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Excited for the draft

Post by SteelerDayTrader » Mon Oct 24, 2022 11:42 pm

Right now I really like

Will Anderson
Joey Porter Jr
Darnell Wright
Jaheim Bell

With the 1st 4 picks

Who are some of your faves in this draft ??


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Post by El Kabong » Mon Oct 24, 2022 11:57 pm

My favorite is waiting until after the current season is over before worrying about the draft.
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Post by K_C_ » Tue Oct 25, 2022 12:09 am

El Kabong wrote:
Mon Oct 24, 2022 11:57 pm
My favorite is waiting until after the current season is over before worrying about the draft.
Yep.

Our needs may change a ton before this season is over (and we're not even half way through it).
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Post by 955876 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 12:17 am

If only mommy gave you a lil more titty.
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Post by Stosh-67 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 12:29 am

The nowv 4-2 Jets lost their top RB yesterday...
Najee for a 3rd?

But they quickly traded a 6th to the Jags for James Robinson.

Packers at break point in their season?
Tho NFC is pretty weak...

They still have their eye on Chase?
A 3rd rounder?
Or Dionte?

Be nice to see Austin in game action, to see what he looks like.

Any takers on Kendrick Green?
6th/ 7th?
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Post by 955876 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 12:36 am

Hard to imagine anyone giving us anything of value for Najee when an UDFA on his own team has been outplaying him from day 1.

Just an awful use of a first round pick.

But hey, at least they didn’t trade up for him
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Post by DP39 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:15 pm

Stosh-67 wrote:
Tue Oct 25, 2022 12:29 am
The nowv 4-2 Jets lost their top RB yesterday...
Najee for a 3rd?

But they quickly traded a 6th to the Jags for James Robinson.

Packers at break point in their season?
Tho NFC is pretty weak...

They still have their eye on Chase?
A 3rd rounder?
Or Dionte?

Be nice to see Austin in game action, to see what he looks like.

Any takers on Kendrick Green?
6th/ 7th?
While those are all nice (and correct) thoughts, it's just not going to happen in PGH. Deuce/Rooneys don't operate that way. Most all other teams do use these tactics/tools and it's smart, but you know.....'we do what we do'. This organization has some good and not-so-good qualities.

Also, I don't expect Austin to play this year -- given Tomlin and his idiotic moving train theory 'n all (unless it's real late in the season and we've given up based on our terrible record).

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Post by jebrick » Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:31 pm

Joey Porter is going in the 10-15 range. Unless you have the Steelers with multiple 1sts?
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Post by jebrick » Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:03 pm

A very interesting comment from another board
I was talking with someone on the plane about that who works for FO. He pointed out how easily they can tell who made the picks in Pittsburgh.


If the guy had a high RAS score with stats over the last two years, it was a Tomlin pick (TJ, Edmunds, Claypool). If it was an underclassman with decent RAS score and decent stats, the whole structure worked together (Freiermuth, Highsmith, Johnson). If the guy had a lower RAS score and great stats, with ok tape (Najee, Bush, Burns) it was likely a Colbert/ARIII pick. He mapped it out for me and showed the picks lately that matched historical Steelers players when adjusted for era.


The guy thinks that the change from Colbert/Hunt to Khan/Weidl is going to be one of the single best shifts in draft success a team will have without firing someone.
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Post by Steeldrama » Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:07 pm

jebrick wrote:
Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:03 pm
A very interesting copmment form another board
I was talking with someone on the plane about that who works for FO. He pointed out how easily they can tell who made the picks in Pittsburgh.


If the guy had a high RAS score with stats over the last two years, it was a Tomlin pick (TJ, Edmunds, Claypool). If it was an underclassman with decent RAS score and decent stats, the whole structure worked together (Freiermuth, Highsmith, Johnson). If the guy had a lower RAS score and great stats, with ok tape (Najee, Bush, Burns) it was likely a Colbert/ARIII pick. He mapped it out for me and showed the picks lately that matched historical Steelers players when adjusted for era.


