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Post by AirRescueFF » Mon Dec 01, 2025 2:23 pm

https://x.com/BreidenFehoko/status/1995 ... 90276?s=20

On an inside run....

Washington: Strength- blocking. Send him out as a receiver.

Smith: Strength- receiving. Keep him in to block a DE.


Staff of retards.



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Post by swissvale72 » Mon Dec 01, 2025 2:32 pm

K_C_ wrote:
Mon Dec 01, 2025 12:58 pm
swissvale72 wrote:
Mon Dec 01, 2025 3:44 am
K_C_ wrote:
Mon Dec 01, 2025 12:54 am


Absolutely.

Tomlin very, very possibly could still get to 9-8 this season but it ain’t gonna be enough to save him.

Not after this.
I don't think there's any way Tomins NOT back...but 9-8 and a playoff berth and hes golden
Gotta strongly disagree with you on this one, Swiss and I strongly respect your fandom.

Sure, it's possible Tomlin gets this team to 9-8. The remaining schedule only includes one guaranteed loss (the Lions.)

....but folks don't care about NHALS anymore. There are no Tomlin defenders left. IF (and now this has become a very big if) the Steelers somehow luck themselves into a Wild Card playoff game, they're gonna get killed. You know it and I know it. They can't stop the run and Arthur Smith's offense has me wishing for the days of Matt Canada. I never thought I'd ever write those words but it's true.

9-8, which is now probably less than a 50% proposition, ain't saving Mike Tomlin. He will be booed relentlessly at home from now on, win or lose. It's over. There will be no postseason run and while making the postseason is possible, I sure wouldn't call it likely.

Like you, I would never root for losses but it doesn't matter anymore if you and I don't root for losses. The losses are going to keep piling up with Mike Tomlin in charge. His caveman style of football has finally bottomed out. It's been figured out. This is a bad football team and it starts at the top.

Tomlin isn't stupid though. I think he will head on out the door before it gets even uglier.....and it will.
Here's the thing, KC. I'm not PREDICTING 9-8, but rather that 9-8 and a playoff berth will have him as tight with Rooney as ever. And even if he loses out, hes only gone if he wants to be. Maybe both coordinators go, but Tomlin remains. Rooney Rule Rooney isn't going to jettison the guy after one losing season...again, unless Tomlin wants to.

And B2B, they lose in Baltimore this weekend and the Norf can easily still come down to the Jan 4 finale at Acrisure. See the Ravens schedule? They could lose out as easily as Steelers.

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Post by .Kodiak » Mon Dec 01, 2025 2:51 pm

Yeah, unfortunately Tomlin has two years left on his contract for $40M.

9-8 and playoffs or not isn't going to be enough for Rooney to pull that trigger for $40M. 9-8 is just another "awww, shucks, we were right there if the ball bounces the other way in one or two games"

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Post by Steelafan77 » Mon Dec 01, 2025 3:07 pm

Knowing the soft lazy piss poor management style of the current Rooney in charge he will simply allow the contract to expire.

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Post by Steelafan77 » Mon Dec 01, 2025 3:25 pm

Something you never want to read as a Steeler fan.
Bills had specific plan on how to attack Steelers' run D. James Cook said it was to test the CBs.

They’re one of the worst tackling corner (groups) in the NFL. Just try to get the ball on the edge. We did a pretty good job today.”

Below screams of poor play calling and incompetence by a staff that continuously plays not to lose and still loses. :lol:
You want to start talking philosophical? Is that what you want? It was third-and-9, and they brought pressure off that side. We had a run called. We checked the blocking. And we had a chance,” Rodgers said. “If that thing hits, no one says a (gosh darned) thing. If we block on the front side, on the perimeter, everybody is blocked up. We’ve got to sustain those blocks on the outside, Kenny gets a first down, and no one says a (darned) thing.”

The problem, Aaron, is that running for 9 yards on third down is a long way to go, even if it is blocked up properly. Eight yards is a pretty good run at any time. You needed nine. You got eight
https://forumsnew.sportsandshit.com/pos ... =2&t=24865
Again, the homersyndrome local moron-lapdawg media blaming the Jonny’s/Joe’s instead of the boneheaded playcall. A Run play on 3rd and 9?

