes, the Steelers were lucky as fuck to have done so, their good fortune perhaps partially attributable to Justin Tucker and his penchant for happy endings at Baltimore area message parlors:

And yes; Mike Tomlin remains game day dumbfuck, best exemplified by his handing the ravens three points by going for a 4th down and 2 from his own 40, and signing off on a play designed to pick up 1 yard.

But I'm a Steeler fan, have been for 60 years and I root for my team to win, to extend their season, and will embrace the anticipation of a playoff game at Acrisure next Monday night.

Now....about the asshats that populate this esteemed website. Last week I made reference to Rick Pitino's short tenure as Boston Celtics head coach and his dubbing Boston sports radio hosts and callers "The Fellowship of the Miserable." Well, that's what Steeler Fury has become, particularly the game day thread, which I read completely postgame last night. The site has been dominated by the delusional thinking that a loss last night, or perhaps even next week, would result in Mike Tomlin's exit from the Steelers sideline. Had you asshats listened to me, one who's been promoting Tomlin's exit for a dozen years, you would know that Mike Tomlin ain't going nowhere until Mike Tomlin wants to, enjoying job security on par with Pope Leo.

And...the vitriol with Tomlin blowing victory kisses to the camera. You asshats were losing your "collective" (a Tomlinism) over this. Like what the actual fuck?? Why do yinz care so much about that??

I'll close where I started....happy as fuck that we one such a compelling game, a fuckin classic...acknowledging that Steelers had holes in their secondary on par with the Grand Canyon. Can't wait to see the ESPN shows tomorrow and throughout the week, and wayyyy excited about next monday night when The Fellowship of the Miserable will certainly be demonstrating their angst once again,

Speaking just for myself Swiss and likely most of the posters that want Tomlin to go away...I am under no illusions that Rooney will fire him, as you correctly point out Tomlin aint going anywhere unless Tomlin wants to leave. But maybe just maybe a loss last night or an embarassing loss next week coupled with the boos and jeers from the crowd at Accrisure and the fans in and around Pittsburgh could make him uncomfortable enough to actually maybe consider a fresh reset with a different team or a tv gig as has been reported.

[W&M_Steeler]

Ummm....all due respect....tomlin's not Canada....not in the same fuckin universe as far as Rooney is concerned

Tomlin certainly gets more deference than Canada, but the Canada situation showed that Art 2 can be moved into taking action the Steelers haven't taken since the 1940s if the situation became dire enough. A Steelers collapse to miss the playoffs might have done the trick. The media- national and local- were scrutinizing Tomlin like never before. The fans were embarrassing ownership in national games. A decison on extension has to be made on Tomlin within the next few weeks. Tomlin was feeling the pressure. This was the chance.

So of course Hamilton gets injured and a rookie kicker shanks a game winner to save Tomlin's job. I get it- you just can't bring yourself to root against the Steelers even if it's SBI in the long term. But this one win was not worth it to objective fans.

And your evidence that Rooney would be responsive to boos and shit is that they fired Matt fucking Canada?? Like who the fuck ever heard of Matt Canada before he was brought the Pittsburgh. That's laughable

The point is Rooney and Steelers upper management were pressured by the fans into doing something they hadn't done for almost 80 years. It's silly to argue that there's no amount of losing that could result in Tomlin getting fired. They'd can him if he started to have 0-17 seasons, don't you agree? The real question is, where is the line? I think fan and media behavior is a good indicator of where that line might be. I think that we were getting close to that line before last night's win. The fans and media were getting loud and restless. But they won a close, exciting game against the Ravens to clich the division, so now all is forgiven. I think Tomlin's post-game display showed his relief. He knows he saved his own ass last night.

You don't ever want to root against the Steelers no matter what, and that's your prerogative. I just think your stated rationalization justifying never rooting for losses is total bullshit cope.

[Steelafan77]

Tomlin certainly gets more deference than Canada, but the Canada situation showed that Art 2 can be moved into taking action the Steelers haven't taken since the 1940s if the situation became dire enough. A Steelers collapse to miss the playoffs might have done the trick. The media- national and local- were scrutinizing Tomlin like never before. The fans were embarrassing ownership in national games. A decison on extension has to be made on Tomlin within the next few weeks. Tomlin was feeling the pressure. This was the chance.

