Biggest disappointment [player] of last decade
- StillerInCT
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Re: Biggest disappointment [player] of last decade
Allowing Kurt Warner to host a YouTube channel and thus starting the demise of the Steelers organization.
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StillerInCT wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:18 pmAllowing Kurt Warner to host a YouTube channel and thus starting the demise of the Steelers organization.
Yeah. I would. The steelers invested all kinds of time and money on the guy and he chose god without any warning leaving a massive hole.stillthere wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 7:10 pmHe started to come around then went to the church. I would not put him as the biggest disappointment as you saw him develop before walking away.
Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are, the pigeon is going to shit on the board and strut around like it won anyway.
I get where you're coming from, but Worilds (at least) didn't cause any financial issues. He played on his rookie contract then the franchise tag. Even if he had kept playing, there was a possibility that he would sign elsewhere.COR-TEN wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:13 pmYeah. I would. The steelers invested all kinds of time and money on the guy and he chose god without any warning leaving a massive hole.stillthere wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 7:10 pmHe started to come around then went to the church. I would not put him as the biggest disappointment as you saw him develop before walking away.
The bigger issue at the OLB position (at that time) was the Jarvis Jones pick. Worilds was certainly a disappointment, but I don't know that he cracks the top 5.
Fair enough. But Jarvis Jones didn't show anything at all. He was a disappointment from the get go. And I'll also jump on the 'fuck mike adams' train. . . That was a colossal failure all around, and would exclude shazier in this convo.Pabst wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:19 pmI get where you're coming from, but Worilds (at least) didn't cause any financial issues. He played on his rookie contract then the franchise tag. Even if he had kept playing, there was a possibility that he would sign elsewhere.COR-TEN wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:13 pmYeah. I would. The steelers invested all kinds of time and money on the guy and he chose god without any warning leaving a massive hole.stillthere wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 7:10 pm
He started to come around then went to the church. I would not put him as the biggest disappointment as you saw him develop before walking away.
The bigger issue at the OLB position (at that time) was the Jarvis Jones pick. Worilds was certainly a disappointment, but I don't know that he cracks the top 5.
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Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are, the pigeon is going to shit on the board and strut around like it won anyway.
McCullers is a guy I really hoped would turn out to be a steal and be a dominant force. Would have been awesome to see, but probably also a reason why you just don't see guys that large excelling in the NFL.
Not that he's a true "disappointment" given expectations were never all that high. Just another low-end roster guy, like Sean Spence, that I really wanted to see make it.
Not that he's a true "disappointment" given expectations were never all that high. Just another low-end roster guy, like Sean Spence, that I really wanted to see make it.
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I'm pretty sure Mike Adams had no desire or willingness to do what it takes to improve his game so that he could be a starter in the league.COR-TEN wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:29 pmFair enough. But Jarvis Jones didn't show anything at all. He was a disappointment from the get go. And I'll also jump on the 'fuck mike adams' train. . . That was a colossal failure all around, and would exclude shazier in this convo.Pabst wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:19 pmI get where you're coming from, but Worilds (at least) didn't cause any financial issues. He played on his rookie contract then the franchise tag. Even if he had kept playing, there was a possibility that he would sign elsewhere.
The bigger issue at the OLB position (at that time) was the Jarvis Jones pick. Worilds was certainly a disappointment, but I don't know that he cracks the top 5.
He was 6'8" with long arms and decent to good feet. What got him out of the league was the usage of his hands. Maybe the worst hand technique I have ever seen out of a Tackle. He refused to use them. He would drop into his set and when the PR engaged him his hands were still hovering around his waist. When you are that big with long arms you can effectively stymie many a PR with good hand usage.
Remember, he had a year with Munchak so you know that MM probably hammered him about it.
They should have made him take boxing lessons or Escrima so that he could learn hand technique and placement.
Not only was his letter to the Steelers a snow job but I believe he had no intention of being a long term NFL player. What a waste of a huge body with some athleticism.
This is my vote as well. so much talent.
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Wasn't that Pouncey in the Cleveland playoff game?langer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:51 pmDevin Bush.
And this is still being felt, they are still playing the guy even with his production. Had to get Flores in here to get him right, and that isn't happening.
The Steelers will never admit error, Kenny Green snapping the ball over Big Ben's head twice in a game didn't get him yanked.
Draft opportunities lost, as well as a lingering, festering presence on the field that combines with other stupid shit to produce losses.
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Base is pretty well covered in this thread. I’ll add to the discussion, the string of mid to late round QBs.
No shame in being a back up. Rudolph actually has a fairly decent record. But would’ve been nice to see more from these guys.
For single disappointment from me, I’d have to go claypool. Went from true impact player to actual liability on the field
No shame in being a back up. Rudolph actually has a fairly decent record. But would’ve been nice to see more from these guys.
For single disappointment from me, I’d have to go claypool. Went from true impact player to actual liability on the field
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Martavius Bryant could have been somewhere between Plaxico Burress and Randy Moss if he had even a quarter of his shit together.
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This is a tough question, because if we are totally honest, there are many correct answers for a multitude of reasons.
Bottom line, despite their posturing that they favor the model citizen type, they draft, sign and enable way too many knuckleheads.
Bottom line, despite their posturing that they favor the model citizen type, they draft, sign and enable way too many knuckleheads.
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It seems unjust that the NFL was willing to destroy Bryant's career because he couldn't stop smoking weed but is letting Deshaun Watson- a man with dozens of credible sexual assault allegations against him- back into the league with a relative slap on the wrist. Bryant was a saint compared to him.Dan Smith--BYU wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:41 pmMartavius Bryant could have been somewhere between Plaxico Burress and Randy Moss if he had even a quarter of his shit together.
As for the topic of this thread, the answer has to be Devin Bush, and it's not really even that close. The Steelers invested a ton to go up and get their next stud ILB, only to walk away with the softest ILB I have ever seen. He's the worst Steelers' draft pick of at least the last 25 years. At least the Steelers didn't trade away multiple picks to take Jervis or Artie or Ziggy or Mendenhall.
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Possibly, but if the Steelers take David in 2012 maybe they wouldn't have been in position to take Bell the next year. I'd rather have Bell and a healthy Shazier than David, and I think that if Shazier had stayed healthy the Steelers would have won in 2017. But if the Steelers would have had David and a healthy D Will in 2015 maybe they would have won that Super Bowl.JackLambert58 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 12:20 pmLots of great arguments in this thread but definitely going with Perch here. Mike Adams, the abject failure per the Fat Fuck Peter King, started the ball rolling ending up in other disappointments. I think they at least are at seven Lombardis (2017) if they took David.Steelperch wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 10:01 pmThe biggest draft mistake they made was taking Mike Adams over Lavonte David. If they don’t let his heartfelt letter about being a Steelers fan and regretting smoking weed at the combine fool them, they were poised to take David. That saves them from spending a 1st on Shazier, 3rd on Sean Spence, and 1-2-3 on Devin Bush. How much better are they over the last decade with David and all of those picks?