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Post by K_C_ » Mon Dec 01, 2025 4:21 pm

swissvale72 wrote:
Mon Dec 01, 2025 2:32 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Mon Dec 01, 2025 12:58 pm
swissvale72 wrote:
Mon Dec 01, 2025 3:44 am


I don't think there's any way Tomins NOT back...but 9-8 and a playoff berth and hes golden
Gotta strongly disagree with you on this one, Swiss and I strongly respect your fandom.

Sure, it's possible Tomlin gets this team to 9-8. The remaining schedule only includes one guaranteed loss (the Lions.)

....but folks don't care about NHALS anymore. There are no Tomlin defenders left. IF (and now this has become a very big if) the Steelers somehow luck themselves into a Wild Card playoff game, they're gonna get killed. You know it and I know it. They can't stop the run and Arthur Smith's offense has me wishing for the days of Matt Canada. I never thought I'd ever write those words but it's true.

9-8, which is now probably less than a 50% proposition, ain't saving Mike Tomlin. He will be booed relentlessly at home from now on, win or lose. It's over. There will be no postseason run and while making the postseason is possible, I sure wouldn't call it likely.

Like you, I would never root for losses but it doesn't matter anymore if you and I don't root for losses. The losses are going to keep piling up with Mike Tomlin in charge. His caveman style of football has finally bottomed out. It's been figured out. This is a bad football team and it starts at the top.

Tomlin isn't stupid though. I think he will head on out the door before it gets even uglier.....and it will.
Here's the thing, KC. I'm not PREDICTING 9-8, but rather that 9-8 and a playoff berth will have him as tight with Rooney as ever. And even if he loses out, hes only gone if he wants to be. Maybe both coordinators go, but Tomlin remains. Rooney Rule Rooney isn't going to jettison the guy after one losing season...again, unless Tomlin wants to.

And B2B, they lose in Baltimore this weekend and the Norf can easily still come down to the Jan 4 finale at Acrisure. See the Ravens schedule? They could lose out as easily as Steelers.
This team could seriously just as easily lose out, as it could luck into 9-8 and another Wildcard playoff ass beating. The former has a better chance of happening than the latter.

It’s over for Mike Tomlin. Much like Russell Wilson, the longer Mike Tomlin walks out on that field each Sunday, the worse his resume looks. Now we’re at the fanbase revolting against Tomlin stage. 9-8 MAY save his job but after another postseason ass beating, Tomlin’s legacy just keeps looking worse.

Again if Tomlin lucks into 9-8 and returns, next season will be a much bigger disaster than this one for him. If the Steelers finish 7-10 or close to that and miss the playoffs, he’s done in Pittsburgh. Both parties will either agree that a change of scenery is necessary or Tomlin will retire to the broadcast booth.

The Tomlin era is coming to an end in Pittsburgh. Tomlin’s contract will not matter. Penn State initially paid James Franklin 50 million to walk away until the terms changed some once he landed at West Virginia. Tomlin and the Steelers will work out some sort of compromise but Tomlin is 100% done in Pittsburgh barring a miracle finish that isn’t going to happen.
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Post by jeemie » Mon Dec 01, 2025 4:57 pm

9-8 is still a possibility.

A split with Baltimore is doable and then wins against Miami and Cleveland would get nine wins.

And that might get the division.

I can't see the Bengals winning out, and the Ravens have a tough schedule left.

So this isn't rock bottom.

NHALs continuing with a playoff beating is rock bottom because while I generally agree the Tomlin Era is coming to an end, NHALs will draw that ending out.
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Post by gojira5150 » Mon Dec 01, 2025 5:20 pm

Steelperch wrote:
Mon Dec 01, 2025 3:53 am
swissvale72 wrote:
Mon Dec 01, 2025 3:40 am
Steelperch wrote:
Mon Dec 01, 2025 12:48 am
Rooney is gonna extend Tomlin this off-season. We’ve got further to fall. The ballwashers will still be here talking playoff scenarios. :lol:
You continue to confuse talking playoff scenarios with ball-washing. One can believe Tomlin to be a fuckin idiot and understand that playoffs remain a distinct possibility
You’ve got to be fucking kidding me. Why would anyone want this team to make the playoffs? They’re a miserable leaderless mess that can’t run or pass or stop the run or the pass. If the rest of the division implodes and they back into the playoffs, they will get embarrassed and outcoached as they always do. All that does is equal worse draft positioning and more likelihood Rooney keeps the charade with Tomlin going.

