Perch, what did Ben say? I didn’t hear or seeSteelperch wrote: ↑Thu Nov 27, 2025 6:03 pmI’ve never seen any franchise have so many former players bashing the current coaching like this. McFadden, Harrison, Essex, Ben, Clark, Colon etc.. all shit on Tomlin’s decisions this year.
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People actually buy that overpriced shit? $50 for a tee shirt?langer wrote: ↑Wed Nov 26, 2025 8:36 pmAnyone want to buy anything from the Kiya Tomlin Official Coach T collection?
https://www.kiyatomlin.us/collections/t ... collection
Embarrassing.
I had to Google where Kenny Pickett is now. I thought he was still with the Clowns. He's with the Raiders where all quarterbacks go to die.PennyBacker wrote: ↑Wed Nov 26, 2025 8:38 pmKenny Pickett found a way to win games late, even in an offense with very few playmakers. He also had only about 1 1/2 season's worth of experience. There was still growth potential there.Steeldrama wrote: ↑Wed Nov 26, 2025 8:19 pmKenny Pickett?PennyBacker wrote: ↑Wed Nov 26, 2025 8:11 pm
All that said though, Kenny Pickett showed a knack for winning games like that. When it was close at the end, he pulled through more often than not. Shame he didn't want to stick around.
You wanted Kenny Pickett??
To stick around???
Please tell me you’re just trolling, bored while visiting grandma at the home
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The national sports media actually started at the end of last season with the narrative that Tomlin might be better off with a change of scenery. They didn't criticize then like they are now.
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I love the "change of scenery" line. They don't want to call the guy out so they just pretend like he's Andy Reid leaving the Eagles.
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Here's an idea: let's not talk about Tom Brady anymore. We can talk about Aaron Rodgers since he plays for the Steelers. This season is about him, Cam Heyward, and T.J. Watt. Does Rodgers have one more run in him?PennyBacker wrote: ↑Thu Nov 27, 2025 3:33 pmSteel Bingo wrote: ↑Thu Nov 27, 2025 3:51 amBroderick Jones and Isaac Seumalo are the only O-line guys left from those days. It was both of their first years in Pittsburgh, and they were paired with several other guys who were already known to be in their last season with the Steelers.PennyBacker wrote: ↑Wed Nov 26, 2025 9:16 pm
It's puzzling what happened to cause the rift in Pittsburgh. It looked to start long before Wilson or Fields were signed. Some folks had it in for him pretty much from the beginning. In his 2nd season, he was frequently accused of bailing on clean pockets despite the fact that he was constantly under siege and frequently had to dodge at least one rusher to set up a throw.
Whatever else can be said about why it ended, he performed well enough to win more games than not, and consistently performed his best when it mattered the most at the end of games.
I remember it being hard to move you off of the immortal Mitch Trubisky as the starter in Pickett's rookie season. Guess KP was a bit better than you thought?
To win as much as he did following the legend of Big Ben, playing as a rookie behind that O-line with a free agent guard and a rookie not playing his natural position as his best linemen—that's pretty remarkable in hindsight.
Really, my biggest concern with him playing early was that he'd experience growing pains and unfairly be labeled a bust. Remember he threw 3 interceptions in his first 10 passes—not exactly a dream start.
Nonetheless, the Steelers made the move to Kenny at the right time: halftime of the 4th game that season. It was clear Trubisky wasn't going to play well under the above circumstances, but they honored their promise to give him a shot.
Funny you mention him though, since he and Pickett will go down in history along with Roethlisberger as the only Steelers QBs to ever beat Tom Brady. Pretty good company for some guys who drew a lot of ire around here.
Cam and T.J - the prevailing narrative is that professional football requires offense. Lots of offense. The Steelers have held firm in pushing back on that. The media and fans alike are ready for Heyward, Watt, and the Steelers to make a splash in the playoffs. They have full authority to wreck offensive game plans. For a lot of these other guys too, Queen, Ramsey, Highsmith, this season may be their best chance in Pittsburgh.
Reid was chased out of town for not being able to win a SB. But we have people still defending Tomlin when he hasn't even won a playoff game in 8 years.
That was after one of the worst sports collapses in modern sports history maybe all-time sports history going back thousands of years.
But of course, he was not responsible for any of it. It was someone else it was the collective.
"We, as an offensive collective were off today, and certainly, he's a component of that,"
Exactly
What do they expect to happen with Tomlin on a new team while enforcing the same control over the offense and the defense and with the same cast of shitty Tomlin connections at OC and DC.
Tomlin would STILL be the worst offensive mind in the league at HC AND he would STILL meddle in the offense.
