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Post by shellwagnerblount » Tue Jan 13, 2026 9:36 pm

I had to turn Carnell Lake off..lol..I get that they love the guy and he was probably a great HC to deal with on a personal level. All good. But they repeat the same media talking points and ignore the playoff record. "They'll find him hard to replace" "NHALS" "Stability is all"

Playoff wins and competing for a SB is all...That's the fucking standard and always has been until Rooney and Tomlin re-jigged it to NHALS.

Even my wife, who is a very casual fan, understood about the playoff results mattering far more..It seems a concept lost on the indoctrinated ex players. Or they feel, if they are AA, that they have to support a Black coach which I get to a point.



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Post by Steelperch » Tue Jan 13, 2026 9:38 pm

Nobody is going to go on national tv and dance on Tomlin’s grave. Interviewing these guys is useless.

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Post by alancac98 » Tue Jan 13, 2026 9:40 pm

Lake is a buffoon and he can go screw a porcupine! His rantings a steeped in idiocy!

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Post by CKSteeler » Tue Jan 13, 2026 9:40 pm

shellwagnerblount wrote:
Tue Jan 13, 2026 9:36 pm
I had to turn Carnell Lake off..lol..I get that they love the guy and he was probably a great HC to deal with on a personal level. All good. But they repeat the same media talking points and ignore the playoff record. "They'll find him hard to replace" "NHALS" "Stability is all"

Playoff wins and competing for a SB is all...That's the fucking standard and always has been until Rooney and Tomlin re-jigged it to NHALS.

Even my wife, who is a very casual fan, understood about the playoff results mattering far more..It seems a concept lost on the indoctrinated ex players. Or they feel, if they are AA, that they have to support a Black coach which I get to a point.
Mike Tomlin's approach of pushing the chips in every year to achieve mediocrity has gotten a lot of players paid. That's the reality of it. That stability and lack of real accountability matters more to these entitled overpaid man children than anything.

If you were told you were going to get a new boss at work who was going to be a dick and you may be fired or lose money, but he was far better at his job, would you take him over the old reliable guy who took care of you but sucked? No, right?

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Post by the-other-burg » Tue Jan 13, 2026 9:47 pm

We're talking about guys who could barely string a sentence together on a normal day.
They're automatons repeating the same thing over and over so that they dont sound like idiots by expressing their own thoughts.

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Post by Dan Smith--BYU » Tue Jan 13, 2026 9:50 pm

The penultimate cum gobbler had to weigh in too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_btO8zzekk

Fuck Eisen, the only good thing I can say is he is not as putrid as Ryan Clark
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Post by anpsteel » Tue Jan 13, 2026 9:54 pm

I can promise you James Harrison is not one of those players

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Post by shellwagnerblount » Tue Jan 13, 2026 10:03 pm

anpsteel wrote:
Tue Jan 13, 2026 9:54 pm
I can promise you James Harrison is not one of those players
YES...and I cannot wait for his take. And Ben's...holy crap, this might get good fast..lol

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Post by Steelafan77 » Tue Jan 13, 2026 10:31 pm

CKSteeler wrote:
Tue Jan 13, 2026 9:40 pm
Mike Tomlin's approach of pushing the chips in every year to achieve mediocrity has gotten a lot of players paid. That's the reality of it. That stability and lack of real accountability matters more to these entitled overpaid man children than anything
THIS^

On the bright side that mentality is gone unless dunce decides he wants a 2.0 version.

I think deuce finally got the message from his Lifetime fans his head coach wasn’t cutting it.

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Post by DumlinBumlinStumlin » Tue Jan 13, 2026 10:40 pm

Ben will talk after HOf induction. Not sooner
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Post by Gonzo » Tue Jan 13, 2026 11:54 pm

CKSteeler wrote:
Tue Jan 13, 2026 9:40 pm
shellwagnerblount wrote:
Tue Jan 13, 2026 9:36 pm
I had to turn Carnell Lake off..lol..I get that they love the guy and he was probably a great HC to deal with on a personal level. All good. But they repeat the same media talking points and ignore the playoff record. "They'll find him hard to replace" "NHALS" "Stability is all"

Playoff wins and competing for a SB is all...That's the fucking standard and always has been until Rooney and Tomlin re-jigged it to NHALS.

Even my wife, who is a very casual fan, understood about the playoff results mattering far more..It seems a concept lost on the indoctrinated ex players. Or they feel, if they are AA, that they have to support a Black coach which I get to a point.
Mike Tomlin's approach of pushing the chips in every year to achieve mediocrity has gotten a lot of players paid. That's the reality of it. That stability and lack of real accountability matters more to these entitled overpaid man children than anything.

