Who cares about Bell?

[Minkah'n History]

FIGHTING WORDS FROM BELL’S AGENT

"Le'Veon has several years ahead of him in football. We know right now his days in Pittsburgh are precarious at best. We also know how he's been utilized in the past by the Steelers organization," Bakari told NFL Live.

Totally taking another turn here with that statement, whoa!!

I don’t get it. This is what him or any feature back would want.

What a bum

[chippedhamsandwich]

Exactly, the only way he makes his money is if he gets those touches!

The Steelers have relied on him and so has Bell!

Goes both ways, his Agent sounds like an asshole because he gets a cut on the paycheck!

The Fuck?!?!

[Kodiak]

FIGHTING WORDS FROM BELL’S AGENT

That seals it.....desperate ploy hoping PIT will cut him. Bell gains NOTHING in a sign & trade deal, except perhaps an audition for someone who might pay him a little more after a chance to kick the tires.

But what would he be worth in trade? The future team can't feasibly tag him (it would probably follow him, meaning close to $20M to tag him again). What would they give up for a malcontent they may only be renting for $14M for one year? Hell, they'd practically be doing PIT a favor taking that contract off their hands.

Bell is really rolling the dice here. Conner & Co. do well, or even if Bell is top-dog but in a rotation....his market value could plummet from $12-14M a year to less than $10M a year.

[Kodiak]

Goes both ways, his Agent sounds like an asshole because he gets a cut on the paycheck!

I don't know. I think his agent may just be doing damage control. I think Bell gets his own ideas and his agent is left to try and justify it.

[Stallworth16]

Here’s the quote from Adisa Bakari, Bell’s agent

"Le'Veon has several years ahead of him in football. We know right now his days in Pittsburgh are precarious at best. We also know how he's been utilized in the past by the Steelers organization,"

“That's nothing to say negative about the Steelers. They had one of the best players to have ever played this position and they rely on him heavily for the production he can provide, but in doing so, you take away from his future years."

Here’s how the logic could be wrong. For every game Bell does not sign, he will lose $852,941. That’s serious money per game. There is no guarantee the contract he gets next year will be better than what the Steelers offered him. Running backs tend to fall off the cliff at 28-30. Bell, age 27, is skipping what might be his last good year. He’s hurting his legacy and his chance for HOF. His next offensive line is likely to be worse. He could have shown up for training camp with a positive attitude and impressed his teammates and the fans, but that’s not Bell or his agent. They are willing to skip a year, for that big contract, which might be less guaranteed than they are expecting. Lastly Bell is hurting friendships with his Steeler teammates.

[chippedhamsandwich]

“That's nothing to say negative about the Steelers. They had one of the best players to have ever played this position and they rely on him heavily for the production he can provide, but in doing so, you take away from his future years."

Rooney & Colbert have to be FUCKING LIVID at this......

[steelmann58]

Bell has two Major Surgeries and again getting up their for a Running Back. He a great past catcher and running back but lacks that breakaway speed. I really can't see a team giving him all that gurantee money.

[steelmann58]

you getting paid 1 2 million to be the featured back so why would the steelers not use him. Nice shot at the steelers glad to see his teammates calling him out and saying what they really feel. I would not play him at all. We have never won a sb with him so it not a loss IMO

[Havoc]

“That's nothing to say negative about the Steelers. They had one of the best players to have ever played this position and they rely on him heavily for the production he can provide, but in doing so, you take away from his future years."

Rooney & Colbert have to be FUCKING LIVID at this......

The audacity of these statements.

Bells overuse has been a big frustration for me with this team the past few years. That is exactly what Bell and his fanboys wanted. And now he is trying to use it against the FO.

I am so disgusted with Leveon Bell.

[955876]

but in doing so, you take away from his future years."

Exactly why teams don’t want to pay soon to be 30 years old RBs huge money based on past production.

[Kodiak]

Look, Bell has really good hands....runs good routes....but LBers can cover him.

He's tough to stop, and no doubt keeps DC's up at night. But he doesn't SCARE you.