Throw. The. Football. On. First. Down.
I would LOVE to see Tomlin take over a 3-4 win team with below average talent and no special players like a TJ or Boswell. I'd bet money that team would not improve and Tomlin would be canned within 3 years.Havoc wrote: ↑Fri Nov 28, 2025 4:57 pmWhat do they expect to happen with Tomlin on a new team while enforcing the same control over the offense and the defense and with the same cast of shitty Tomlin connections at OC and DC.
Tomlin would STILL be the worst offensive mind in the league at HC AND he would STILL meddle in the offense.
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The storylines for the superstars are there to be written. Rodgers, Heyward, and Watt are relatively easy to pick up on. Rodgers and Heyward have to still be making history, not just be a footnote to it at this point. As for Watt—if he doesn't win a playoff game in Pittsburgh this season, then when?Steel Bingo wrote: ↑Fri Nov 28, 2025 2:40 pmHere's an idea: let's not talk about Tom Brady anymore. We can talk about Aaron Rodgers since he plays for the Steelers. This season is about him, Cam Heyward, and T.J. Watt. Does Rodgers have one more run in him?PennyBacker wrote: ↑Thu Nov 27, 2025 3:33 pmSteel Bingo wrote: ↑Thu Nov 27, 2025 3:51 am
Broderick Jones and Isaac Seumalo are the only O-line guys left from those days. It was both of their first years in Pittsburgh, and they were paired with several other guys who were already known to be in their last season with the Steelers.
I remember it being hard to move you off of the immortal Mitch Trubisky as the starter in Pickett's rookie season. Guess KP was a bit better than you thought?
To win as much as he did following the legend of Big Ben, playing as a rookie behind that O-line with a free agent guard and a rookie not playing his natural position as his best linemen—that's pretty remarkable in hindsight.
Really, my biggest concern with him playing early was that he'd experience growing pains and unfairly be labeled a bust. Remember he threw 3 interceptions in his first 10 passes—not exactly a dream start.
Nonetheless, the Steelers made the move to Kenny at the right time: halftime of the 4th game that season. It was clear Trubisky wasn't going to play well under the above circumstances, but they honored their promise to give him a shot.
Funny you mention him though, since he and Pickett will go down in history along with Roethlisberger as the only Steelers QBs to ever beat Tom Brady. Pretty good company for some guys who drew a lot of ire around here.
Cam and T.J - the prevailing narrative is that professional football requires offense. Lots of offense. The Steelers have held firm in pushing back on that. The media and fans alike are ready for Heyward, Watt, and the Steelers to make a splash in the playoffs. They have full authority to wreck offensive game plans. For a lot of these other guys too, Queen, Ramsey, Highsmith, this season may be their best chance in Pittsburgh.
Offensively, there are some young players who have narratives of their own: Troy Fautanu, Zack Frazier, Mason McCormick, and Broderick Jones. The Steelers made a significant commitment to improve the OL at the beginning of the 2024 league year when they drafted TF at #20, ZF at #51, and MMcC at #119. Those three and Jones now have about a season and a half of time together, knowing they were put together for a reason. These players have to step up for the team down the stretch.
Jaylen Warren is still the best RB that casual NFL fans likely have no idea how good he is. Darnell Washington is a player and talent unlike any other the league has seen recently. Jalen Ramsey is in the process of successfully switching to safety from cornerback. There are a lot of things going for the Steelers right now, but it's still not clear which way they will finally tilt.
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Tomlin PC 1/14/25 -“‘Stuck’ is a helpless feeling. I don’t feel helpless,” Tomlin said. “I don’t know if I want to sell you an overly optimistic (tone) either.


I don’t disagree, but I don’t think Tomlin would go to that environment.Kodiak wrote: ↑Fri Nov 28, 2025 5:31 pmI would LOVE to see Tomlin take over a 3-4 win team with below average talent and no special players like a TJ or Boswell. I'd bet money that team would not improve and Tomlin would be canned within 3 years.Havoc wrote: ↑Fri Nov 28, 2025 4:57 pmWhat do they expect to happen with Tomlin on a new team while enforcing the same control over the offense and the defense and with the same cast of shitty Tomlin connections at OC and DC.
Tomlin would STILL be the worst offensive mind in the league at HC AND he would STILL meddle in the offense.