The guy thinks that the change from Colbert/Hunt to Khan/Weidl is going to be one of the single best shifts in draft success a team will have without firing someone.
Interesting
But no way in hell Bush wasn’t a Tomlin pick
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Post by jebrick » Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:23 pm

Steeldrama wrote:
Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:07 pm
jebrick wrote:
Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:03 pm
A very interesting copmment form another board
I was talking with someone on the plane about that who works for FO. He pointed out how easily they can tell who made the picks in Pittsburgh.


If the guy had a high RAS score with stats over the last two years, it was a Tomlin pick (TJ, Edmunds, Claypool). If it was an underclassman with decent RAS score and decent stats, the whole structure worked together (Freiermuth, Highsmith, Johnson). If the guy had a lower RAS score and great stats, with ok tape (Najee, Bush, Burns) it was likely a Colbert/ARIII pick. He mapped it out for me and showed the picks lately that matched historical Steelers players when adjusted for era.


The guy thinks that the change from Colbert/Hunt to Khan/Weidl is going to be one of the single best shifts in draft success a team will have without firing someone.
Interesting
But no way in hell Bush wasn’t a Tomlin pick
For a 1st round pick, I would guess that Tomlin had total buy in. But it might be pushed by KC.
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:30 pm

And he failed to mention TJ Watt, who would be in the first category... Tomlin pick.

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Post by Steelperch » Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:29 pm

Who is the guy that picks all the players with brothers in the NFL?

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Post by jebrick » Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:03 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:30 pm
And he failed to mention TJ Watt, who would be in the first category... Tomlin pick.
TJ was listed as the 1st Tomlin pick
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Post by Professor Half Wit » Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:19 pm

El Kabong wrote:
Mon Oct 24, 2022 11:57 pm
My favorite is waiting until after the current season is over before worrying about the draft.
The draft is still currently much too far away for its expectation to be a source of pleasure or excitement to me.

Not sure how I feel about drafting Peezy's son. Not because I know a single thing about him or his play, but because I'm pretty sick of these draft picks with three degrees of separation from Tomlin.
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Post by Stosh-67 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:36 pm

Also, I don't expect Austin to play this year -- given Tomlin and his idiotic moving train theory 'n all (unless it's real late in the season and we've given up based on our terrible record).
DP....agree here.
It is an idiotic thought process.
He thinks the train is a well oiled machine and players will not be able to jump in and learn the system mid season.

Coo-Coo Train Myth One.
The train is not moving very quick to jump on. It never is.

Coo-Coo Train Myth Two.
If the thought process is the system and offense is too hard to pick up mid season, well its the most simplistic and least complicated offense in the entire World.

I would hate for this kid to lose the Whole season over some stupit Tomlin unwritten rules. Would be the second biggest disappointment of the season after the TJ injury.
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Post by Stosh-67 » Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:50 pm

Professor Half Wit wrote:
Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:19 pm
El Kabong wrote:
Mon Oct 24, 2022 11:57 pm
My favorite is waiting until after the current season is over before worrying about the draft.
The draft is still currently much too far away for its expectation to be a source of pleasure or excitement to me.

Not sure how I feel about drafting Peezy's son. Not because I know a single thing about him or his play, but because I'm pretty sick of these draft picks with three degrees of separation from Tomlin.
Can't agree more Wit.
Not sure how I feel about drafting Peezy's son.
I do not know the player or his talents, but knowing Tomlin and Joey were buddies ( probably still are ) and he was a LB coach under Tomlin......
Joey is probably working on his ear, talking him up........
And Tomlin may be of the thought process of making it up to Joey for having to fire him.....make-up pick.

We have seen way too many picks leveraged with these 3 degrees of separation.

