HOF Nominees

[Deebo]

Harrison up for election;

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/346 ... e-nominees

[DP39]

Goofdell will now continue extracting his pound of flesh from Harrison -- if James even cares about getting in, that is.

[Deebo]

Goofdell will now continue extracting his pound of flesh from Harrison -- if James even cares about getting in, that is.

Did you notice in the article that Harrison was buried at the bottom? Tell me the media doesn't influence this stuff...

[DP39]

Goofdell will now continue extracting his pound of flesh from Harrison -- if James even cares about getting in, that is.

Did you notice in the article that Harrison was buried at the bottom? Tell me the media doesn't influence this stuff...

I did. And yes, they do.

[SteelerDayTrader]

Modern Era

QUARTERBACKS (6): Randall Cunningham, Jake Delhomme, Jeff Garcia, Dave Krieg, Donovan McNabb, Steve McNair.

RUNNING BACKS (17): Shaun Alexander, Mike Alstott (FB), Tiki Barber, Larry Centers (FB), Corey Dillon, Warrick Dunn, Eddie George, Priest Holmes, Steven Jackson, Chris Johnson, Vonta Leach (FB), Jamal Lewis, Lorenzo Neal (FB), Eric Metcalf (also WR/PR/KR), Fred Taylor, Ricky Watters, Brian Westbrook.

WIDE RECEIVERS (20): Anquan Boldin, Troy Brown (also PR/KR), Donald Driver, Henry Ellard (also PR), Irving Fryar, *Devin Hester (also PR/KR), *Torry Holt, Joe Horn, Chad Johnson, *Andre Johnson, Derrick Mason, Muhsin Muhammad, Andre Rison, Jimmy Smith, Rod Smith, Steve Smith Sr., Hines Ward, *Reggie Wayne, Wes Welker, Roddy White.

TIGHT ENDS (3): Dallas Clark, Ben Coates, Wesley Walls.

OFFENSIVE LINEMEN (21): *Willie Anderson (T), Matt Birk (C), Lomas Brown (T), Ruben Brown (G), Jahri Evans (G), D’Brickashaw Ferguson (T), Kevin Glover (C/G), Jordan Gross (T), Olin Kreutz (C), Nick Mangold (C), Logan Mankins (G), Tom Nalen (C), Nate Newton (G/T), Jeff Saturday (C), Mark Schlereth (G/C), Chris Snee (G), Joe Thomas (T), Brian Waters (G), Richmond Webb (T), Erik Williams (T), Steve Wisniewski (G).

DEFENSIVE LINEMEN (14): John Abraham (DE, also LB), *Jared Allen (DE), Dwight Freeney (DE), La’Roi Glover (DT/NT), Casey Hampton (DT/NT), Robert Mathis (DE), Leslie O’Neal (DE), Simeon Rice (DE), Clyde Simmons (DE/DT), Justin Smith (DE), Neil Smith (DE), Justin Tuck (DE), Vince Wilfork (DT/NT), Kevin Williams (DT/DE).

LINEBACKERS (17): Jessie Armstead, Cornelius Bennett, NaVorro Bowman, Lance Briggs, Chad Brown, Tedy Bruschi, James Farrior, London Fletcher, James Harrison, Seth Joyner, Willie McGinest (also DE), Takeo Spikes, Pat Swilling (also DE), *Zach Thomas, *DeMarcus Ware, *Patrick Willis, Al Wilson.

DEFENSIVE BACKS (19): Eric Allen (CB), *Ronde Barber (CB/S), Dre’ Bly (CB), Kam Chancellor (S), Nick Collins (S), Antonio Cromartie (CB), Merton Hanks (S), Rodney Harrison (S), Albert Lewis (CB), Terry McDaniel (CB), Tim McDonald (S), Darrelle Revis (CB), Allen Rossum (CB), Asante Samuel (CB), Bob Sanders (S), Charles Tillman (CB), Troy Vincent (CB), Adrian Wilson (S), Darren Woodson (S).

PUNTERS/KICKERS (10): Gary Anderson (K), Jason Elam (K), Jeff Feagles (P), Jason Hanson (K), John Kasay, (K), Sean Landeta (P), Shane Lechler (P), Ryan Longwell (K), Pat McAfee (P), Matt Turk (P).

SPECIAL TEAMS (2): Josh Cribbs (KR/PR also WR), Brian Mitchell (KR/PR also RB).

