Oh dear gawd...Bince and Dobbs return

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Oh dear gawd...Bince and Dobbs return

Post by Jobu » Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:04 pm



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Post by Steelperch » Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:17 pm

Vince is very good at what he does. Can’t be mad at him coming back.

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Post by Kodiak » Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:18 pm

I think Colbert may just be going thru the motions at this point, too.

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Post by Jizz Mop » Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:19 pm

Is Dobbs heading up the Rooney’s space exploration side biz?

Hear they teamed up w Branson.

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Post by K_C_ » Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:20 pm

And Dobbs will fight it out with Haskins for the 3rd string job.

I'd advise Haskins to play well. Dobbs may not be an NFL starting level QB, but he always looks good in the preseason and in camp.
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Post by tbsteel » Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:23 pm

Filling out the roster as they do every single year before the draft for bare minimum $. And Vince is a quality player and good at his role. Shouldn't affect their draft plans at all.
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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:25 pm

Steelperch wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:17 pm
Vince is very good at what he does. Can’t be mad at him coming back.
Truth from the oracle SP 8-)
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Post by Jizz Mop » Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:25 pm

Bush and Spillane starters?

Or

Bush and Vince the starters?

Hmmmmm

Assuming Bush is ready to go to start season

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Post by Jobu » Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:58 pm

Steelperch wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:17 pm
Vince is very good at what he does. Can’t be mad at him coming back.
What is it that he does very good? And please don’t say run stopping, because he really doesn’t.
Remember...this is a guy that took a seat to Mark Barron two seasons ago.
The great Bince may be the most overrated, by Steelers fans, Steelers player of all time.
So yes...I’m mad that he’s back. This team just can’t and won’t let go of mediocrity.
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Post by Kodiak » Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:00 pm

K_C_ wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:20 pm
And Dobbs will fight it out with Haskins for the 3rd string job.
Those two will be fighting it out to be starting QB in 2022.
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Post by 955876 » Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:02 pm

In other news, Mike Adams, KenDoll Simmons, and Chris Kemoeotu were brought back to “bolster” the oline.
Jibba Jabber’s offense hasn’t scored more than 7 1st quarter points in 85 consecutive games. An NFL record by far. A historic amount of “easin in”. We are lucky to have him.

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Post by stillthere » Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:02 pm

Kodiak wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:00 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:20 pm
And Dobbs will fight it out with Haskins for the 3rd string job.
Those two will be fighting it out to be starting QB in 2022.
Unless Ben comes back.

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Post by K_C_ » Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:08 pm

Kodiak wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:00 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:20 pm
And Dobbs will fight it out with Haskins for the 3rd string job.
Those two will be fighting it out to be starting QB in 2022.
I know folks don't like Rudolph, but he'll be Ben's successor until the first round QB they take in the 2022 draft will be up to speed.

You'll see.

There's a very good chance neither Dobbs or Haskins will be on the roster in a year.
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Post by K_C_ » Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:09 pm

stillthere wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:02 pm
Kodiak wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:00 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:20 pm
And Dobbs will fight it out with Haskins for the 3rd string job.
Those two will be fighting it out to be starting QB in 2022.
Unless Ben comes back.
I wouldn't put much cash on that happening.
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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:11 pm

K_C_ wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:09 pm
stillthere wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:02 pm
Kodiak wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:00 pm


Those two will be fighting it out to be starting QB in 2022.
Unless Ben comes back.
I wouldn't put much cash on that happening.
I bet Ben signs a multiyear deal next year
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Post by Steelperch » Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:14 pm

If Vince took a big pay cut a month ago you guys would’ve thought it was a good move to get under the cap. They cut him and his $6 million cap hit and signed him back for probably 1/3 for that. Now it’s a bad move by a franchise destined for mediocrity and Colbert mailed it in. Williams is a tone setter. Very tough run defender. Good blitzer. You won’t find many ILBs in the NFL that do those things as well as him. Carry on.

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Post by 955876 » Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:17 pm

Williams is a tone setter. Very tough run defender. Good blitzer. You won’t find many ILBs in the NFL that do those things as well as him. Carry on.
We need some toughness up the middle.

We also need our coaches to stop allowing the offense to put WRs etc on him.
Jibba Jabber’s offense hasn’t scored more than 7 1st quarter points in 85 consecutive games. An NFL record by far. A historic amount of “easin in”. We are lucky to have him.

