mega Merged AB nonsense thread

[Legacy User]

There's way too much talk about Oakland's 2nd round pick (#35) for my liking. Feels like someone knows something.

Colonel Mustard in the Conservatory says AB is going to the Titans for the 19th pick overall

[955876]

There's way too much talk about Oakland's 2nd round pick (#35) for my liking. Feels like someone knows something.

Colonel Mustard in the Conservatory says AB is going to the Titans for the 19th pick overall

Pipe dream.

I’m going to assume they’ll jump on an offer kind of like how they sprint to the podium on draft day.

Will be pleasantly surprised if they get a 1st but highly doubtful.

They’ll get a 2nd and proceeed to draft another turd.

[Legacy User]

There's way too much talk about Oakland's 2nd round pick (#35) for my liking. Feels like someone knows something.

Colonel Mustard in the Conservatory says AB is going to the Titans for the 19th pick overall

Pipe dream.

I’m going to assume they’ll jump on an offer kind of like how they sprint to the podium on draft day.

Will be pleasantly surprised if they get a 1st but highly doubtful.

They’ll get a 2nd and proceeed to draft another turd.

Love your optimism.

All I can say is Col Mustard has the inside track

[K_C_]

You mentioned AB's numbers in the New Orleans loss but failed to mention his 5 catches for 35 yards performance (with 0 TD's) against the Raiders.

But again....AB's one helluva talent but so was Terrell Owens. It's a shock to ABSOLUTELY NOBODY that T.O. retired ringless.

That's exactly how AB is going to retire.

How much of that is on the HC and his comfort in leaving in a DII back-up QB while protecting a 3 point lead.

25 minutes of football with the Dobbs to AB connection totaling 1 catch and 6 yards.

With that in mind,
Tomlins dumb down game plan and mentality of keeping it close and playing it safe against inferior opponent, may not have resulted in a big Ben to AB day anyway.

JuJu had 8 catches for 130 yards receiving against the Raiders and 2 scores.

Swiss was crowing about AB's great game in a loss vs the Saints but was awful quiet about AB's SHIT game against the Raiders.

JuJu put up serious numbers in that same game AB did NOTHING.

[Orangesteel]

KC,

First off, baba booey to you. Second, while I’m a massive JJSS fan and even bought a Team Juju sweatshirt, our offense is going to be massively different with Brown gone. JJSS is a stud, but when AB is on the other side of the field, commanding the coverage that he does, and he was still putting up legendary numbers? Well, that means way more room for JJSS to operate, and he sure did.

AB is gone; I’m over it. But we desperately need to fill that spot with some talent, and I don’t mean James Washington. I mean a guy who is proven (I like Funchess)

[the-other-burg]

KC,

First off, baba booey to you. Second, while I’m a massive JJSS fan and even bought a Team Juju sweatshirt, our offense is going to be massively different with Brown gone. JJSS is a stud, but when AB is on the other side of the field, commanding the coverage that he does, and he was still putting up legendary numbers? Well, that means way more room for JJSS to operate, and he sure did.

AB is gone; I’m over it. But we desperately need to fill that spot with some talent, and I don’t mean James Washington. I mean a guy who is proven (I like Funchess)

Not to mention the impact not having AB can have on our running game production. Guys that instill fear into every DC in the league dont grow on trees. Teams had to plan the defensive scheme around AB, and he STILL torched them. Hate the muthafucker now but I am going to miss watching him play.

[Kodiak]

There's been a long history on this board of chicken littles proclaiming the sky is falling because Receiver ABC, and the offense, is going to struggle when Receiver XYZ leaves.

It was said when Plax left. When Holmes left. When Wallace left. And the offense kept right on ticking, including 3 SB appearances and 2 rings.

The offense won't just survive AB leaving, it will keep right on humming. JuJu will have a big year. Take it to the bank.

[the-other-burg]

There's been a long history on this board of chicken littles proclaiming the sky is falling because Receiver ABC, and the offense, is going to struggle when Receiver XYZ leaves.

It was said when Plax left. When Holmes left. When Wallace left. And the offense kept right on ticking, including 3 SB appearances and 2 rings.

The offense won't just survive AB leaving, it will keep right on humming. JuJu will have a big year. Take it to the bank.

I think the offense will still be good by NFL standards because of Ben and the O-line as the foundation- and that can survive the loss of AB. But last I checked the Steelers are a team that need to be damn near perfect on Offense to win games. And the margin for error will be that much smaller without its biggest play maker.

[Orangesteel]

There's been a long history on this board of chicken littles proclaiming the sky is falling because Receiver ABC, and the offense, is going to struggle when Receiver XYZ leaves.