If you were told you were going to get a new boss at work who was going to be a dick and you may be fired or lose money, but he was far better at his job, would you take him over the old reliable guy who took care of you but sucked? No, right?
thats a bingo
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Post by RemoAZ » Wed Jan 14, 2026 12:25 am

Let them keep pumping him up until a team out there offers him the world and us a 1st round pick.
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Post by CoolShades » Wed Jan 14, 2026 12:55 am

DumlinBumlinStumlin wrote:
Tue Jan 13, 2026 10:40 pm
Ben will talk after HOf induction. Not sooner

Ive always believed this too

No way he says what he wants until after he’s in.

I’ll bet my house Mike Tomlin does not introduce Ben to Canton.
Mike Tomlin and NHALS - The embodiment of the soft bigotry of lowered expectations.

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Post by Steeldrama » Wed Jan 14, 2026 1:17 am

Worse than the usual pundits and former players kissing Tomlins ass was Cowherd’s suggestion that the Steelers trade 6….thats SIX….draft picks to draft Bamas Ty Simpson.

He really said that

Straight Face

Brutal
Brutal
Take

The Steelers don’t have to be Kenny Pickett stupid anymore.

NHALS is dead

Use the draft as the backdrop to introduce your young exciting new coach AND hand Danny Rooney the keys to the franchise in front of half a million drunk screaming yinzers.

Then

Take your time

Exercise some patience

Let’s reset and build this the right way

6 picks for Ty Simpson

Shit off stupid
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Post by CKSteeler » Wed Jan 14, 2026 1:20 am

CoolShades wrote:
Wed Jan 14, 2026 12:55 am
DumlinBumlinStumlin wrote:
Tue Jan 13, 2026 10:40 pm
Ben will talk after HOf induction. Not sooner

Ive always believed this too

No way he says what he wants until after he’s in.

I’ll bet my house Mike Tomlin does not introduce Ben to Canton.
Ben has said he would go with his agent which on the surface sounds a bit lame, but speaks volumes about Tomlin to me.

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Post by StillerDownSouth » Wed Jan 14, 2026 1:35 am

I'd like to have whatever Mendenhall is smoking.....says Tomlin had subpar QB play in all but 1 of his 19 seasons, some of the comments are very good.

https://x.com/R_Mendenhall/status/20111 ... 84309?s=20

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Post by DumlinBumlinStumlin » Wed Jan 14, 2026 4:34 am

CoolShades wrote:
Wed Jan 14, 2026 12:55 am
DumlinBumlinStumlin wrote:
Tue Jan 13, 2026 10:40 pm
Ben will talk after HOf induction. Not sooner

Ive always believed this too

No way he says what he wants until after he’s in.

I’ll bet my house Mike Tomlin does not introduce Ben to Canton.
Won’t be Tomlin I agree. Could be someone closer like a Pouncey or another person of his choosing
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Post by Deebo » Wed Jan 14, 2026 1:17 pm

StillerDownSouth wrote:
Wed Jan 14, 2026 1:35 am
I'd like to have whatever Mendenhall is smoking.....says Tomlin had subpar QB play in all but 1 of his 19 seasons, some of the comments are very good.

https://x.com/R_Mendenhall/status/20111 ... 84309?s=20
As if Tomlin didn't have any control over the QB after Ben

Socrates Mendenhall strikes again

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Post by Gonzo » Wed Jan 14, 2026 1:42 pm

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Post by Gonzo » Wed Jan 14, 2026 1:44 pm

no QB drafted this year before 4th round
so many picks to use and build a new team buy a new coach, GM and staff
next year QB

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Post by Ice » Wed Jan 14, 2026 2:48 pm

I mean, Tomlin gave Lake his start in coaching, a pretty cool opportunity for a very good and occasionally great Steeler whose playing career predated Tomlin's tenure with the team. I can see why he'd be emotional, and I can understand why he'd have good things to say. Nothing wrong with that.

Also, I wholly agree that if these former players speaking out on how great MT was nets us a draft pick, more power to them.
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Post by StillMadAtSlobber » Wed Jan 14, 2026 2:56 pm

Steeldrama wrote:
Wed Jan 14, 2026 1:17 am
Worse than the usual pundits and former players kissing Tomlins ass was Cowherd’s suggestion that the Steelers trade 6….thats SIX….draft picks to draft Bamas Ty Simpson.

He really said that

Straight Face

Brutal
Brutal
Take

The Steelers don’t have to be Kenny Pickett stupid anymore.

NHALS is dead

Use the draft as the backdrop to introduce your young exciting new coach AND hand Danny Rooney the keys to the franchise in front of half a million drunk screaming yinzers.

Then

Take your time

Exercise some patience

Let’s reset and build this the right way

6 picks for Ty Simpson

Shit off stupid
That is all on you, for listening to Cowherd in the first place.