He’ll retire before he goes to a rebuild situation
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The bolded is probably the most important narrative developing for the Steelers as a franchise. Pittsburgh has to become a team which drafts guys and has them playing at a high level inside of two seasons - and then, those guys have to be able to be replaced by draft picks rather than re-signed to large C2 (2nd contract) deals. That doesn’t mean that the Steelers don’t keep a guy like Troy Polamalu or Cam Heyward, or they don’t sign a guy like James Farrior or Patrick Queen, or pick up a quality veteran leader like Jalen Ramsey for a C3, or even pay market rate for an existing starter where they don’t like the developmental future of a certain position through the draft. But it is a nod that shelling out big coin in an effort to stock the defense has produced less than convincing results, and that the path forward has to be building the team primarily through the draft rather than C2s.PennyBacker wrote: ↑Fri Nov 28, 2025 9:21 pmThe storylines for the superstars are there to be written. Rodgers, Heyward, and Watt are relatively easy to pick up on. Rodgers and Heyward have to still be making history, not just be a footnote to it at this point. As for Watt—if he doesn't win a playoff game in Pittsburgh this season, then when?Steel Bingo wrote: ↑Fri Nov 28, 2025 2:40 pmHere's an idea: let's not talk about Tom Brady anymore. We can talk about Aaron Rodgers since he plays for the Steelers. This season is about him, Cam Heyward, and T.J. Watt. Does Rodgers have one more run in him?PennyBacker wrote: ↑Thu Nov 27, 2025 3:33 pm
To win as much as he did following the legend of Big Ben, playing as a rookie behind that O-line with a free agent guard and a rookie not playing his natural position as his best linemen—that's pretty remarkable in hindsight.
Really, my biggest concern with him playing early was that he'd experience growing pains and unfairly be labeled a bust. Remember he threw 3 interceptions in his first 10 passes—not exactly a dream start.
Nonetheless, the Steelers made the move to Kenny at the right time: halftime of the 4th game that season. It was clear Trubisky wasn't going to play well under the above circumstances, but they honored their promise to give him a shot.
Funny you mention him though, since he and Pickett will go down in history along with Roethlisberger as the only Steelers QBs to ever beat Tom Brady. Pretty good company for some guys who drew a lot of ire around here.
Cam and T.J - the prevailing narrative is that professional football requires offense. Lots of offense. The Steelers have held firm in pushing back on that. The media and fans alike are ready for Heyward, Watt, and the Steelers to make a splash in the playoffs. They have full authority to wreck offensive game plans. For a lot of these other guys too, Queen, Ramsey, Highsmith, this season may be their best chance in Pittsburgh.
Offensively, there are some young players who have narratives of their own: Troy Fautanu, Zack Frazier, Mason McCormick, and Broderick Jones. The Steelers made a significant commitment to improve the OL at the beginning of the 2024 league year when they drafted TF at #20, ZF at #51, and MMcC at #119. Those three and Jones now have about a season and a half of time together, knowing they were put together for a reason. These players have to step up for the team down the stretch.
Jaylen Warren is still the best RB that casual NFL fans likely have no idea how good he is. Darnell Washington is a player and talent unlike any other the league has seen recently. Jalen Ramsey is in the process of successfully switching to safety from cornerback. There are a lot of things going for the Steelers right now, but it's still not clear which way they will finally tilt.
The O-Line is under the microscope for this narrative this season. It’ll be the D-Line next season. The QB and WR groups look like obvious need areas for next year, but who knows how that will actually develop. The Steelers are notoriously hard to predict.
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The evolution of the college game is something the most tactful NFL franchises will find a way to use to their advantage. The transfer portal adds new variables and depth when evaluating young athletes. It's possible to see which players have loyalty to a program, if that's the sort of player a team wants to stock its roster with. But at the same time, it's also possible to evaluate players who have shown maturity by successfully transitioning from one team to another.Steel Bingo wrote: ↑Sat Nov 29, 2025 2:05 pmThe bolded is probably the most important narrative developing for the Steelers as a franchise. Pittsburgh has to become a team which drafts guys and has them playing at a high level inside of two seasons - and then, those guys have to be able to be replaced by draft picks rather than re-signed to large C2 (2nd contract) deals. That doesn’t mean that the Steelers don’t keep a guy like Troy Polamalu or Cam Heyward, or they don’t sign a guy like James Farrior or Patrick Queen, or pick up a quality veteran leader like Jalen Ramsey for a C3, or even pay market rate for an existing starter where they don’t like the developmental future of a certain position through the draft. But it is a nod that shelling out big coin in an effort to stock the defense has produced less than convincing results, and that the path forward has to be building the team primarily through the draft rather than C2s.PennyBacker wrote: ↑Fri Nov 28, 2025 9:21 pmThe storylines for the superstars are there to be written. Rodgers, Heyward, and Watt are relatively easy to pick up on. Rodgers and Heyward have to still be making history, not just be a footnote to it at this point. As for Watt—if he doesn't win a playoff game in Pittsburgh this season, then when?Steel Bingo wrote: ↑Fri Nov 28, 2025 2:40 pm
Here's an idea: let's not talk about Tom Brady anymore. We can talk about Aaron Rodgers since he plays for the Steelers. This season is about him, Cam Heyward, and T.J. Watt. Does Rodgers have one more run in him?