And, I agree, between Ben and his weapons defenses WANT the ball in Bell's hands.

[Kodiak]

but in doing so, you take away from his future years."

Exactly why teams don’t want to pay soon to be 30 years old RBs huge money based on past production.

There's nothing they can do to incentivize him to come sooner. But if Ben and the receivers can carry the team (with competent RB by committee), do you even want Bell showing up before Wk11?

Let's say PIT is a #2 seed (because, let's be honest, they aren't going to be a #1 seed even with Bell)....would you rather pay Bell all that money and get worn down.....or pay him $5M and be healthy and rested for the stretch run and the playoffs?


Let the jersey burnings begin!!!

[955876]

Let's say PIT is a #2 seed (because, let's be honest, they aren't going to be a #1 seed even with Bell)....would you rather pay Bell all that money and get worn down.....or pay him $5M and be healthy and rested for the stretch run and the playoffs?

Well, we could be a #1 seed if we didn’t piss away a game or two every year. But that is another topic.

Agree on the last part. At this point that is looking beat for all involved.

He will have a lot to prove and a short time to do so.

Maybe he strings together some outstanding games down the stretch and in the postseason cumulating in a championship.

After that he can do whatever the hell it is he wants.

[Gonzo]

FIGHTING WORDS FROM BELL’S AGENT

That seals it.....desperate ploy hoping PIT will cut him. Bell gains NOTHING in a sign & trade deal, except perhaps an audition for someone who might pay him a little more after a chance to kick the tires.

But what would he be worth in trade? The future team can't feasibly tag him (it would probably follow him, meaning close to $20M to tag him again). What would they give up for a malcontent they may only be renting for $14M for one year? Hell, they'd practically be doing PIT a favor taking that contract off their hands.

Bell is really rolling the dice here. Conner & Co. do well, or even if Bell is top-dog but in a rotation....his market value could plummet from $12-14M a year to less than $10M a year.

Even if he sits ten games he is still going to get a huge contract with guaranteed money. That is his goal.

[Gonzo]

Here’s the quote from Adisa Bakari, Bell’s agent

"Le'Veon has several years ahead of him in football. We know right now his days in Pittsburgh are precarious at best. We also know how he's been utilized in the past by the Steelers organization,"

“That's nothing to say negative about the Steelers. They had one of the best players to have ever played this position and they rely on him heavily for the production he can provide, but in doing so, you take away from his future years."

Here’s how the logic could be wrong. For every game Bell does not sign, he will lose $852,941. That’s serious money per game. There is no guarantee the contract he gets next year will be better than what the Steelers offered him. Running backs tend to fall off the cliff at 28-30. Bell, age 27, is skipping what might be his last good year. He’s hurting his legacy and his chance for HOF. His next offensive line is likely to be worse. He could have shown up for training camp with a positive attitude and impressed his teammates and the fans, but that’s not Bell or his agent. They are willing to skip a year, for that big contract, which might be less guaranteed than they are expecting. Lastly Bell is hurting friendships with his Steeler teammates.

That's 8.5m and that is the risk/bet. To make that money he has to risk a big contract and guaranteed money. the steelers won't release him and that's what he wants anyway. IMO if he sits it's not going to impact greatly what someone will pay hm next year. And if he shows up and pays great versus sitting ... how much extra in his next contract will he really get for the former ? In his head not enough to risk injury. If he sits that's a years less wear and tear in him and ups his contract value.

The steelers aren't going to ever pay him what he can get elsewhere. He wants to be released, traded or minimise as much injury risk as possible. He needs health more than anything else to cash in.

He doesn't care about legacy ... that is obvious

If there are takers offering 1st round pick(S) the steelers should take it IMO

[Legacy User]

FIGHTING WORDS FROM BELL’S AGENT

That seals it.....desperate ploy hoping PIT will cut him. Bell gains NOTHING in a sign & trade deal, except perhaps an audition for someone who might pay him a little more after a chance to kick the tires.

