Draft positions

[SteelerDayTrader]

- Imo center, off ball linebacker, strong safety are just terrible in this draft. I would not touch those positions until the 6th or 7th if at all

- quarterback, running back, cornerback have very limited numbers I could see doing well with the Steelers.

- In general not my favorite draft. Especially for the Steelers

[K_C_]

With Levi Wallace gone for sure and Pat Pete useless as tits on a bull, CB alongside JPJ is a must.

I could see the Steelers grabbing Terrion Arnold since McKinstry won't be there when they pick.

WR is a must because DJ's Steelers career will soon be coming to an end.

Calvin Austin is turning into a nice player, but he's more of a situational option. Not even a #3.

The Steelers need to find one real early and I expect that Georgia center to be the pick in the second round.

[Steel Bingo]

Curtis Jacobs (LB) came to Penn State with quality fanfare. Currently rated as a late round prospect.

I would hope the Steelers have interest in finding out if he's a late bloomer.

[SteelerDayTrader]

With Levi Wallace gone for sure and Pat Pete useless as tits on a bull, CB alongside JPJ is a must.

I could see the Steelers grabbing Terrion Arnold since McKinstry won't be there when they pick.

WR is a must because DJ's Steelers career will soon be coming to an end.

Calvin Austin is turning into a nice player, but he's more of a situational option. Not even a #3.

The Steelers need to find one real early and I expect that Georgia center to be the pick in the second round.

The thing you don’t seem to understand is reaching for weak prospects to fill needs is a recipe for disaster

[Charles Demarr]

Arnold, Quinyon Mitchell, Wiggins should all be in play round 1. Another premium corner has to be a priority.

You don’t like Jackson Powers Johnson? I don’t think he’ll even be there when we pick in the 2nd. He’s my choice.

[SteelerDayTrader]

Arnold, Quinyon Mitchell, Wiggins should all be in play round 1. Another premium corner has to be a priority.

You don’t like Jackson Powers Johnson? I don’t think he’ll even be there when we pick in the 2nd. He’s my choice.

I like Arnold ALOT

JPJ looks fat and outta shape IMO. I might change my mind if he impresses at the combine and measures long arms

I don’t wanna draft a center just because he might be better than Cole. We need a great one

[K_C_]

With Levi Wallace gone for sure and Pat Pete useless as tits on a bull, CB alongside JPJ is a must.

I could see the Steelers grabbing Terrion Arnold since McKinstry won't be there when they pick.

WR is a must because DJ's Steelers career will soon be coming to an end.

Calvin Austin is turning into a nice player, but he's more of a situational option. Not even a #3.

The Steelers need to find one real early and I expect that Georgia center to be the pick in the second round.

The thing you don’t seem to understand is reaching for weak prospects to fill needs is a recipe for disaster

Arnold is a weak prospect? Led Alabama with 12 pass breakups and five interceptions (which was tied for the most in the SEC.)

Good size at 6'0" 196 lbs. Looking forward to see what he runs but Arnold is one helluva player.

[SteelerDayTrader]

Arnold, Quinyon Mitchell, Wiggins should all be in play round 1. Another premium corner has to be a priority.

You don’t like Jackson Powers Johnson? I don’t think he’ll even be there when we pick in the 2nd. He’s my choice.

I like Arnold ALOT

JPJ looks fat and outta shape IMO. I might change my mind if he impresses at the combine and measures long arms

I don’t wanna draft a center just because he might be better than Cole. We need a great one

[Steelafan77]

With Levi Wallace gone for sure and Pat Pete useless as tits on a bull, CB alongside JPJ is a must.

I could see the Steelers grabbing Terrion Arnold since McKinstry won't be there when they pick.

WR is a must because DJ's Steelers career will soon be coming to an end.

Calvin Austin is turning into a nice player, but he's more of a situational option. Not even a #3.

The Steelers need to find one real early and I expect that Georgia center to be the pick in the second round.

The thing you don’t seem to understand is reaching for weak prospects to fill needs is a recipe for disaster

Can’t be any worse than what they’ve done in drafts past.

I love the idea of corner, IOL, ILB and Dline in some order from day 1 thru day 3.

[SteelerDayTrader]

With Levi Wallace gone for sure and Pat Pete useless as tits on a bull, CB alongside JPJ is a must.

I could see the Steelers grabbing Terrion Arnold since McKinstry won't be there when they pick.

WR is a must because DJ's Steelers career will soon be coming to an end.

Calvin Austin is turning into a nice player, but he's more of a situational option. Not even a #3.

The Steelers need to find one real early and I expect that Georgia center to be the pick in the second round.

The thing you don’t seem to understand is reaching for weak prospects to fill needs is a recipe for disaster

Can’t be any worse than what they’ve done in drafts past.

I love the idea of corner, IOL, ILB and Dline in some order from day 1 thru day 3.