Connor Heyward - brother Cam on team
Bush - Tomlin friend - Buddy Derek Brooks nephew?
Terrell Edmunds - Talented brother - West Virginia
Trey. Edmunds - RB brother already on team
Derek Watt - brother TJ Watt already on team
Landry Jones - Jones wife played college ball with Bens sister?
Chris Rainey - team mate of Mo Pouncey who vouched for him

I am probably missing some or at least some UDFA they brought in....think we had more brother combinations.
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Post by Mick » Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:01 pm

TJ Watt - little brother of JJ
Cam Heyward - son of ironhead
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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:43 pm

jebrick wrote:
Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:03 pm
A very interesting comment from another board
I was talking with someone on the plane about that who works for FO. He pointed out how easily they can tell who made the picks in Pittsburgh.


If the guy had a high RAS score with stats over the last two years, it was a Tomlin pick (TJ, Edmunds, Claypool). If it was an underclassman with decent RAS score and decent stats, the whole structure worked together (Freiermuth, Highsmith, Johnson). If the guy had a lower RAS score and great stats, with ok tape (Najee, Bush, Burns) it was likely a Colbert/ARIII pick. He mapped it out for me and showed the picks lately that matched historical Steelers players when adjusted for era.


The guy thinks that the change from Colbert/Hunt to Khan/Weidl is going to be one of the single best shifts in draft success a team will have without firing someone.
Interesting
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Post by steelmann58 » Wed Oct 26, 2022 1:49 am

I think Wedi is going to be a big come draft time.

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Post by Thrillsseeker » Wed Oct 26, 2022 4:21 pm

SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:43 pm
jebrick wrote:
Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:03 pm
A very interesting comment from another board
I was talking with someone on the plane about that who works for FO. He pointed out how easily they can tell who made the picks in Pittsburgh.


If the guy had a high RAS score with stats over the last two years, it was a Tomlin pick (TJ, Edmunds, Claypool). If it was an underclassman with decent RAS score and decent stats, the whole structure worked together (Freiermuth, Highsmith, Johnson). If the guy had a lower RAS score and great stats, with ok tape (Najee, Bush, Burns) it was likely a Colbert/ARIII pick. He mapped it out for me and showed the picks lately that matched historical Steelers players when adjusted for era.


The guy thinks that the change from Colbert/Hunt to Khan/Weidl is going to be one of the single best shifts in draft success a team will have without firing someone.
Interesting

Very interesting indeed. Let us hope these two kill it for the next decade!

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Post by jebrick » Wed Oct 26, 2022 8:48 pm

There was a follow up comment on how KC/Hunt like their skill guys early and get the trenches later. Weidl is the opposite at every place he has been. Trenches first then pick up skill guys later.

I really hope we see a shakeup in the scouts. I feel they have been missing for years.
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Post by anpsteel » Wed Oct 26, 2022 8:58 pm

jebrick wrote:
Tue Oct 25, 2022 3:03 pm
A very interesting comment from another board
I was talking with someone on the plane about that who works for FO. He pointed out how easily they can tell who made the picks in Pittsburgh.


If the guy had a high RAS score with stats over the last two years, it was a Tomlin pick (TJ, Edmunds, Claypool). If it was an underclassman with decent RAS score and decent stats, the whole structure worked together (Freiermuth, Highsmith, Johnson). If the guy had a lower RAS score and great stats, with ok tape (Najee, Bush, Burns) it was likely a Colbert/ARIII pick. He mapped it out for me and showed the picks lately that matched historical Steelers players when adjusted for era.


The guy thinks that the change from Colbert/Hunt to Khan/Weidl is going to be one of the single best shifts in draft success a team will have without firing someone.
Well that would be a welcome change

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Post by Mick » Wed Oct 26, 2022 11:40 pm

jebrick wrote:
Wed Oct 26, 2022 8:48 pm
There was a follow up comment on how KC/Hunt like their skill guys early and get the trenches later. Weidl is the opposite at every place he has been. Trenches first then pick up skill guys later.

I really hope we see a shakeup in the scouts. I feel they have been missing for years.
Eagles have 1st rounders at QB/WR1/WR2, 2nds at RB1/TE1, with oline having a 1st, a 2nd, and three late round picks.

Defense has premium picks at Edge and CB. Fletcher Cox was a 1st (before Weidl), and i guess Davis as well (after weidl).

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