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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:19 pm

Steelperch wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:14 pm
If Vince took a big pay cut a month ago you guys would’ve thought it was a good move to get under the cap. They cut him and his $6 million cap hit and signed him back for probably 1/3 for that. Now it’s a bad move by a franchise destined for mediocrity and Colbert mailed it in. Williams is a tone setter. Very tough run defender. Good blitzer. You won’t find many ILBs in the NFL that do those things as well as him. Carry on.
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Post by Minkah'n Big Plays » Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:33 pm

So Browns sign Clowney and we resign Vince Williams?

Not only a grand slam on this years draft, but basically we need to hope for every starter to stay on the field all year.

Seems way more teams are getting better than getting worse...more and more it seems like the ceiling is getting lower and lower.

Is there anyone who wants a franchise LT or another EDGE in the first round, someone we can keep around hopefully for a couple contracts instead of letting Williams, Harris or Etienne go after 4 + a 5th year messy type contract that you don't want to get into with a RB.

Just seems like a RB in 2nd or 3rd is more optimal. Than maybe a C in 3 or 4 with all of the depth.

Edit: Notice i listed Williams first? That's because he's gonna be the best NFL back of the 3. ;)

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Post by Jobu » Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:37 pm

So Browns sign Clowney and we resign Vince Williams?
Clowney??? Meh!
Edit: Notice i listed Williams first? That's because he's gonna be the best NFL back of the 3. ;)
Agreed.
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Post by K_C_ » Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:39 pm

SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:11 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:09 pm
stillthere wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:02 pm


Unless Ben comes back.
I wouldn't put much cash on that happening.
I bet Ben signs a multiyear deal next year
Don't bet your Amish horse drawn carriage.

You'll lose it.
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Post by Kodiak » Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:41 pm

K_C_ wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:08 pm
There's a very good chance neither Dobbs or Haskins will be on the roster in a year.
Better chance Rudolph won't be. He's UFA after this year. CFL bound, maybe.
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Post by Havoc » Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:43 pm

As Perch stated, we cut VWill and resigned him for less. I'm good with that.

I'm not ready to declare this a sunk ship for next season.

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Post by Minkah'n Big Plays » Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:47 pm

Jobu wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:37 pm
So Browns sign Clowney and we resign Vince Williams?
Clowney??? Meh!
Edit: Notice i listed Williams first? That's because he's gonna be the best NFL back of the 3. ;)
Agreed.
He's been pretty durable besides last year.

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Post by Kodiak » Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:48 pm

Havoc wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:43 pm
As Perch stated, we cut VWill and resigned him for less. I'm good with that.

I'm not ready to declare this a sunk ship for next season.
With PMT at the helm, the only question is when and how badly we get embarassed in the playoffs.

If we even make the playoffs. Depending on when BAL or CLE gives everyone the blueprint to roll over PMT's schemes.
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Post by K_C_ » Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:03 pm

Kodiak wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:41 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:08 pm
There's a very good chance neither Dobbs or Haskins will be on the roster in a year.
Better chance Rudolph won't be. He's UFA after this year. CFL bound, maybe.
I'd make a wager Rudolph is on the roster.

They trust Rudolph. He's never been cut. He'll come cheap. He knows the system. He was what, a 3rd round draft choice?

Haskins was cut by a bad football team and has character issues. Dobbs has been cut numerous times.

Yeah, with Roethlisberger very likely headed out the door after 2020, I'll bet Rudolph is most certainly on the roster next year.

Either as the #1 guy, or as a back up to the first rounder who'll be expected to be Ben's successor.
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Post by Steelperch » Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:09 pm

Minkah'n Big Plays wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:33 pm
So Browns sign Clowney and we resign Vince Williams?
Williams has more sacks over the last two years so I’m good with it. Clowney is an overrated China doll.

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Post by COR-TEN » Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:10 pm

When paired with an effective coverage LB, bince is an effective ILB. Knows how to plug running holes. Left alone or with coverage responsibilities, fughetaboutit.
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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:13 pm

COR-TEN wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:10 pm
When paired with an effective coverage LB, bince is an effective ILB. Knows how to plug running holes. Left alone or with coverage responsibilities, fughetaboutit.
false....hes actually fair covering some TEs and RBs on certain routes
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Post by Charles Demarr » Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:31 pm

Surprising anyone is mad Vince is being brought back at a reduced rate. I love it.

Dobbs is competition for Haskins. Who cares...

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