It was said when Plax left. When Holmes left. When Wallace left. And the offense kept right on ticking, including 3 SB appearances and 2 rings.

The offense won't just survive AB leaving, it will keep right on humming. JuJu will have a big year. Take it to the bank.

I hope, but AB’s production was way beyond Plax and Holmes. Wallace scored but he really was a one dimensional deep threat.

This is going to be a challenge for Fitchner: I hope he’s up to it.

[Legacy User]

There's been a long history on this board of chicken littles proclaiming the sky is falling because Receiver ABC, and the offense, is going to struggle when Receiver XYZ leaves.

It was said when Plax left. When Holmes left. When Wallace left. And the offense kept right on ticking, including 3 SB appearances and 2 rings.

The offense won't just survive AB leaving, it will keep right on humming. JuJu will have a big year. Take it to the bank.

Plax - not a HOFer

Holmes - not a HOFer

Wallace - not a HOFer

While I agree to some extent, I think it’s too early to be able to fear the offense will suck or it’ll be “humming.”

Let’s see who the replacement on the roster ends up being....

[955876]

Love your optimism.

What this team & staff have put on tape leaves one with no other choice.

[Orangesteel]

There's been a long history on this board of chicken littles proclaiming the sky is falling because Receiver ABC, and the offense, is going to struggle when Receiver XYZ leaves.

It was said when Plax left. When Holmes left. When Wallace left. And the offense kept right on ticking, including 3 SB appearances and 2 rings.

The offense won't just survive AB leaving, it will keep right on humming. JuJu will have a big year. Take it to the bank.

I think the offense will still be good by NFL standards because of Ben and the O-line as the foundation- and that can survive the loss of AB. But last I checked the Steelers are a team that need to be damn near perfect on Offense to win games. And the margin for error will be that much smaller without its biggest play maker.

This. And a lot of that has to do with the fact that our HC and DC are fuckheads.

[Legacy User]

Love your optimism.

What this team & staff have put on tape leaves one with no other choice.

Not gonna disagree

[Havoc]

As much as Jon Gruden loves veteran players — and had good experiences with both Andre Rison and Jerry Rice at the back end of their careers — he’s more interested in the future.

As was established when Khalil Mack was sent packing when his salary demands exceeded what the Raiders were willing to pay, Gruden and new general manager Mike Mayock are going to value draft picks and young talent.

All signs point to a draft and develop stage for the Raiders. Which means not parting with one of their later first-round draft picks (either No. 24 or No. 27) for a 30-year-old receiver.

If the price drops and there is a fire sale, things could change.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/03/06/why-the-raiders-wont-trade-for-steelers-wr-antonio-brown/

[K_C_]

There's been a long history on this board of chicken littles proclaiming the sky is falling because Receiver ABC, and the offense, is going to struggle when Receiver XYZ leaves.

It was said when Plax left. When Holmes left. When Wallace left. And the offense kept right on ticking, including 3 SB appearances and 2 rings.

The offense won't just survive AB leaving, it will keep right on humming. JuJu will have a big year. Take it to the bank.

I hope, but AB’s production was way beyond Plax and Holmes. Wallace scored but he really was a one dimensional deep threat.

This is going to be a challenge for Fitchner: I hope he’s up to it.

Well, JuJu is a very, very special player so to me, you somehow add a guy with deep speed (which has to be respected over the top) and JuJu, Vance and james Washington are even more dangerous underneath.

Conner and Jaylen Samuels look like very dangerous options out of the backfield. Conner shocked me last season with his ability to catch the ball and do something with it.

We simply do not need an AB level player for this offense to remain very, very effective. All of us noticed Ben throwing far too many passes to AB last year.

This year, Ben is going to spread the wealth and don't worry, by the time the season rolls around, Ben will have plenty of weapons.

[alancac98]

If he’s on the bench wouldn’t that indicate he is refusing to show up?

Meaning they don’t have to pay?

Unless of course they want to continue with the asinine presedent they set by paying the c*nt for the Bungles game...

I don't trust him to play him. How could you?

He can cause all kinds of problems that don't qualify for suspension and fining/withholding pay. What if he fakes injury? The list goes on and on - he has a union, and a contract. You can't deal with him the same way you might handle an at-will employee.

That's when you use his teammates to set him straight. I let my guys smash the shit out of him. Also if nothing shows up the medical tests, and I would send him to at least 3 top professionals, then he plays, period. If he doesn't, then he's docked pay and I fight that out in court as the Steelers can show they did their due diligence by getting multiple opinions. If he dogs it on the field, should they play him, you have plenty of past film to prove it as one doesn't look like the other. You can then take him to court for breach of contract and prove he isn't performing! Sue him to recoup money. Of course, I'm not a a lawyer. Honestly, I don't think it would take him much to make him blow his top and just outright quit. He's rather fragile, to say the least.