So of course Hamilton gets injured and a rookie kicker shanks a game winner to save Tomlin's job. I get it- you just can't bring yourself to root against the Steelers even if it's SBI in the long term. But this one win was not worth it to objective fans.

And your evidence that Rooney would be responsive to boos and shit is that they fired Matt fucking Canada?? Like who the fuck ever heard of Matt Canada before he was brought the Pittsburgh. That's laughable

The point is Rooney and Steelers upper management were pressured by the fans into doing something they hadn't done for almost 80 years. It's silly to argue that there's no amount of losing that could result in Tomlin getting fired. They'd can him if he started to have 0-17 seasons, don't you agree? The real question is, where is the line? I think fan and media behavior is a good indicator of where that line might be. I think that we were getting close to that line before last night's win. The fans and media were getting loud and restless. But they won a close, exciting game against the Ravens to clich the division, FOR now all is forgiven. I think Tomlin's post-game display showed his relief. He knows he saved his own ass last night.

You don't ever want to root against the Steelers no matter what, and that's your prerogative. I just think your stated rationalization justifying never rooting for losses is total bullshit cope.

Fixed it for you.

[W&M_Steeler]

And your evidence that Rooney would be responsive to boos and shit is that they fired Matt fucking Canada?? Like who the fuck ever heard of Matt Canada before he was brought the Pittsburgh. That's laughable

The point is Rooney and Steelers upper management were pressured by the fans into doing something they hadn't done for almost 80 years. It's silly to argue that there's no amount of losing that could result in Tomlin getting fired. They'd can him if he started to have 0-17 seasons, don't you agree? The real question is, where is the line? I think fan and media behavior is a good indicator of where that line might be. I think that we were getting close to that line before last night's win. The fans and media were getting loud and restless. But they won a close, exciting game against the Ravens to clich the division, FOR now all is forgiven. I think Tomlin's post-game display showed his relief. He knows he saved his own ass last night.

You don't ever want to root against the Steelers no matter what, and that's your prerogative. I just think your stated rationalization justifying never rooting for losses is total bullshit cope.

Fixed it for you.

You're right. The pressure will build up again after several more years of futility, but he definitely won himself a near-term reprieve. Swiss doesn't believe that to be the case (or says he doesn't) because he wants an excuse to keep rooting for the Steelers even when Steelers wins aren't SBI.

[swissvale72]

The point is Rooney and Steelers upper management were pressured by the fans into doing something they hadn't done for almost 80 years. It's silly to argue that there's no amount of losing that could result in Tomlin getting fired. They'd can him if he started to have 0-17 seasons, don't you agree? The real question is, where is the line? I think fan and media behavior is a good indicator of where that line might be. I think that we were getting close to that line before last night's win. The fans and media were getting loud and restless. But they won a close, exciting game against the Ravens to clich the division, FOR now all is forgiven. I think Tomlin's post-game display showed his relief. He knows he saved his own ass last night.

You don't ever want to root against the Steelers no matter what, and that's your prerogative. I just think your stated rationalization justifying never rooting for losses is total bullshit cope.

Fixed it for you.

You're right. The pressure will build up again after several more years of futility, but he definitely won himself a near-term reprieve. Swiss doesn't believe that to be the case (or says he doesn't) because he wants an excuse to keep rooting for the Steelers even when Steelers wins aren't SBI.

What a preposterous notion… Absolutely ridiculous… That I need a… Excuse… To root for the team of which I'm a fan to win football games

And meanwhile… The only evidence you can offer that Rooney would part ways with Mike Tomlin is premised on Matt Canada? lol O L.

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

In the past week or so 1 of the local radio guys here made the statement on the subject of the Dallas Mavericks, "STILL every time we think of the Luka Doncic trade we throw up"...

Sports should be fun.

Yeah I still throw up at the 19 year shoe salesman prior to becoming the Mavericks GM (GM because the most overrated owner in sports history Mark Cuban hired him pushing out a legit basketball GM in the process). I said at the time it was an asinine hire. I was right.

For those who don't know, the most overrated owner in sports history Mark Cuban then sold the team to a Vegas gambling family who had ZERO knowledge of sports.

New in over his head owner with future gambling interests in Texas that's why they bought the team who had ZERO clue what he was doing trusted his 19 year former shoe salesman GM AND with no checks and balances.