If the idea is to get better you can’t settle for what failed previously

This draft has some talent

Not near what most drafts have depth wise

[Steelafan77]

I fully agree but let’s face it…. Last draft was done far better with the assistance of Andy Weidl.

He has been the difference in their recipe otherwise that is the point of my last post.

Before the Khan/Weidl combo the drafting was horrific and embarrassingly subpar.

Thinking they can only go up from this point.

[jebrick]

Calvin Austin is turning into a nice player, but he's more of a situational option. Not even a #3.

Austin is the same size as Zay Flowers. Runs great routes and is fast. The Steeler playbook is unimaginative in using him ( or anyone).

[Orangesteel]

What about Trice recovering and being effective? They loved him in camp.

Or is he a nickel back?

[SteelerDayTrader]

What about Trice recovering and being effective? They loved him in camp.

Or is he a nickel back?

I think he is an outside guy

But he was a 7th rounder because of repeated injuries……and….you know the rest

Maybe he will be a great CB but the chances of him ever going a full season are low

[SteelerDayTrader]

I fully agree but let’s face it…. Last draft was done far better with the assistance of Andy Weidl.

He has been the difference in their recipe otherwise that is the point of my last post.

Before the Khan/Weidl combo the drafting was horrific and embarrassingly subpar.

Thinking they can only go up from this point.

I think the last draft was pretty much Tomlin

But my point on this draft is

This team might have one solid unit (OLB)

So given that why not forget about drafting “needs” and just focus on getting great football players ??

For example

We all know center is a need. But if there aren’t any REALLY GREAT prospects all that does is get us maybe a little better than Cole ….when what we really need is ALOT BETTER than Cole

[cop1211]

With Levi Wallace gone for sure and Pat Pete useless as tits on a bull, CB alongside JPJ is a must.

I could see the Steelers grabbing Terrion Arnold since McKinstry won't be there when they pick.

WR is a must because DJ's Steelers career will soon be coming to an end.

Calvin Austin is turning into a nice player, but he's more of a situational option. Not even a #3.

The Steelers need to find one real early and I expect that Georgia center to be the pick in the second round.

The thing you don’t seem to understand is reaching for weak prospects to fill needs is a recipe for disaster

Well that’s what they’ve been doing for the past several drafts. ( last year they did well)

[cop1211]

Fix one unit be it Oline, secondary, or ILB.

1.RT
2.OC
3.ILB
4a.DE
4b.WR

OR
1.CB
2.S
3.DE
4a.DE
4.WR

1.RT
2.ILB
3.ILB
4a.DE
4b.DE

[K_C_]

Calvin Austin is turning into a nice player, but he's more of a situational option. Not even a #3.

Austin is the same size as Zay Flowers. Runs great routes and is fast. The Steeler playbook is unimaginative in using him ( or anyone).

I love Austin and he might be the same size as Zay Flowers, but they are not similar receivers.

Austin has improved making short/intermediate catches, but he has nowhere near the wiggle and open field ability that Flowers does to get himself open and find soft spots in zones.

Austin is all straight line speed. Zay Flowers, with seasoning, could become very AB-like.

[jebrick]

Calvin Austin is turning into a nice player, but he's more of a situational option. Not even a #3.

Austin is the same size as Zay Flowers. Runs great routes and is fast. The Steeler playbook is unimaginative in using him ( or anyone).

I love Austin and he might be the same size as Zay Flowers, but they are not similar receivers.

Austin has improved making short/intermediate catches, but he has nowhere near the wiggle and open field ability that Flowers does to get himself open and find soft spots in zones.

Austin is all straight line speed. Zay Flowers, with seasoning, could become very AB-like.

not according to Sauce Gardner and his college tape. All you see is straight line speed because that is all the Steeler coaches use him as. How many times has he been used not running a fly or a jet sweep?

[K_C_]

Austin is the same size as Zay Flowers. Runs great routes and is fast. The Steeler playbook is unimaginative in using him ( or anyone).

I love Austin and he might be the same size as Zay Flowers, but they are not similar receivers.

Austin has improved making short/intermediate catches, but he has nowhere near the wiggle and open field ability that Flowers does to get himself open and find soft spots in zones.

Austin is all straight line speed. Zay Flowers, with seasoning, could become very AB-like.

not according to Sauce Gardner and his college tape. All you see is straight line speed because that is all the Steeler coaches use him as. How many times has he been used not running a fly or a jet sweep?

Zay Flowers, like AB, has elite change of direction skills. I have seen Austin show good change of direction skills, especially in the return game and a nice hesitation/burst to get through traffic.

I hope you’re right that Austin becomes more of a weapon in the passing game but I’m not ready to compare him to Flowers quite yet.

[jebrick]

I fully agree but let’s face it…. Last draft was done far better with the assistance of Andy Weidl.