[955876]

As much as Jon Gruden loves veteran players — and had good experiences with both Andre Rison and Jerry Rice at the back end of their careers — he’s more interested in the future.

As was established when Khalil Mack was sent packing when his salary demands exceeded what the Raiders were willing to pay, Gruden and new general manager Mike Mayock are going to value draft picks and young talent.

All signs point to a draft and develop stage for the Raiders. Which means not parting with one of their later first-round draft picks (either No. 24 or No. 27) for a 30-year-old receiver.

If the price drops and there is a fire sale, things could change.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/03/06/why-the-raiders-wont-trade-for-steelers-wr-antonio-brown/

Deuce’s sphincter is already tightening.

Almost a certainty that he gets played.

[Orangesteel]

Keep him. Bench him. Fuck him.

[955876]

Keep him. Bench him. Fuck him.

If I’m a deep pocket owner that’s the route I go.

Setting a bad presedent that all an unhappy player needs to do is act like a douche and Arty will grant your wish.

[K_C_]

Keep him. Bench him. Fuck him.

I only bench him if he's a dick. If he shows up ready for work, I start him.

If he shows up and he's a dick, I send him home suspended for conduct detrimental.

If he doesn't show up at all, I don't have to pay him.

To me, this is real easy.

No first rounder? AB remains a Steeler. The rest is up to him.

[the-other-burg]

Keep him. Bench him. Fuck him.

I only bench him if he's a dick. If he shows up ready for work, I start him.

If he shows up and he's a dick, I send him home suspended for conduct detrimental.

If he doesn't show up at all, I don't have to pay him.

To me, this is real easy.

No first rounder? AB remains a Steeler. The rest is up to him.

This where I have been. You cant set a minimum price and accept any less than that, its weak. Steelers should walk away if they need to.

[SOCALSTEEL]

I really hope the Steelers trade AB for some players not picks.
Of course draft picks are easier on the cap but this team can’t afford much more risk.
Would you trade AB at this point for Terrell Edmunds?
What about for Jarvis Jones?
Bud Dupree ?
Artie Burns?
First round picks!
Let’s face it.If the Steelers score a first round pick what are the chances of thaf player significantly contributing to the Steelers before Ben retires?

If you can get 2 average/solid & relatively young NFL starters in a trade it’s a no brainer to me over a 20ish draft pick.

[Legacy User]

Keep him. Bench him. Fuck him.

If I’m a deep pocket owner that’s the route I go.

Setting a bad presedent that all an unhappy player needs to do is act like a douche and Arty will grant your wish.

yup, im with you guys. Between harrison, and brown, the horses are out of the barn, so to speak, letting him go in a fire sale is a really really dangerous precedent.

[Legacy User]

having set all that, re: bad precedent, the Deuce is probably thinking he wants to save the 2.5 mil bonus.

[ToddHaleysNineIron]

Mark Madden didn't think Antonio Brown's behavior was to lessen the value the Steelers would get because it would in turn lessen any opportunity for him to get an extension, but I believe he thinks he can so devalue himself that no trade is worth it, and that the steelers won't waste the space to keep him because Ben's clock is ticking - at which point he can be released and be a free agent.

[tbsteel]

Nothing I've seen shows the Steelers are negotiating from a strong position. My guess is a second round pick at best.

[Jobu]

Keep him. Bench him. Fuck him.

I only bench him if he's a dick. If he shows up ready for work, I start him.

If he shows up and he's a dick, I send him home suspended for conduct detrimental.

If he doesn't show up at all, I don't have to pay him.

To me, this is real easy.

No first rounder? AB remains a Steeler. The rest is up to him.

This is what I’m talking about. If...BIG IF, he’s a good soldier you play him. If not, then fuck him But why cut off your nose to spite your face?

[tbsteel]

I'd let AB suit up again, on the condition that his gameday mouthpiece has to be a 12" golden dildo.

Sure, it'll hang out of his face mask and flop around a lot which could affect his sight and ability to be a high-quality receiver, but it's the price you pay when you piss on your team and don't apologize for it.

[Legacy User]

I'd let AB suit up again, on the condition that his gameday mouthpiece has to be a 12" golden dildo.

Sure, it'll hang out of his face mask and flop around a lot which could affect his sight and ability to be a high-quality receiver, but it's the price you pay when you piss on your team and don't apologize for it.

[Legacy User]

So I take it we don't believe Colbert when he says we're not going to trade AB unless we get appropriate value in return?