[SteelerDayTrader]

SENIORS (12)

Ken Anderson (Quarterback, 1971-1986): A four-time pro-bowler who started at quarterback for the Cincinnati Bengals from 1971-1986. Was named MVP of the League in 1981 and led the NFL in passing yards twice (1974, 1975.)

Maxie Baughan (Linebacker, 1960-1970, 1974): A nine-time Pro-Bowler, Baughan played linebacker for the Philadelphia Eagles (1960-65), the Los Angeles Rams (1966-1970) and the Washington Redskins (1974).

Randy Gradishar (Linebacker, 1974-1983): Centerpiece of the “Orange Crush Defense,” Gradishar played all 10 seasons as linebacker for the Denver Broncos, seven of which were Pro Bowl-caliber years.

Chuck Howley (Linebacker, 1958-59, 1961-1973): Being the only player on a losing team to win Super Bowl MVP (Super Bowl VI), Howley received six Pro Bowl selections and five first-team All-Pro selections while playing for the Chicago Bears (1958-59) and the Dallas Cowboys (1961-1973).

Cecil Isbell (Tailback/Defensive Back/Halfback, 1938-1942): Of Isbell’s five playing years with the Green Bay Packers (1938-1942), he had four Pro Bowl appearances.

Joe Klecko (Defensive End/Defensive Tackle/Nose Tackle, 1977-1988): A member of the famed “New York Sack Exchange,” this defensive powerhouse had four Pro Bowl selections and two first-team All-Pro honors in his 12-year NFL career, all spent with the New York Jets.

Bob Kuechenberg (Guard/Tackle/Center, 1970-1983): A member of the Miami Dolphins Hall of Fame and a six-time Pro Bowler, Kuechenberg spent the entirety of his 14-year career as a member of the Dolphins.

Eddie Meador (Cornerback, 1959-1970): Meador played his entire career with the Los Angeles Rams, where he earned selection to two first-team All-Pro teams and six Pro Bowls. He is a member of the NFL’s All-Decade Team of the 1960s. He finished his career with 46 interceptions, which remains a Rams franchise record.

Tommy Nobis (Linebacker, 1966-1976): Nobis was the first player the expansion Atlanta Falcons drafted and played his entire career in Atlanta. He won NFL Rookie of the Year, played in five Pro Bowls, selected first-team All-Pro (1967) and is a member of the NFL’s All-Decade Team of the 1960s.

Ken Riley (Cornerback, 1969-1983): Riley played his entire career with the Cincinnati Bengals and recorded 65 career interceptions, more than any other player not already in the Hall of Fame and the most by a player who saw action exclusively at cornerback. He was named first-team All-Pro in his final season.

Sterling Sharpe (Wide Receiver, 1988-1994): Sharpe made five Pro Bowls and three first-team All-Pro teams during his seven-year career with the Green Bay Packers. His 18 touchdown receptions in his final season is still good for third best all-time.

Everson Walls (Cornerback, 1981-1993): Playing most of his career with the Dallas Cowboys, Walls made three first-team All-Pro teams, four Pro Bowls and led the NFL in interceptions three times while in Dallas. He finished his career with the New York Giants and Cleveland Browns and helped New York to victory in Super Bowl XXV.

[SteelerDayTrader]

COACH/CONTRIBUTOR (12)

Roone Arledge: Television industry executive and producer whose creativity, leadership and technical innovations revolutionized the presentation of both news and sports.

Don Coryell: An innovative coach whose “Air Coryell” offense produced some of the most dynamic passing attacks in NFL history. Posted a career record of 114-89-1 in 14 seasons.

Mike Holmgren: Head coach of the Green Bay Packers from 1992-98 and the Seattle Seahawks from 1999-2008, posting a career record of 174-122-0 in his 17 seasons.

Frank “Bucko” Kilroy: Worked in player personnel and scouting for the Philadelphia Eagles, Washington Redskins and Dallas Cowboys. He was the Patriots’ general manager from 1979 to 1982 and vice president from 1983 to 1993.

Robert Kraft: Owner, Chairman and CEO of the New England Patriots since 1994. His teams have won six Super Bowls.

Art Modell: Owner of the Cleveland Browns from 1961-1995 and Baltimore Ravens from 1996- 2011. Credited with helping League achieve dramatic increases in television revenue.