There is literally nothing good that can come from making the playoffs. Absolutely nothing! They have a 0.0% chance of winning the AFC or Super Bowl and about the same chance of winning a single playoff game. Why talk about playoff chances or root for them to make it?
Oh, I disagree whole heartedly. The WC beatdown/demolition will put Jibba in the same stratosphere as perennial LOSER Marvin Lewis as the only 2 HC to lose 8 straight PO games. I kinda want to see Jibba's face in the closing minutes of a 42-12 Curb Stomping
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Post by Steelperch » Mon Dec 01, 2025 5:36 pm

gojira5150 wrote:
Mon Dec 01, 2025 5:20 pm
Steelperch wrote:
Mon Dec 01, 2025 3:53 am
swissvale72 wrote:
Mon Dec 01, 2025 3:40 am


You continue to confuse talking playoff scenarios with ball-washing. One can believe Tomlin to be a fuckin idiot and understand that playoffs remain a distinct possibility
You’ve got to be fucking kidding me. Why would anyone want this team to make the playoffs? They’re a miserable leaderless mess that can’t run or pass or stop the run or the pass. If the rest of the division implodes and they back into the playoffs, they will get embarrassed and outcoached as they always do. All that does is equal worse draft positioning and more likelihood Rooney keeps the charade with Tomlin going.

There is literally nothing good that can come from making the playoffs. Absolutely nothing! They have a 0.0% chance of winning the AFC or Super Bowl and about the same chance of winning a single playoff game. Why talk about playoff chances or root for them to make it?
Oh, I disagree whole heartedly. The WC beatdown/demolition will put Jibba in the same stratosphere as perennial LOSER Marvin Lewis as the only 2 HC to lose 8 straight PO games. I kinda want to see Jibba's face in the closing minutes of a 42-12 Curb Stomping
I can respect that reasoning. Unfortunately that makes Rooney more money and increases the odds he keeps Tomlin. I think it’s in our hands now. Fans have to make Tomlin so uncomfortable he retires or asks for a trade. I might have to go Tommy Maddox his yard.

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Post by langer » Mon Dec 01, 2025 5:53 pm

How are ticket sales for the Monday nighter?

Not that good!

Keep up the pressure, don't listen to the delusional Kool-Aid drinkers.

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Post by Steeldrama » Mon Dec 01, 2025 6:03 pm

langer wrote:
Mon Dec 01, 2025 5:53 pm
How are ticket sales for the Monday nighter?

Not that good!

Keep up the pressure, don't listen to the delusional Kool-Aid drinkers.

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Post by 955876 » Mon Dec 01, 2025 7:55 pm

swissvale72 wrote:
Mon Dec 01, 2025 3:44 am
K_C_ wrote:
Mon Dec 01, 2025 12:54 am
LakecrestSteeler wrote:
Mon Dec 01, 2025 12:51 am


Do you really believe this or just sarcasm?

I think this really was the dam breaking for Tomlin getting fired, pushed out, told to move on with his life’s work at the end of the season.
Absolutely.

Tomlin very, very possibly could still get to 9-8 this season but it ain’t gonna be enough to save him.

Not after this.
I don't think there's any way Tomins NOT back...but 9-8 and a playoff berth and hes golden
Which is why those who care more about the direction of this franchise than they do about “one extra week of football” chooses to enjoy the losses oh so much more than an extra meaningless win or two here & there.

I hope the Ravens hang another 300 yards rushing on this defense.

Please oh please let it happen.
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Post by Jizz Mop » Mon Dec 01, 2025 8:22 pm

Whatever the prop bet is for Henry rushing yards….

Bet the over

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