It was and is the most shocking trade in NBA history. All things considered it is unprecedented. Cooper Flagg who the Mavs were gifted in the lottery ain't Luka and probably never will be. If the lottery and Cooper didn't fall to the Mavs that whole place would be nothing but smoldering remains (except for a few brain dead enabler fans). The Cooper Flagg Scotty Pippen comps don't move me in this situation. That's not good enough. That's a Robin Player.

I dropped the Dallas Mavericks.

On to the Steelers...

The Pittsburgh Steelers are no longer fun for me.

I no longer believe in the Pittsburgh Steelers as an organization. Don't like who they are. Don't like what they've become. I know too much. And I can discern.

Sports should be fun. I have a busy life with responsibilities and a lot of other interests.

Oh, and Dallas Mavericks fans got Nico Harrison fired and I'm proud of them.

Great post Havoc. Wonderful backstory about the Mavs, Cuban and his stupid vision

it all parallels with PBGH and what is happening here

[955876]

And...the vitriol with Tomlin blowing victory kisses to the camera. You asshats were losing your "collective" (a Tomlinism) over this. Like what the actual fuck?? Why do yinz care so much about that??

Those are for you. He loves you long time.

We care because he has a very bad habit of peacocking without actually accomplishing anything yet.

Yay we got lucky and squeaked into the playoffs again. How will those blown kisses sit with you if we get blown off the field next week?

Also, did you see him on the sideline last night jibbin, jiving, and puffing his chest out BEFORE the game was won? We all knew 55 seconds was too much time to give them but he had already thought the game was wrapped up.

Then Boz misses his kick.

Then Jibbs gets lucky when their kicker misses his kick.

Tomlin is not focused or detail oriented. Why he is such a gameday fuck-up.

He should be thanking his lucky stars and displaying some humility for a man that hasn’t won a playoff game in damn near a decade.

But that isn’t Jibbs. Nope. He needs to peacock, puff his chest, and blow kisses.

We will end up where we always do while he will continue to deliver what he always does.

Yay.

A real coach knows the mission wasn’t accomplished last night.

Don’t be surprised if we come out flat next week. And if by some chance we manage a win against Houston, I can GUARANTEE you they will come out flat in the divisional round as these clowns will celebrate that WC win like they just won back to back SBs.

[lifelongsteel]

I enjoyed the game. I don't get the argument that the Steelers were lucky. Down in and down out they were the better team. Ravens did have 4-5 really big plays, a couple of them were pure Lamar hero ball types of plays. I think losing would have been unlucky.

They play that game tomorrow and the Steelers likely win again.

And, it's nice to have a playoff game a) at home and b) with a fairly even QB matchup. Their last 3 playoff games were:
- 40 yr old Ben at Mahomes (with no offensive line)
- Rudolph at Allen
- Wilson at Lamar

Let's just hope Frazier doesn't send the first snap over Rodgers' head and into the end zone.

[955876]

What really sucks is the cost of preserving NHALS this year was literally taking them even further from a championship than ever. You look at this roster and it's just a mess in terms of the future. Your blue chip players right now are Heyward and Boswell and I don't need to spell out the issues with either one.

You have 2-3 young guys on the lines who have shown the ability to develop into something. That's it.

Meanwhile, we take guys with premium picks then bury them on the depth chart for absolute fucking JAGS.

Roman Wilson should have been getting snaps instead of bringing in MVS.

Caleb Johnson should have never been drafted. We needed a WR BADLY, knew we needed a WR BADLY, then proceeded to waste a 3rd rounder on a RB that wasn’t going to play over Warren (stud BTW) and Gainwell (great FA signing).

We would have been fine (and likely even better) if Lew Nichols or the other guy we put on the practice squad was the 3rd back.

Total waste of roster spots. A key standard to a Jibba Jabber team.

Lew Nichols is a violent runner. Nice to have when you need a yard or two in a big moment. Duh.

[W&M_Steeler]

Fixed it for you.

You're right. The pressure will build up again after several more years of futility, but he definitely won himself a near-term reprieve. Swiss doesn't believe that to be the case (or says he doesn't) because he wants an excuse to keep rooting for the Steelers even when Steelers wins aren't SBI.

What a preposterous notion… Absolutely ridiculous… That I need a… Excuse… To root for the team of which I'm a fan to win football games

I agree, which is why I think you should drop the "safer than the pope" shtick and just say you'll always root for the Steelers to win every single game no matter the long term consequences, even if a win would save Tomlin's job. That would be more honest.

