2nd Rd Pick - Sean Davis SS Maryand

[steeljersey]

Steelers need help in the secondary.

Steelers draft 2 DB's in the first 2 rounds.

Heads explode.........bed wetters wet bed.

This.

[Legacy User]

when's the last time, in your lifetime, we had the 8th overall pick??

The Ravens FUCKING SUCK and you want us to be like them?

I think he's talking about the extra 4th RND'ers they picked up. The rats Have 5. Yes, (5) 4th RND picks which is uncommon to say the least.

I know what he's saying -

And I'm responding

It's easier to trade back when you have a bunch of high picks. Pretty fucking simple point. Browns are doing the same thing.

Much harder to do when you're drafting 25 and 60. That's typically where we draft, and that's why we don't trade back very often.

We focus on guys we want, and we go get them. Trading back isn't something we do.

The teams that trade back are often bereft of talent and need to inject lots of players into the roster. Browns and Ravens are definitely in that position, so trading back makes good sense for them. Their rosters suck.

[Steelafan77]

https://twitter.com/Bischoff_Scott/stat ... 8495184896

Knee injury scaring teams off.

Thanks smith I was not aware of any injury.

[alancac98]

Would you know trade the thrid and another pick to move back into the second for a chance at Billings - Mean Joe Green loved the kid!

[jeemie]

Would you know trade the thrid and another pick to move back into the second for a chance at Billings - Mean Joe Green loved the kid!

We're deep in the third round and Billings is still on the board, is he not?

[Legacy User]

Seems like a lot of guys want Hargraves over Billings

[Legacy User]

Damn. I was kinda hoping the Steelers would take a shot at Braxton Miller.

[955876]

Davis lead all DB's at the combine with 21 reps

Beat Jarvis too. Barnaby might want to get his lifting in away from the DBs from now on.

[Legacy User]

when's the last time, in your lifetime, we had the 8th overall pick??

The Ravens FUCKING SUCK and you want us to be like them?

I think he's talking about the extra 4th RND'ers they picked up. The rats Have 5. Yes, (5) 4th RND picks which is uncommon to say the least.

I know what he's saying -

And I'm responding

It's easier to trade back when you have a bunch of high picks. Pretty fucking simple point. Browns are doing the same thing.

Much harder to do when you're drafting 25 and 60. That's typically where we draft, and that's why we don't trade back very often.

We focus on guys we want, and we go get them. Trading back isn't something we do.

The teams that trade back are often bereft of talent and need to inject lots of players into the roster. Browns and Ravens are definitely in that position, so trading back makes good sense for them. Their rosters suck.

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/bill- ... -patriots/

[randomsteelerfan]

Steelers need help in the secondary.

Steelers draft 2 DB's in the first 2 rounds.

Heads explode.........bed wetters wet bed.

Exactly!

Missing the point. Fine w the positions selected and almost ok with the selections.

They could have gotten those players later than their actual selections. Pick up a pick here and there.

That's all I'm saying.

What's laughable is that you make these statements like you know what the fuck you're talking about. When, in reality, you have zero fucking clue whether trading back would have been an option or whether these players would be available later or really anything. It's quite funny to read.

[FC]

Easy breakdown for me.

Very smart on and off the field.
Super High character
Great measurables
3 year starter
He is a little stiff for corner

Biggest issue is missed tackles. Very willing hitter. He has some TP in him going for the kill shot

The Steelers secondary could be very fast this season...Steelers may have one of the quickest defenses in the NFL

[COR-TEN]

The teams that trade back are often bereft of talent and need to inject lots of players into the roster. Browns and Ravens are definitely in that position, so trading back makes good sense for them. Their rosters suck.

I was gonna say the same. Steelers have needs, and they are going after the needs with a snipers rifle, not a shotgun. I'm certain they feel confident in their roster depth, and have enough competition to complete the 53 and PS at the positions that need help.

When, in reality, [you] have zero fucking clue whether trading back would have been an option or whether these players would be available later or really anything. It's quite funny to read.

Too much negotiating, setting smokescreens, and jockeying for position during the draft process that we aren't aware of. Not to mention how the coaching staff feels about who is currently on the roster. Inside information, etc.

I also didn't realize will allen is gone. Is he?

[Jobu]

I also didn't realize will allen is gone. Is he?

He is a FA. AFAIK, he hasn't signed anywhere, so the possibility exists that he could be brought back, I guess.

[the-other-burg]

I never understood the trading back philosophy in later rounds. Granted if you can trade back on a first rounder for a total coup, I get it. But trading back a few spots in the second round for an additional 4th or 5th rounder (which is likely the best you would do) I don't get. The odds for success aren't favorable. The way I see it, there is a higher chance that the guy you really wanted doesn't slip, than there is in the extra pick you get having any impact.

[FC]

I never understood the trading back philosophy in later rounds. Granted if you can trade back on a first rounder for a total coup, I get it. But trading back a few spots in the second round for an additional 4th or 5th rounder (which is likely the best you would do) I don't get. The odds for success aren't favorable. The way I see it, there is a higher chance that the guy you really wanted doesn't slip, than there is in the extra pick you get having any impact.