But what would he be worth in trade? The future team can't feasibly tag him (it would probably follow him, meaning close to $20M to tag him again). What would they give up for a malcontent they may only be renting for $14M for one year? Hell, they'd practically be doing PIT a favor taking that contract off their hands.

Bell is really rolling the dice here. Conner & Co. do well, or even if Bell is top-dog but in a rotation....his market value could plummet from $12-14M a year to less than $10M a year.

I prefer that the team give him the Mike Merriweather treatment. He was another player who thought he was beyond the team. So the Steelers kept him under contract for the year and he wasn't able to play and enhance his value. He lost a lot of money because of that brilliant maneuver and I think that's exactly how the team will handle it with the lame rapper.

Ask Mike how that worked out for him. Leveon Bell done fucked up in the name of greed and self promotion. He'll be lucky to get 10mil per year next year.

Fuck Lev Bell- dead to me.

[Steelafan77]

Bell already did himself wrong by not signing the contract(s) offered. Even if he reported for practice on Monday, Tuesday or yesterday. Bell would have made more money at this point. Add to that he's not getting paid again for week 1. Dude is a trainwreck. Maybe, Bell recoups the millions he's lost to this point. Maybe he doesn't. I'm sure we'll see.

[Legacy User]

I never bought a Bell jersey. Interesting. I guess I was always, since the beginning, unsure of what kind of teammate he really was. Don't get me wrong, he's a stud and I've enjoyed watching him play...and then somehow have a groin issue in the playoffs for weeks after a record setting game??? Anyways, I'm pissed. I'm pissed at the NFL that allows this nonsense to occur. I don't want players to be taken advantage of, I think they deserve to be handsomely rewarded for their efforts. What exactly is the point of a franchise tag? Rhetorical question. /Rant Off

We're a better team when he plays, but we're not a better team if he returns at this point. We're essentially saying he's so critical, that if injured, our season is over. I don't believe that. There are too many bad things that can happen and how can anyone trust that he would be there for the team. Seriously, even if he shows up next week (then you have to ask what was the point of week one and the agent's BS), who will trust he's going to be all in or not have an injury during the first outing? I'm thinking he's knows the north opponents are the hardest games, why risk it. The Browns have everything to prove to make a statement game. Wait until a week there's a lesser opponent...sign in that Monday, either play that week or if put on a two week waiver, get hurt in practice and be done. He only risks his reputation in the market, but I think there are plenty of teams willing to pay him. Maybe not, let's find out at this point and hopefully they are working behind the scenes to trade him.

It's done, Bell will never be a true Steeler at this point. It would require him to show up now (or very soon), stand before the team and apologize to everyone, and give nothing less then 100%...anyone think that's going to happen?

[Legacy User]

Bell already did himself wrong by not signing the contract(s) offered. Even if he reported for practice on Monday, Tuesday or yesterday. Bell would have made more money at this point. Add to that he's not getting paid again for week 1. Dude is a trainwreck. Maybe, Bell recoups the millions he's lost to this point. Maybe he doesn't. I'm sure we'll see.

He can sign in as late as Saturday and still get paid.

[USS Steelerworks]

FIGHTING WORDS FROM BELL’S AGENT

That seals it.....desperate ploy hoping PIT will cut him. Bell gains NOTHING in a sign & trade deal, except perhaps an audition for someone who might pay him a little more after a chance to kick the tires.

But what would he be worth in trade? The future team can't feasibly tag him (it would probably follow him, meaning close to $20M to tag him again). What would they give up for a malcontent they may only be renting for $14M for one year? Hell, they'd practically be doing PIT a favor taking that contract off their hands.

Bell is really rolling the dice here. Conner & Co. do well, or even if Bell is top-dog but in a rotation....his market value could plummet from $12-14M a year to less than $10M a year.

Even if he sits ten games he is still going to get a huge contract with guaranteed money. That is his goal.

Maybe, if he doesn’t get injured when he comes back from being out of football shape. But if he does will it be $9 - $10 million more than what the Steelers offered in the off-season? Especially if the team and Conner are able to produce without him? If not then this was a dumb business decision.