My Fandom prioritizes the long term over the short term, so I simply see things differently than you. I think sometimes losing a game results in better longterm outcomes than winning a game, and I root accordingly. But I don't really care if you feel compelled to always root for a win, consequences be damned. But you started a thread calling out people who see things differently than you, to which I am responding.

[Gonzo]

I am not here to defend Tomlin or pray for his sudden re-birth as a Real Coach
and I expect steady freddy MT to show up next week with the same old Plan
Only here to comment on what I think is a very odd criticism of him and pointless, but perhaps one that shows Why modern players may like him

Come on, out with it. Don't beat around the bush.

I didnt -- proper tomlin bashing is done a disservice when it lumbers into the absurd
posting a video of him dancing with players and blowing kisses after a victory and comparing that to the behavior of Noll et al is silly

[swissvale72]

You're right. The pressure will build up again after several more years of futility, but he definitely won himself a near-term reprieve. Swiss doesn't believe that to be the case (or says he doesn't) because he wants an excuse to keep rooting for the Steelers even when Steelers wins aren't SBI.

What a preposterous notion… Absolutely ridiculous… That I need a… Excuse… To root for the team of which I'm a fan to win football games

I agree, which is why I think you should drop the "safer than the pope" shtick and just say you'll always root for the Steelers to win every single game no matter the long term consequences, even if a win would save Tomlin's job. That would be more honest.

My Fandom prioritizes the long term over the short term, so I simply see things differently than you. I think sometimes losing a game results in better longterm outcomes than winning a game, and I root accordingly. But I don't really care if you feel compelled to always root for a win, consequences be damned. But you started a thread calling out people who see things differently than you, to which I am responding.

I don't know… His tenure is longer than most popes, in the position I take that Mike Tomlin ain't going nowhere until Mike Tom wants to hasn't been disproven. With this site has turned into though as a majority of so-called fans rooting for losses in calling out those of us who wrote for wins… Makes little sense

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

Fixed it for you.

You're right. The pressure will build up again after several more years of futility, but he definitely won himself a near-term reprieve. Swiss doesn't believe that to be the case (or says he doesn't) because he wants an excuse to keep rooting for the Steelers even when Steelers wins aren't SBI.

What a preposterous notion… Absolutely ridiculous… That I need a… Excuse… To root for the team of which I'm a fan to win football games

And meanwhile… The only evidence you can offer that Rooney would part ways with Mike Tomlin is premised on Matt Canada? lol O L.

Swiss, you avoided answering my question about giving me a case where a coach could determine when he would leave, bypassing the owners power? There hasn't been one, with the exception of resigning on own volition over health, family, or satisfaction.

The coach has no power to determine his own fate. Art can wake up tomorrow or in a month and tell Tomlin, it's time to make a change. But it's the owner doing the action, not the other way around. Life doesn't work like this.

So we do have a Truce temporarily which the playoffs commence

[W&M_Steeler]

What a preposterous notion… Absolutely ridiculous… That I need a… Excuse… To root for the team of which I'm a fan to win football games

I agree, which is why I think you should drop the "safer than the pope" shtick and just say you'll always root for the Steelers to win every single game no matter the long term consequences, even if a win would save Tomlin's job. That would be more honest.

My Fandom prioritizes the long term over the short term, so I simply see things differently than you. I think sometimes losing a game results in better longterm outcomes than winning a game, and I root accordingly. But I don't really care if you feel compelled to always root for a win, consequences be damned. But you started a thread calling out people who see things differently than you, to which I am responding.

I don't know… His tenure is longer than most popes, in the position I take that Mike Tomlin ain't going nowhere until Mike Tom wants to hasn't been disproven. With this site has turned into though as a majority of so-called fans rooting for losses in calling out those of us who wrote for wins… Makes little sense

You should check out the Steelers Reddit page, it's full of blindly loyal rah-rahs who couldn't imagine ever being critical of anything the Steelers ever do. Maybe you'd like it better, since you apparently don't like us "so-called" fans who criticize the Steelers anymore.

[W&M_Steeler]

You're right. The pressure will build up again after several more years of futility, but he definitely won himself a near-term reprieve. Swiss doesn't believe that to be the case (or says he doesn't) because he wants an excuse to keep rooting for the Steelers even when Steelers wins aren't SBI.