Buddy Parker: Head coach of the Chicago Cardinals (1949), Detroit Lions (1951-56) and the Pittsburgh Steelers (1957-1964). Won two NFL titles with Lions and posted 107-76-9 overall record in 15 seasons.

Dan Reeves: Head coach of the Denver Broncos (1981-1992), New York Giants (1993-96) and the Atlanta Falcons (1997-2003). In 23 seasons, posted an overall record of 201-174-2.

Art Rooney Jr.: Employed with the Steelers since 1961, from 1964 through 1986, worked in the Steelers’ Scouting Department. Currently a Steelers vice president and member of the Board of Directors.

Mike Shanahan: Head coach of the Los Angeles Raiders (1988-89), Denver Broncos (1995- 2008) and the Washington Redskins (2010-13). In 20 seasons, posted an overall record of 178-144-0 with victories in two Super Bowls.

Clark Shaughnessy: Head coach of the Los Angeles Rams from 1948-49 (14-7-3 record) and longtime assistant coach for the Washington Redskins from 1944-47 and Chicago Bears from 1951-1962. Credited with modernizing the T formation.

John Wooten: Director of Pro Scouting for the Dallas Cowboys from 1975 to 1991. Created Player Development programs for the NFL in 1991. Vice President/Player Personnel for the Philadelphia Eagles in 1992 and Assistant Director, Pro/College Scouting for the Baltimore Ravens until his retirement in 2002. In 2003, Wooten became chairman of the Fritz Pollard Alliance, a position he held until 2019.

[SteelerDayTrader]

No one on any of those lists were better than Donnie Shell or LC Greenwood

Donnie was better than Troy

[bradshaw2ben]

You know Donnie Shell is in right?

[Jobu]

No one on any of those lists were better than Donnie Shell or LC Greenwood

Donnie was better than Troy

Donnie Shell was inducted a couple years ago.

[SteelerDayTrader]

You know Donnie Shell is in right?

Somehow I thought he was but I couldn’t find confirmation quickly

Sorry for the error

[Baltostiller]

With 2 first team all-pros and 2 2nd team along with a defensive player I’m of the year and one of the greatest plays in super bowl history, Harrison absolutely deserves it. That being said, the pussies in the media will never elect him…

[fractalsteel]

Why so many nominees?
D’Brickashaw Ferguson made three, yes 3 pro bowls and he gets a chance?
Sure he never missed a game but he was at best a good player.

The NFL let's too many in year after year.

I hope Harrison makes it just to hear hear his induction speech.

[SteelerDayTrader]

Why so many nominees?
D’Brickashaw Ferguson made three, yes 3 pro bowls and he gets a chance?
Sure he never missed a game but he was at best a good player.

The NFL let's too many in year after year.

I hope Harrison makes it just to hear hear his induction speech.

This is the initial list

It gets paired down along the way

[Havoc]

With 2 first team all-pros and 2 2nd team along with a defensive player I’m of the year and one of the greatest plays in super bowl history, Harrison absolutely deserves it. That being said, the pussies in the media will never elect him…

I hope Harrison gets in. One of my all time favorite Steelers.

IMO that resume belongs.

2× Super Bowl champion (XL, XLIII)
NFL Defensive Player of the Year (2008)
2× First-team All-Pro (2008, 2010)
2× Second-team All-Pro (2007, 2009)
5× Pro Bowl (2007–2011)
NFL forced fumbles leader (2008)

AND as you mentioned, one of the greatest, most electric plays in SB history.

Vote him in!!!

[Texas Black & Gold]

I hope all six get in eventually but Harrison and Ward deserve it the most.
I honestly don't remember any Chad Brown plays.

[anpsteel]

First Glance Selections

QUARTERBACKS (6): Randall Cunningham, Jake Delhomme, Jeff Garcia, Dave Krieg, Donovan McNabb, Steve McNair.
None

RUNNING BACKS (17): Shaun Alexander, Mike Alstott (FB), Tiki Barber, Larry Centers (FB), Corey Dillon, Warrick Dunn, Eddie George, Priest Holmes, Steven Jackson, Chris Johnson, Vonta Leach (FB), Jamal Lewis, Lorenzo Neal (FB), Eric Metcalf (also WR/PR/KR), Fred Taylor, Ricky Watters, Brian Westbrook.

