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Re: George Pickens

Post by Deebo » Mon Nov 11, 2024 8:03 pm

K_C_ wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 6:10 pm
What nobody seems to be talking about is how much Pickens is going to get paid next year.

He's going to get paid in a similar manner to Jefferson, Chase, Evans, etc.

We'll see if the Steelers can keep Pickens but he's going to get a boatload of cash.
I love me some Pickens, but production wise he doesn't sniff those levels.

COULD he if he had a legit OC the prior couple of seasons? Absolutely. If Pickens had Allen throwing to him, we'd be saying he's an easy top 5 WR.
So his contract demands might be lesser than you think.



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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Mon Nov 11, 2024 10:08 pm

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I think the league unjustly ruined Bryant's career and fucked over the Steelers. As far as I know, Bryant's only problem was that he couldn't stop smoking weed. He wasn't doing hard drugs or performance enhancers, he wasn't selling drugs, he just couldn't stop smoking up. And for that, the league took away his career. He should have switched to alcohol- the league wouldn't have cared if he was an alcoholic, even though being an alcoholic is arguably worse and more destructive than being a pot head.

In a league where habitual woman beaters like Tyreek Hill get to be highly paid stars, I don't understand why Bryant wasn't allowed to play. Doesn't seem right. Plus, it might have screwed the Steelers out of a Super Bowl appearance- that 2016 team would have had a much better chance in Foxboro in the AFCC game if they had Bryant opposite of AB. Just an all-around disgrace
I thought there were other drugs involved…some cough syrup and opiate concoction?
Half the league at least probably has a pain killer dependency. Brett Favre was self-admittedly addicted to pain killers during his career. Chris Kemoeatu had to have a kidney replacement because of overuse of painkillers. Don't see why Bryant should have had his career taken away for opiods if he was using them.
Not disagreeing. Always seemed a bit draconian, which always made think there was something more.

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Post by gpclay » Mon Nov 11, 2024 10:19 pm

Late to this party and old timer-ish here (born in 1967). I did want to point out that pre-rule changes in, what was it, 1978?, the receivers were basically getting mugged all over the field. I feel like Swann and Stallworth get extra points for that. It would be interesting to see how the more modern Stillers receivers would have handled that style of play. Almost like comparing different eras of baseball. I feel like Hines Ward would have been up to the challenge.

I loved the comment that we need to find GP his Stallworth!!! Make it so!

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Post by K_C_ » Mon Nov 11, 2024 10:35 pm

Deebo wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 8:03 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 6:10 pm
What nobody seems to be talking about is how much Pickens is going to get paid next year.

He's going to get paid in a similar manner to Jefferson, Chase, Evans, etc.

We'll see if the Steelers can keep Pickens but he's going to get a boatload of cash.
I love me some Pickens, but production wise he doesn't sniff those levels.

COULD he if he had a legit OC the prior couple of seasons? Absolutely. If Pickens had Allen throwing to him, we'd be saying he's an easy top 5 WR.
So his contract demands might be lesser than you think.
While I love Justin Fields and hope the Steelers can keep him and he can learn from a possible Hall of Famer like Russ, we are all seeing what George Pickens can do with a bonafide NFL big time QB and it's.....A WHOLE FUCKING LOT.

Pickens is going to get more than Brandon Aiyuk did. I can absolutely promise you that. Pickens will get at least 30 million per. Guaranteed. Almost certainly he'll get it from the Steelers.

The guy is an absolute superstar.

I'll add that if the Steelers low ball Pickens, he'll be happy to leave or pull an Aiyuk and force their hand by holding out. Pickens is easily, by far the best offensive weapon on the team and that is by a wide, wide fucking margin. He's still young and is only entering his prime. He is going to get a massive deal and if it isn't from the Steelers, they will be forced to deal him to some team that will HAPPILY make Pickens a top 5 paid WR.

No question about it. Pickens, as you said, knows what his value would be to a team with a top QB, because we're seeing what George can do with a top QB.

Right now.
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Post by AirRescueFF » Tue Nov 12, 2024 12:06 am

He has some kind of unique screw loose in his play. It's...somewhat...hilarious.

The sidelines pass/stiff arm play.

And his predatory-like attack on the DB after the interception, versus going after the guy who picked off the ball.


Including the other times where he oddly threw around his body.

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Post by StillerDownSouth » Tue Nov 12, 2024 1:02 am

AirRescueFF wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2024 12:06 am
He has some kind of unique screw loose in his play. It's...somewhat...hilarious.

The sidelines pass/stiff arm play.

And his predatory-like attack on the DB after the interception, versus going after the guy who picked off the ball.


Including the other times where he oddly threw around his body.
Saw a video with all of his bizarre plays today, if I knew how to add it I would, my favorite was the Pickens run near the end zone when he basically threw his body a Spillane behind the play.

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Post by Riverrat » Tue Nov 12, 2024 1:39 am

For me Ab was on par catch ability or better, not only electrifying but always came down with it. He had the same thing where you didn't think he caught it until it was replayed. Others like Swann and Santonio could also get it anywhere anytime and always. I always felt Hines was the total package though and another seldom thought about guy was Louis lipps because they sucked and he had no qb

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Post by langer » Tue Nov 12, 2024 4:26 pm

Pickens doesn't lack in aggression.