What a preposterous notion… Absolutely ridiculous… That I need a… Excuse… To root for the team of which I'm a fan to win football games

And meanwhile… The only evidence you can offer that Rooney would part ways with Mike Tomlin is premised on Matt Canada? lol O L.

Swiss, you avoided answering my question about giving me a case where a coach could determine when he would leave, bypassing the owners power? There hasn't been one, with the exception of resigning on own volition over health, family, or satisfaction.

The coach has no power to determine his own fate. Art can wake up tomorrow or in a month and tell Tomlin, it's time to make a change. But it's the owner doing the action, not the other way around. Life doesn't work like this.

So we do have a Truce temporarily which the playoffs commence

Swiss won't even admit that Rooney would fire Tomlin after a few 0-17 seasons, so I don't think you'll get any concessions from him.

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

What a preposterous notion… Absolutely ridiculous… That I need a… Excuse… To root for the team of which I'm a fan to win football games

And meanwhile… The only evidence you can offer that Rooney would part ways with Mike Tomlin is premised on Matt Canada? lol O L.

Swiss, you avoided answering my question about giving me a case where a coach could determine when he would leave, bypassing the owners power? There hasn't been one, with the exception of resigning on own volition over health, family, or satisfaction.

The coach has no power to determine his own fate. Art can wake up tomorrow or in a month and tell Tomlin, it's time to make a change. But it's the owner doing the action, not the other way around. Life doesn't work like this.

So we do have a Truce temporarily which the playoffs commence

Swiss won't even admit that Rooney would fire Tomlin after a few 0-17 seasons, so I don't think you'll get any concessions from him.

he avoided this answer because i cornered him with what is reality vs pretend. HIs diatribe is steeped in pretending, it's pie in the sky strawman

[W&M_Steeler]

Swiss, you avoided answering my question about giving me a case where a coach could determine when he would leave, bypassing the owners power? There hasn't been one, with the exception of resigning on own volition over health, family, or satisfaction.

The coach has no power to determine his own fate. Art can wake up tomorrow or in a month and tell Tomlin, it's time to make a change. But it's the owner doing the action, not the other way around. Life doesn't work like this.

So we do have a Truce temporarily which the playoffs commence

Swiss won't even admit that Rooney would fire Tomlin after a few 0-17 seasons, so I don't think you'll get any concessions from him.

he avoided this answer because i cornered him with what is reality vs pretend. HIs diatribe is steeped in pretending, it's pie in the sky strawman

He's an old guy, set in his ways. I don't begrudge him of his position, I think it's a generational thing. My dad is of a similar mindset and doesn't understand rooting for losses, and Swiss is even older than him. Gen X is more critical and cynical than Swiss' generational, so I think the idea of sometimes rooting for losses for long-term success makes more sense to us.

But it's annoying when Swiss comes and tries to shit talk about being a "real true fan" because of his position.

[6Trophies]

And...the vitriol with Tomlin blowing victory kisses to the camera. You asshats were losing your "collective" (a Tomlinism) over this. Like what the actual fuck?? Why do yinz care so much about that??

Those are for you. He loves you long time.

We care because he has a very bad habit of peacocking without actually accomplishing anything yet.

Yay we got lucky and squeaked into the playoffs again. How will those blown kisses sit with you if we get blown off the field next week?

Also, did you see him on the sideline last night jibbin, jiving, and puffing his chest out BEFORE the game was won? We all knew 55 seconds was too much time to give them but he had already thought the game was wrapped up.

Then Boz misses his kick.

Then Jibbs gets lucky when their kicker misses his kick.

Tomlin is not focused or detail oriented. Why he is such a gameday fuck-up.

He should be thanking his lucky stars and displaying some humility for a man that hasn’t won a playoff game in damn near a decade.

But that isn’t Jibbs. Nope. He needs to peacock, puff his chest, and blow kisses.

We will end up where we always do while he will continue to deliver what he always does.

Yay.

A real coach knows the mission wasn’t accomplished last night.

Don’t be surprised if we come out flat next week. And if by some chance we manage a win against Houston, I can GUARANTEE you they will come out flat in the divisional round as these clowns will celebrate that WC win like they just won back to back SBs.

Don't forget clock "management" and having ZERO timeouts at the end of the 4th quarter!

[shellwagnerblount]

On to the Steelers...