Do you do it for the endorphin rush after you turn off the radio/broadcast?
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Post by StillMadAtSlobber » Wed Jan 14, 2026 2:58 pm

StillerDownSouth wrote:
Wed Jan 14, 2026 1:35 am
I'd like to have whatever Mendenhall is smoking.....says Tomlin had subpar QB play in all but 1 of his 19 seasons, some of the comments are very good.

https://x.com/R_Mendenhall/status/20111 ... 84309?s=20
Sounds like Spinderella is still dizzy...
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Post by .Kodiak » Wed Jan 14, 2026 3:17 pm

RemoAZ wrote:
Wed Jan 14, 2026 12:25 am
Let them keep pumping him up until a team out there offers him the world and us a 1st round pick.
I think this is pure fantasy. The guy has NO coaching tree, and barely even a track record of low-level assistants getting poached and promoted.

A team like CLE might be desperate to appease the fans. But my guess is the NFL opinion of Tomlin is actually pretty close to this board's.

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Post by Steeldrama » Wed Jan 14, 2026 3:27 pm

StillMadAtSlobber wrote:
Wed Jan 14, 2026 2:56 pm
Steeldrama wrote:
Wed Jan 14, 2026 1:17 am
Worse than the usual pundits and former players kissing Tomlins ass was Cowherd’s suggestion that the Steelers trade 6….thats SIX….draft picks to draft Bamas Ty Simpson.

He really said that

Straight Face

Brutal
Brutal
Take

The Steelers don’t have to be Kenny Pickett stupid anymore.

NHALS is dead

Use the draft as the backdrop to introduce your young exciting new coach AND hand Danny Rooney the keys to the franchise in front of half a million drunk screaming yinzers.

Then

Take your time

Exercise some patience

Let’s reset and build this the right way

6 picks for Ty Simpson

Shit off stupid
That is all on you, for listening to Cowherd in the first place.

Do you do it for the endorphin rush after you turn off the radio/broadcast?
Good to see you posting again, Slobber

I record Cowherd and nick wrights afternoon shows

About an hour before bed during the week I’ll pick one of those shows or McAfees YouTube recording to watch just to get some sports entertainment

I realize none of those 3 are overly knowledgeable or in Cowherd’s case particularly likable, it’s just my way of winding down from a busy day
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Post by AirRescueFF » Wed Jan 14, 2026 4:13 pm

For the player apologists like Cam who keep on saying it's about execution....

https://x.com/i/status/2011128996184932598


...when you have a known liability, but keep on putting that product out there.

That's coaching.
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Post by CKSteeler » Wed Jan 14, 2026 5:25 pm

AirRescueFF wrote:
Wed Jan 14, 2026 4:13 pm
For the player apologists like Cam who keep on saying it's about execution....

https://x.com/i/status/2011128996184932598


...when you have a known liability, but keep on putting that product out there.

That's coaching.
He did the same thing with that piece of shit Devin Bush for years on defense. And he had a guy who would go onto make the Pro Bowl at LB for the Raiders of all teams who if nothing else was all guts and heart compared to a piece of shit who didn't even care like Jonnu.

The Devin Bush stuff made me question Watt and Heyward more than any defense of Tomlin they ever spewed. Like how are as a defender going to watch the tape of your defense getting run on while your ILB literally goes out of his way to avoid contact like a woman?

And I don't typically make a habit of questioning the toughness of NFL LB's. It was just undeniable with Bush.

If your vet leaders on defense are willing to accept that being trotted out onto the field every week, you really have to question their commitment to winning.

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Post by Baltostiller » Wed Jan 14, 2026 5:42 pm

CoolShades wrote:
Wed Jan 14, 2026 12:55 am
DumlinBumlinStumlin wrote:
Tue Jan 13, 2026 10:40 pm
Ben will talk after HOf induction. Not sooner

Ive always believed this too

No way he says what he wants until after he’s in.

I’ll bet my house Mike Tomlin does not introduce Ben to Canton.
It will be Pouncey or Kiesel.

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Post by Gonzo » Wed Jan 14, 2026 5:48 pm

its maddening but all these people are part of an industry and they are not going to burn bridges for no value or close future options or avenues
they just are not going to directly criticize - especially the ones that were a part of it
Hell -- Cam may want a job later

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Post by anpsteel » Wed Jan 14, 2026 5:59 pm

Gonzo wrote:
Wed Jan 14, 2026 1:44 pm
no QB drafted this year before 4th round
so many picks to use and build a new team buy a new coach, GM and staff
next year QB
Very much this

I would use all of the pics to restock the cupboard and give Will Howard a chance

If he sucks, then theoretically you are in better draft position to take somebody the following year

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