He has been the difference in their recipe otherwise that is the point of my last post.

Before the Khan/Weidl combo the drafting was horrific and embarrassingly subpar.

Thinking they can only go up from this point.

I think the last draft was pretty much Tomlin

But my point on this draft is

This team might have one solid unit (OLB)

So given that why not forget about drafting “needs” and just focus on getting great football players ??

For example

We all know center is a need. But if there aren’t any REALLY GREAT prospects all that does is get us maybe a little better than Cole ….when what we really need is ALOT BETTER than Cole

I think getting rid of Colbert will improve the talent. By all accounts, Colbert was a draft on college production guy and Tomlin is more of a SPARQ guy. The former gets you guys like KP and Jarvis Jones. The later is not perfect as it will get you guys like Dupree and Shazier. I would rather roll the dice on Bud Dupree who has some upside.

I think an improvement at center is fine if they get a real OC who will design plays so that the Center( whether it is Cole or someone else) is not single blocking Ed Oliver.

[Deebo]

Center, Tackle (LT or RT) and DB help should be the priorities in FA/Draft

Well really, anything except QB and RB should be on the table.

[StillerInCT]

Best player available. When we draft for need it tends to not work out.

[SteelerDayTrader]

Best player available. When we draft for need it tends to not work out.

This

Especially this draft

[SteelerDayTrader]

I fully agree but let’s face it…. Last draft was done far better with the assistance of Andy Weidl.

He has been the difference in their recipe otherwise that is the point of my last post.

Before the Khan/Weidl combo the drafting was horrific and embarrassingly subpar.

Thinking they can only go up from this point.

I think the last draft was pretty much Tomlin

But my point on this draft is

This team might have one solid unit (OLB)

So given that why not forget about drafting “needs” and just focus on getting great football players ??

For example

We all know center is a need. But if there aren’t any REALLY GREAT prospects all that does is get us maybe a little better than Cole ….when what we really need is ALOT BETTER than Cole

I think getting rid of Colbert will improve the talent. By all accounts, Colbert was a draft on college production guy and Tomlin is more of a SPARQ guy. The former gets you guys like KP and Jarvis Jones. The later is not perfect as it will get you guys like Dupree and Shazier. I would rather roll the dice on Bud Dupree who has some upside.

I think an improvement at center is fine if they get a real OC who will design plays so that the Center( whether it is Cole or someone else) is not single blocking Ed Oliver.

I’m ok with a later round center like Raym in the 6th or someone else

Less painful to cut if he doesn’t make it or needs cut later down the road

I think there is some difference between guys like JPJ and Raym just not a ton. And being that talent is limited in this draft I don’t wanna reach or skip over a truly great Steeler fit like Tvondre Sweat or Braelon Allen

[Ice]

So, if we're taking Sweat in the 2nd and Allen in the 4th (might end up having to be the 3rd for our typically 20s position), we're looking RT/CB in the first and CB/RT in the 3rd/4th?

The list of FA centers, by the way, is considerably less inspiring than the less than inspiring list of draftable centers.

[Thrillsseeker]

With Levi Wallace gone for sure and Pat Pete useless as tits on a bull, CB alongside JPJ is a must.

I could see the Steelers grabbing Terrion Arnold since McKinstry won't be there when they pick.

WR is a must because DJ's Steelers career will soon be coming to an end.

Calvin Austin is turning into a nice player, but he's more of a situational option. Not even a #3.

The Steelers need to find one real early and I expect that Georgia center to be the pick in the second round.

The thing you don’t seem to understand is reaching for weak prospects to fill needs is a recipe for disaster

Well that’s what they’ve been doing for the past several drafts. ( last year they did well)

Which was Tomlin. Kahn and Weidl were all over this past draft and FA.

[jebrick]

I think they need at least 1 "fat body" to clog up the running lanes. Do you spend a draft pick on Sweat or sign one of the many "fat bodies" that are looking for a job every off season?

[SteelerDayTrader]

I think they need at least 1 "fat body" to clog up the running lanes. Do you spend a draft pick on Sweat or sign one of the many "fat bodies" that are looking for a job every off season?

Sweat has ALOT going for him

Massive but to my eye looks like a great athlete given his size

Team leader

High motor

To my eye he could be a truly great Steeler DL

He and Benton would take a lot of pressure off the ILBs

[SteelerDayTrader]

So, if we're taking Sweat in the 2nd and Allen in the 4th (might end up having to be the 3rd for our typically 20s position), we're looking RT/CB in the first and CB/RT in the 3rd/4th?

The list of FA centers, by the way, is considerably less inspiring than the less than inspiring list of draftable centers.

Can’t fill every need. Gotta take greatness when it’s there

I’m telling ya

Arnold Sweat Allen 1 2 3 would really help this team

Barron and Muhammad with the 4s

Wow. That’s a crazy good draft