The Pittsburgh Steelers are no longer fun for me.

I no longer believe in the Pittsburgh Steelers as a franchise. Don't like who they are. Don't like what they've become. I know too much. And I can discern.

Sports should be fun. I have a busy life with responsibilities and a lot of other interests.

Oh, and Dallas Mavericks fans got Nico Harrison fired and I'm proud of them.

This is where a lot of us are. The Tomlin sycophants and enablers love their Mediocre Mike over and above anything else, and will praise NHALS because that’s all they have.

They all know Tomlin’s a fraud. There is no difference between Tomlin and Barry Switzer, except Switzer was smart enough to “resign” as coach after a 6 - 10 season. No one thinks Barry won that Super Bowl with his players, because he didn’t. Just like Tomlin, except Tomlin has an owner that has a rule named after him, and he refuses to resign. He has zero pressure from the owner, and his mediocrity is rewarded with $16+ million a year. He has Rooney and the Steelers by the DEI balls.

Read this on Wikipedia about Switzer: “Switzer's penchant for being a players' coach came to haunt him with disagreements with quarterback Troy Aikman, who felt the team had a lack of discipline along with poor practice habits.“

“A lack of discipline with poor practice habits.” Sounds very familiar.

Yes it does. There's a clip of Aikman going off on Switzer and Co. on the sidelines of a live game. I can't remember where I saw it but it was probably one of those NFLN "A Football Life" things.

[6Trophies]

The world is filled with unqualified people who didn't earn what they have because it was handed to them when they were born into the family.

Hey Art, this one's for you...

[swissvale72]

I agree, which is why I think you should drop the "safer than the pope" shtick and just say you'll always root for the Steelers to win every single game no matter the long term consequences, even if a win would save Tomlin's job. That would be more honest.

My Fandom prioritizes the long term over the short term, so I simply see things differently than you. I think sometimes losing a game results in better longterm outcomes than winning a game, and I root accordingly. But I don't really care if you feel compelled to always root for a win, consequences be damned. But you started a thread calling out people who see things differently than you, to which I am responding.

I don't know… His tenure is longer than most popes, in the position I take that Mike Tomlin ain't going nowhere until Mike Tom wants to hasn't been disproven. With this site has turned into though as a majority of so-called fans rooting for losses in calling out those of us who wrote for wins… Makes little sense

You should check out the Steelers Reddit page, it's full of blindly loyal rah-rahs who couldn't imagine ever being critical of anything the Steelers ever do. Maybe you'd like it better, since you apparently don't like us "so-called" fans who criticize the Steelers anymore.

Maybe you should start a site for Steeler haters

[swissvale72]

Swiss, you avoided answering my question about giving me a case where a coach could determine when he would leave, bypassing the owners power? There hasn't been one, with the exception of resigning on own volition over health, family, or satisfaction.

The coach has no power to determine his own fate. Art can wake up tomorrow or in a month and tell Tomlin, it's time to make a change. But it's the owner doing the action, not the other way around. Life doesn't work like this.

So we do have a Truce temporarily which the playoffs commence

Swiss won't even admit that Rooney would fire Tomlin after a few 0-17 seasons, so I don't think you'll get any concessions from him.

he avoided this answer because i cornered him with what is reality vs pretend. HIs diatribe is steeped in pretending, it's pie in the sky strawman

Right… You cornered me with this ridiculous scenario where they would be consecutive zero and 17 seasons. Fine I guess if that happened which it won't, then Tomlin wouldn't last. You're suggesting though that his first losing season or not making the playoffs or another playoff loss is going to get him fired. Got news it won't.

[swissvale72]

Swiss won't even admit that Rooney would fire Tomlin after a few 0-17 seasons, so I don't think you'll get any concessions from him.

he avoided this answer because i cornered him with what is reality vs pretend. HIs diatribe is steeped in pretending, it's pie in the sky strawman

He's an old guy, set in his ways. I don't begrudge him of his position, I think it's a generational thing. My dad is of a similar mindset and doesn't understand rooting for losses, and Swiss is even older than him. Gen X is more critical and cynical than Swiss' generational, so I think the idea of sometimes rooting for losses for long-term success makes more sense to us.

But it's annoying when Swiss comes and tries to shit talk about being a "real true fan" because of his position.

Sure… Old guy set his ways, who roots for his team to win. What a novel position to take.