WIDE RECEIVERS (20): Anquan Boldin, Troy Brown (also PR/KR), Donald Driver, Henry Ellard (also PR), Irving Fryar, *Devin Hester (also PR/KR), *Torry Holt, Joe Horn, Chad Johnson, *Andre Johnson, Derrick Mason, Muhsin Muhammad, Andre Rison, Jimmy Smith, Rod Smith, Steve Smith Sr., Hines Ward, *Reggie Wayne, Wes Welker, Roddy White.

TIGHT ENDS (3): Dallas Clark, Ben Coates, Wesley Walls.
None

OFFENSIVE LINEMEN (21): *Willie Anderson (T), Matt Birk (C), Lomas Brown (T), Ruben Brown (G), Jahri Evans (G), D’Brickashaw Ferguson (T), Kevin Glover (C/G), Jordan Gross (T), Olin Kreutz (C), Nick Mangold (C), Logan Mankins (G), Tom Nalen (C), Nate Newton (G/T), Jeff Saturday (C), Mark Schlereth (G/C), Chris Snee (G), Joe Thomas (T), Brian Waters (G), Richmond Webb (T), Erik Williams (T), Steve Wisniewski (G).

DEFENSIVE LINEMEN (14): John Abraham (DE, also LB), *Jared Allen (DE), Dwight Freeney (DE), La’Roi Glover (DT/NT), Casey Hampton (DT/NT), Robert Mathis (DE), Leslie O’Neal (DE), Simeon Rice (DE), Clyde Simmons (DE/DT), Justin Smith (DE), Neil Smith (DE), Justin Tuck (DE), Vince Wilfork (DT/NT), Kevin Williams (DT/DE).
None

LINEBACKERS (17): Jessie Armstead, Cornelius Bennett, NaVorro Bowman, Lance Briggs, Chad Brown, Tedy Bruschi, James Farrior, London Fletcher, James Harrison, Seth Joyner, Willie McGinest (also DE), Takeo Spikes, Pat Swilling (also DE), *Zach Thomas, *DeMarcus Ware, *Patrick Willis, Al Wilson.

DEFENSIVE BACKS (19): Eric Allen (CB), *Ronde Barber (CB/S), Dre’ Bly (CB), Kam Chancellor (S), Nick Collins (S), Antonio Cromartie (CB), Merton Hanks (S), Rodney Harrison (S), Albert Lewis (CB), Terry McDaniel (CB), Tim McDonald (S), Darrelle Revis (CB), Allen Rossum (CB), Asante Samuel (CB), Bob Sanders (S), Charles Tillman (CB), Troy Vincent (CB), Adrian Wilson (S), Darren Woodson (S).

PUNTERS/KICKERS (10): Gary Anderson (K), Jason Elam (K), Jeff Feagles (P), Jason Hanson (K), John Kasay, (K), Sean Landeta (P), Shane Lechler (P), Ryan Longwell (K), Pat McAfee (P), Matt Turk (P).
None

SPECIAL TEAMS (2): Josh Cribbs (KR/PR also WR), Brian Mitchell (KR/PR also RB).
None

I think Harrison should get in eventually. He definitely had a significant impact on the game. A bunch of today's penalties and fines, for "hitting him too hard" are a direct result of #92

[fractalsteel]

Why so many nominees?
D’Brickashaw Ferguson made three, yes 3 pro bowls and he gets a chance?
Sure he never missed a game but he was at best a good player.

The NFL let's too many in year after year.

I hope Harrison makes it just to hear hear his induction speech.

This is the initial list

It gets paired down along the way

Duh, I'm aware how the process works but it is stupid to include dozens of players who have no chance at the HOF like Ferguson.

[W&M_Steeler]

With 2 first team all-pros and 2 2nd team along with a defensive player I’m of the year and one of the greatest plays in super bowl history, Harrison absolutely deserves it. That being said, the pussies in the media will never elect him…

I hope Harrison gets in. One of my all time favorite Steelers.

IMO that resume belongs.

2× Super Bowl champion (XL, XLIII)
NFL Defensive Player of the Year (2008)
2× First-team All-Pro (2008, 2010)
2× Second-team All-Pro (2007, 2009)
5× Pro Bowl (2007–2011)
NFL forced fumbles leader (2008)

AND as you mentioned, one of the greatest, most electric plays in SB history.

Vote him in!!!