Cam and T.J - the prevailing narrative is that professional football requires offense. Lots of offense. The Steelers have held firm in pushing back on that. The media and fans alike are ready for Heyward, Watt, and the Steelers to make a splash in the playoffs. They have full authority to wreck offensive game plans. For a lot of these other guys too, Queen, Ramsey, Highsmith, this season may be their best chance in Pittsburgh.
Offensively, there are some young players who have narratives of their own: Troy Fautanu, Zack Frazier, Mason McCormick, and Broderick Jones. The Steelers made a significant commitment to improve the OL at the beginning of the 2024 league year when they drafted TF at #20, ZF at #51, and MMcC at #119. Those three and Jones now have about a season and a half of time together, knowing they were put together for a reason. These players have to step up for the team down the stretch.
Jaylen Warren is still the best RB that casual NFL fans likely have no idea how good he is. Darnell Washington is a player and talent unlike any other the league has seen recently. Jalen Ramsey is in the process of successfully switching to safety from cornerback. There are a lot of things going for the Steelers right now, but it's still not clear which way they will finally tilt.
The O-Line is under the microscope for this narrative this season. It’ll be the D-Line next season. The QB and WR groups look like obvious need areas for next year, but who knows how that will actually develop. The Steelers are notoriously hard to predict.
NIL is another factor that's changing player evaluation, since many prospective draft picks will have been millionaires and professionals for multiple years. Once again, it may be possible to evaluate where loyalties lie for a player. Some guys are all about themselves and getting what they can get when they can get it. In a dog-eat-dog society, it's hard to fault players for wanting to look out for #1. But there may also be players who believe that everyone is more likely to accomplish more by banding together and expecting to reach their own highest level of success as a member of a collective.
The Steelers will have to continue to draft well, as they have the past two drafts—we definitely agree about that, Bingo. Maybe they won't take any of your advice when it comes to QB selection though. Looks like you bit on the massive hook that was set by the media the day before the draft. Shedeur Sanders in the first round of the Fury Mock Draft?
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Sanders is the all-time most accurate passer in NCAA history. No matter how he got there, that record is his until someone else bests it.PennyBacker wrote: ↑Sat Nov 29, 2025 10:54 pmThe evolution of the college game is something the most tactful NFL franchises will find a way to use to their advantage. The transfer portal adds new variables and depth when evaluating young athletes. It's possible to see which players have loyalty to a program, if that's the sort of player a team wants to stock its roster with. But at the same time, it's also possible to evaluate players who have shown maturity by successfully transitioning from one team to another.Steel Bingo wrote: ↑Sat Nov 29, 2025 2:05 pmThe bolded is probably the most important narrative developing for the Steelers as a franchise. Pittsburgh has to become a team which drafts guys and has them playing at a high level inside of two seasons - and then, those guys have to be able to be replaced by draft picks rather than re-signed to large C2 (2nd contract) deals. That doesn’t mean that the Steelers don’t keep a guy like Troy Polamalu or Cam Heyward, or they don’t sign a guy like James Farrior or Patrick Queen, or pick up a quality veteran leader like Jalen Ramsey for a C3, or even pay market rate for an existing starter where they don’t like the developmental future of a certain position through the draft. But it is a nod that shelling out big coin in an effort to stock the defense has produced less than convincing results, and that the path forward has to be building the team primarily through the draft rather than C2s.PennyBacker wrote: ↑Fri Nov 28, 2025 9:21 pm
The storylines for the superstars are there to be written. Rodgers, Heyward, and Watt are relatively easy to pick up on. Rodgers and Heyward have to still be making history, not just be a footnote to it at this point. As for Watt—if he doesn't win a playoff game in Pittsburgh this season, then when?
Offensively, there are some young players who have narratives of their own: Troy Fautanu, Zack Frazier, Mason McCormick, and Broderick Jones. The Steelers made a significant commitment to improve the OL at the beginning of the 2024 league year when they drafted TF at #20, ZF at #51, and MMcC at #119. Those three and Jones now have about a season and a half of time together, knowing they were put together for a reason. These players have to step up for the team down the stretch.