Keep feeding this dude the ball.

https://x.com/_MLFootball/status/1856094152104259687
"We, as an offensive collective were off today, and certainly, he's a component of that,"

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Post by Deebo » Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:18 pm

langer wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2024 4:26 pm
Pickens doesn't lack in aggression.

Keep feeding this dude the ball.

https://x.com/_MLFootball/status/1856094152104259687
Give me these dudes who may occasionally go off the rails vs the blaise players we've been riddled with over the years.

This team needed some nasty MF's who aren't afraid to get down and dirty. Tyrone Carter, James Harrison, Kemo, etc.

I'm an unabashed Pickens fan!

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Post by langer » Wed Nov 13, 2024 1:04 am

Deebo wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:18 pm
langer wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2024 4:26 pm
Pickens doesn't lack in aggression.

Keep feeding this dude the ball.

https://x.com/_MLFootball/status/1856094152104259687
Give me these dudes who may occasionally go off the rails vs the blaise players we've been riddled with over the years.

This team needed some nasty MF's who aren't afraid to get down and dirty. Tyrone Carter, James Harrison, Kemo, etc.

I'm an unabashed Pickens fan!
Tyrone Carter almost killed Greg Olsen.

There was another hit he had that I thought paralyzed the dude, right in the middle back from behind with leverage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U62u-upwh6s
"We, as an offensive collective were off today, and certainly, he's a component of that,"

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Post by cop1211 » Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:17 am

I think Pickens will will sign elsewhere in free agency.

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Post by langer » Wed Nov 13, 2024 10:03 am

Teddy Atlas said about Mike that he might not still have that killer attitude and mentality any longer, the body might be there, at least in the first few rounds, the power doesn't leave the body, George Foreman, but is the mind still the same one that had that intent that it did when he was Mike Tyson. Teddy speaks in run-on sentences.

Pickens obviously has some killer in him, a violent disposition. He's attacking all the time.

Get him the ball. I think we see further why he was so pissed at the utterly shitty QB play. He isn't a diva. Does he get into the drugs and so forth that his predecessors did? Doesn't seem like the kind of guy to clutter his mind with weed and booze and whatever.
"We, as an offensive collective were off today, and certainly, he's a component of that,"

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Post by K_C_ » Wed Nov 13, 2024 10:23 am

cop1211 wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:17 am
I think Pickens will will sign elsewhere in free agency.
A lot has to happen before Pickens goes anywhere else in free agency.

The Steelers have control of him next season and there will be negotiations (no doubt about it) with both sides trying to get a contract done.

If the Steelers try to low ball Pickens and his reps then sure, there could be bad blood. Right now there isn't any bad blood between Pickens and the Steelers and the vast, vast majority of NFL players would love to play for Mike Tomlin, no matter how most of us feel here at Fury.

Still, the Steelers and Pickens will work towards a long term deal in the offseason and I think they'll get it done.....but he's going to be real, real expensive.

I've already said I think Pickens gets over $30 million per, for sure, with a ton of guaranteed money. No question in my mind.

Don't forget, the franchise tag is available if Pickens plays hardball.

Like I said, A LOT has to happen before Pickens goes elsewhere and I think Pickens badly wants to remain a Steeler. Go talk to other Steelers receivers about how the grass isn't always greener on the other side.

I also think the Steelers will still use a very high draft choice to add a #2 WR to help Pickens out and take some pressure off him.

Russ will be re-signed.

Pickens isn't going anywhere unless he goes off the rails AB style, which isn't out of the question.
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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:48 pm

If the Steelers don’t give Pickens whatever he wants they will lose the best football player they’ve had since Ben by far

They will lose an intimidator on par with Porter/Harrison

If the Steelers don’t sign Pickens it will be a historic fuck up on their part
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Post by zeke5123 » Wed Nov 13, 2024 7:24 pm

He is Plax with better YAC.

His YAC is funny though -- the dude appears to move in slo mo yet covers a ton of ground.

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Post by Deebo » Wed Nov 13, 2024 8:50 pm

zeke5123 wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2024 7:24 pm
He is Plax with better YAC.

His YAC is funny though -- the dude appears to move in slo mo yet covers a ton of ground.
His gait/stride is very long. If you follow hockey it's like Malkin or Lemieux. They appear to not be moving but in 2 strides and a blink of an eye they've moved from blue line to blue line

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Post by zeke5123 » Wed Nov 13, 2024 9:03 pm

Deebo wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2024 8:50 pm
zeke5123 wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2024 7:24 pm
He is Plax with better YAC.

His YAC is funny though -- the dude appears to move in slo mo yet covers a ton of ground.
His gait/stride is very long. If you follow hockey it's like Malkin or Lemieux. They appear to not be moving but in 2 strides and a blink of an eye they've moved from blue line to blue line
The difference is Malkin sorta has his gallop. You know he is doing great when he gets that gallop going. Pickens just to my eyes is unique.

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