The best argument against Harrison's induction was that while he had a fantastic peak, it was relatively brief , and his overall career numbers did not quite stack up when compared to other HoFers. With the recent inductions of Terrell Davis, Kurt Warner, and Tony Boselli, however, that argument is gone. James should certainly be inducted into the HoF.

[Pabst]

Why so many nominees?
D’Brickashaw Ferguson made three, yes 3 pro bowls and he gets a chance?
Sure he never missed a game but he was at best a good player.

The NFL let's too many in year after year.

I hope Harrison makes it just to hear hear his induction speech.

It'll get knocked down to 25 around Thanksgiving then 15 finalists in January.

[fractalsteel]

Why so many nominees?
D’Brickashaw Ferguson made three, yes 3 pro bowls and he gets a chance?
Sure he never missed a game but he was at best a good player.

The NFL let's too many in year after year.

I hope Harrison makes it just to hear hear his induction speech.

It'll get knocked down to 25 around Thanksgiving then 15 finalists in January.

Like I said to STD, I get the process but it is stupid. Too many decent to good players get a shot even though they have no chance of making it.
Nothing like explaining yourself twice in one morning.

[Ice]

With 2 first team all-pros and 2 2nd team along with a defensive player I’m of the year and one of the greatest plays in super bowl history, Harrison absolutely deserves it. That being said, the pussies in the media will never elect him…

I hope Harrison gets in. One of my all time favorite Steelers.

IMO that resume belongs.

2× Super Bowl champion (XL, XLIII)
NFL Defensive Player of the Year (2008)
2× First-team All-Pro (2008, 2010)
2× Second-team All-Pro (2007, 2009)
5× Pro Bowl (2007–2011)
NFL forced fumbles leader (2008)

AND as you mentioned, one of the greatest, most electric plays in SB history.

Vote him in!!!

The best argument against Harrison's induction was that while he had a fantastic peak, it was relatively brief , and his overall career numbers did not quite stack up when compared to other HoFers. With the recent inductions of Terrell Davis, Kurt Warner, and Tony Boselli, however, that argument is gone. James should certainly be inducted into the HoF.

Yeah, I think we've pretty well normalized the "fantastic peak" thing at this point. I looked at TD and Warner as getting in partially because of media involvement, but now that the doors opened for Boselli, I just assumed that hurdle has been removed. Love to see Hines and James (no particular order) in. Couple greats from my Steeler-watching career.

[Kodiak.]

That QB list is pretty brutal. It's almost embarrassing to have a few even listed.

WR continues to be deep, and will just keep getting deeper. Hines Ward belongs, IMO, but he's probably going to end-up being a senior inductee.

[Ice]

Cunningham fits the "fantastic peak" criteria. His Ultimate Weapon years (only a few) were must see TV in my early childhood. Only non-Steeler whose jersey I've been seen in (even if it was youth-sized and a gift ).

[Pabst]

Why so many nominees?
D’Brickashaw Ferguson made three, yes 3 pro bowls and he gets a chance?
Sure he never missed a game but he was at best a good player.

The NFL let's too many in year after year.

I hope Harrison makes it just to hear hear his induction speech.

It'll get knocked down to 25 around Thanksgiving then 15 finalists in January.

Like I said to STD, I get the process but it is stupid. Too many decent to good players get a shot even though they have no chance of making it.
Nothing like explaining yourself twice in one morning.

Sorry, didn't scroll all the way down the thread before hitting reply.

[MJG75]

No one on any of those lists were better than Donnie Shell or LC Greenwood

Agree. Donnie is in. I'll add Andy Russell to your list of better than anyone on the list. There are some vets who deserve it. Kenny Anderson for one.

Look, I'm as big a fan of Deebo and James Farrior as anybody. Neither should be in the HOF, though i could see a case for Deebo. Same with Dwight White and Mike Wagner. They each had a few peak years too, and contributed to championships. However. If all these shamokes are even nominated, and some may get in? Then, hell yes, put them in. It is a travesty, though.

Art Jr. Should be in. Though he doesn't really deserve it, would love to see Buddy Parker get in for sentimental reasons.

[Jobu]

Let’s be honest here, when they started putting in guys like Bill Cowher, Terrell Davis, Tony Dungy, Tom Flores, and Tony Boselli, it became the Hall of Pretty Good.
Just induct everyone!

[Pabst]

Can't remember if we discussed it at the time, but the 2022 class might be the worst in history.