Jaylen Warren is still the best RB that casual NFL fans likely have no idea how good he is. Darnell Washington is a player and talent unlike any other the league has seen recently. Jalen Ramsey is in the process of successfully switching to safety from cornerback. There are a lot of things going for the Steelers right now, but it's still not clear which way they will finally tilt.
The O-Line is under the microscope for this narrative this season. It’ll be the D-Line next season. The QB and WR groups look like obvious need areas for next year, but who knows how that will actually develop. The Steelers are notoriously hard to predict.
NIL is another factor that's changing player evaluation, since many prospective draft picks will have been millionaires and professionals for multiple years. Once again, it may be possible to evaluate where loyalties lie for a player. Some guys are all about themselves and getting what they can get when they can get it. In a dog-eat-dog society, it's hard to fault players for wanting to look out for #1. But there may also be players who believe that everyone is more likely to accomplish more by banding together and expecting to reach their own highest level of success as a member of a collective.
The Steelers will have to continue to draft well, as they have the past two drafts—we definitely agree about that, Bingo. Maybe they won't take any of your advice when it comes to QB selection though. Looks like you bit on the massive hook that was set by the media the day before the draft. Shedeur Sanders in the first round of the Fury Mock Draft?
Now is not the time to talk draft or the Browns. Right now the Steelers are in first place in the AFC North and control their own fate.
Pittsburgh has a home game with a chance to beat a preseason Super Bowl contender while much of the rest of the NFL watches in the afternoon window. Now is a good time for the Steelers to prove themselves as playoff contenders.
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Alex Highsmith has no injury designation and is set to return to the field today for the Buffalo game. He, Herbig, and Watt look as primed as ever to lead a defensive charge. These are three of the best pass rushers in football. Mixing their abilities together should keep the offensive line off balance and enable them to be even more effective. Trying to block those guys in any rotation or combination should be an absolute nightmare for opposing offenses.
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Says the steeler pr botPennyBacker wrote: ↑Sun Nov 30, 2025 7:44 pmAlex Highsmith has no injury designation and is set to return to the field today for the Buffalo game. He, Herbig, and Watt look as primed as ever to lead a defensive charge. These are three of the best pass rushers in football. Mixing their abilities together should keep the offensive line off balance and enable them to be even more effective. Trying to block those guys in any rotation or combination should be an absolute nightmare for opposing offenses.
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He has already seen the plan. Take over a stacked team that may need to hear a new voice or just needs a shake up.anpsteel wrote: ↑Sat Nov 29, 2025 1:50 pmI don’t disagree, but I don’t think Tomlin would go to that environment.Kodiak wrote: ↑Fri Nov 28, 2025 5:31 pmI would LOVE to see Tomlin take over a 3-4 win team with below average talent and no special players like a TJ or Boswell. I'd bet money that team would not improve and Tomlin would be canned within 3 years.Havoc wrote: ↑Fri Nov 28, 2025 4:57 pmWhat do they expect to happen with Tomlin on a new team while enforcing the same control over the offense and the defense and with the same cast of shitty Tomlin connections at OC and DC.
Tomlin would STILL be the worst offensive mind in the league at HC AND he would STILL meddle in the offense.
He’ll retire before he goes to a rebuild situation
No way in hell he tries to build something.
From your lips to God's ears.PennyBacker wrote: ↑Sun Nov 30, 2025 7:44 pmAlex Highsmith has no injury designation and is set to return to the field today for the Buffalo game. He, Herbig, and Watt look as primed as ever to lead a defensive charge. These are three of the best pass rushers in football. Mixing their abilities together should keep the offensive line off balance and enable them to be even more effective. Trying to block those guys in any rotation or combination should be an absolute nightmare for opposing offenses.
If you pressure Josh Allen, he WILL throw passes to the wrong colored jersey. It's as simple as that.
Also, last week Caleb Williams tried to throw multiple picks to the Steelers and they didn't catch them.
When the Steelers lose, they drop INT's. They catch them today, they'll win.
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Yea the Bills were definitely scared yesterdayPennyBacker wrote: ↑Sun Nov 30, 2025 7:44 pmAlex Highsmith has no injury designation and is set to return to the field today for the Buffalo game. He, Herbig, and Watt look as primed as ever to lead a defensive charge. These are three of the best pass rushers in football. Mixing their abilities together should keep the offensive line off balance and enable them to be even more effective. Trying to block those guys in any rotation or combination should be an absolute nightmare for opposing offenses.
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…and that was down two starting Olinemen.Yea the Bills were definitely scared yesterday
This team really has a lot of soul searching to do.
I believe it starts from the owners to every player, every coach on down to the very lowest assistant staffer.