This is not meant to be rude or wise ass.

You have a bear running at you.

Would you rather have 2 or 3 bullets.

[the-other-burg]

I never understood the trading back philosophy in later rounds. Granted if you can trade back on a first rounder for a total coup, I get it. But trading back a few spots in the second round for an additional 4th or 5th rounder (which is likely the best you would do) I don't get. The odds for success aren't favorable. The way I see it, there is a higher chance that the guy you really wanted doesn't slip, than there is in the extra pick you get having any impact.

This is not meant to be rude or wise ass.

You have a bear running at you.

Would you rather have 2 or 3 bullets.

I get what your saying, but my point is that if there is a guy you really want that fills a glaring need, and he is available, why take the chance that you wont get him for an extra shot at a reach in a later round.

[steelclan]

I never understood the trading back philosophy in later rounds. Granted if you can trade back on a first rounder for a total coup, I get it. But trading back a few spots in the second round for an additional 4th or 5th rounder (which is likely the best you would do) I don't get. The odds for success aren't favorable. The way I see it, there is a higher chance that the guy you really wanted doesn't slip, than there is in the extra pick you get having any impact.

This is not meant to be rude or wise ass.

You have a bear running at you.

Would you rather have 2 or 3 bullets.

Sure but sometimes it depends where those bullets are. I want chances in rounds that statistically have more chance of producing impact players. The fall off to rounds after the 3rd is large and it is in the 4th were I stop paying attention to pundits or anyone else that calls a pick a reach. Given the success of players in the 4th and beyond, reach to me becomes meaningless. Calling a player that doesn't make it who was taken in the 4th a bust also becomes a bit hard to fathom. Based purely on hit rate in that round close to 90% of 4th rounders are busts. So again a well worn word in draft circles becomes frankly meaningless.

[lifelongsteel]

I think we could have gotten Bell and Tuitt 5-6 picks later. Should have traded down.

[Legacy User]

I think we could have gotten Bell and Tuitt 5-6 picks later. Should have traded down.

well played sir...

[Legacy User]

also, regarding the possibility of obtaining Burns at the end of Round 1 and the possible trade down with Denver, I read that KC was looking for a CB -- and after we chose Burns, they decided to trade down since no CBs were available that merited the 26th pick on their board

Point is, there's a good chance Burns isn't there at 31 - so why would the steelers risk the move down and miss their guy? for an extra 4th rounder?

too many people ASSUME that their guy will be there 5 , 8, 14 picks later -- that's just a bad assumption

[lifelongsteel]

Whenever i hear "we do what we do", my initial thought is HELL YES!

[steelclan]

From scouts board: "ECboy wrote: Bell is built like a 16 year-old Japanese boy."

[Jobu]

I never understood the trading back philosophy in later rounds. Granted if you can trade back on a first rounder for a total coup, I get it. But trading back a few spots in the second round for an additional 4th or 5th rounder (which is likely the best you would do) I don't get. The odds for success aren't favorable. The way I see it, there is a higher chance that the guy you really wanted doesn't slip, than there is in the extra pick you get having any impact.

This is not meant to be rude or wise ass.

You have a bear running at you.

Would you rather have 2 or 3 bullets.

Would you rather have two .357 magnums, or a 9mm and two 22s?

[Steelafan77]

Would you rather have two .357 magnums, or a 9mm and two 22s?

44 Magnum

[Jobu]

Would you rather have two .357 magnums, or a 9mm and two 22s?

44 Magnum

Sweet revolver, 77! Is it yours?

[Steelafan77]

No sir. It is a very nice pistol though. I'm kinda private about what I do have and rather not make public through picture or font. Believe me though the bear would be wise to turn and run away though.

[Legacy User]

Davis lead all DB's at the combine with 21 reps

Beat Jarvis too. Barnaby might want to get his lifting in away from the DBs from now on.

*scratches head?

who's Barnaby?

I initially thought you meant Jervis, but then you talked about lifting and I realized you must be talking about somebody else

[Jobu]

No sir. It is a very nice pistol though. I'm kinda private about what I do have and rather not make public through picture or font. Believe me though the bear would be wise to turn and run away though.

Understood...on both accounts.

[955876]

No sir. It is a very nice pistol though. I'm kinda private about what I do have and rather not make public through picture or font. Believe me though the bear would be wise to turn and run away though.

Have you seen the Revenant? Bear attack scene?

That first shot had better real real well placed. Even with a .44 mag.

Otherwise....

[955876]

Davis lead all DB's at the combine with 21 reps

Beat Jarvis too. Barnaby might want to get his lifting in away from the DBs from now on.

*scratches head?

who's Barnaby?

I initially thought you meant Jervis, but then you talked about lifting and I realized you must be talking about somebody else

Oh I meant Jervis.

Barnaby Jones was a TV series in the 70s I believe.

Jervis plays at a speed I'd expect from Barnaby. Google it. You'll understand.