[Louis Lipps Service]

That seals it.....desperate ploy hoping PIT will cut him. Bell gains NOTHING in a sign & trade deal, except perhaps an audition for someone who might pay him a little more after a chance to kick the tires.

But what would he be worth in trade? The future team can't feasibly tag him (it would probably follow him, meaning close to $20M to tag him again). What would they give up for a malcontent they may only be renting for $14M for one year? Hell, they'd practically be doing PIT a favor taking that contract off their hands.

Bell is really rolling the dice here. Conner & Co. do well, or even if Bell is top-dog but in a rotation....his market value could plummet from $12-14M a year to less than $10M a year.

Even if he sits ten games he is still going to get a huge contract with guaranteed money. That is his goal.

Maybe, if he doesn’t get injured when he comes back from being out of football shape. But if he does will it be $9 - $10 million more than what the Steelers offered in the off-season? Especially if the team and Conner are able to produce without him? If not then this was a dumb business decision.

Yeah, unless he comes back and shows he can return to his All-Pro form from 2-3 years ago, I don't think it's a given that he gets the mega deal he, and many others, seem to think he's going to get.

He'll be 27 years old next year, with a lot of miles on the odometer and already declining productivity. Plus a suspension for weed on his record. Plus two seasons now of him proving he doesn't give a shit about the team and only himself.

Any one of those things in a vacuum is easy to overlook for a team needing a RB. But all of them? I dunno.

I think some team will be dumb enough to give him a pretty substantial deal. But I don't think it'll be anything above what the Steelers already offered to him this past offseason. And I think that's where he fucked up.

[Scunge]

The thing that is ironic about there being that one team willing to pay Bell what he wants is that same team is also just as likely to cut bait with him at the first sign of trouble.

I have seen many teams over the years give out big money contracts and then those players are cut 2 or 3 years into the deal.

Bell should really be careful of what he is wishing for, he could very well end up like Mike Wallace. He spurned our offer and left for bigger money in Miami and then they traded him to Minnesota, and then he moved on to Baltimore and now Philly.

I think Bell will sign a new deal for decent money but I really think that he will quickly go downhill and be cut in 2 or 3 years time as that new team will be expecting Bell from 2014, but unfortunately we haven't seen that player in a long time.

[955876]

If history is any indicator he’ll be in New England just in time for the stretch run...

[AirRescueFF]

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Planning on stealing a game check? Got it. Reaaaaallly endearing himself to the team.

[steelmann58]

If i was the steelers will make him wait.

[Kodiak]

Planning on stealing a game check? Got it. Reaaaaallly endearing himself to the team.

Minimizing practice time. Assuming PIT uses the exemption and he sits two games, it makes no difference to his wallet if he reports this past Monday or this Saturday.

But I'll be surprised if Tomlin sits him against KC. Eventhough it might not be wise to throw Bell out there after just 1 week of practice, it's Tomlin.

[stillthere]

Planning on stealing a game check? Got it. Reaaaaallly endearing himself to the team.

Minimizing practice time. Assuming PIT uses the exemption and he sits two games, it makes no difference to his wallet if he reports this past Monday or this Saturday.

But I'll be surprised if Tomlin sits him against KC. Eventhough it might not be wise to throw Bell out there after just 1 week of practice, it's Tomlin.

I think a big part of that is how we look running against Cleveland. If we put up 150+ yards and look good running then you can sit him till he is in game shape.

[Kodiak]

I think a big part of that is how we look running against Cleveland. If we put up 150+ yards and look good running then you can sit him till he is in game shape.

That, and the belief the sooner he gets reps the sooner he gets up to speed.

Last year, he had 1 week and looked like dogshit against CLE - 10 carries and 6 targets.

I'm going to say I don't think he helps the team after just 1 week of practice. Along with sending a message and saving $855k, I sit him the full 2 games.

[Suwanee88]

Is he tradeable att this point?

[Legacy User]

Starting to think we’ve seen the last of Bell in a Steelers uniform