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Tomlin PC 1/14/25 -“‘Stuck’ is a helpless feeling. I don’t feel helpless,” Tomlin said. “I don’t know if I want to sell you an overly optimistic (tone) either.


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Tomlin PC 1/14/25 -“‘Stuck’ is a helpless feeling. I don’t feel helpless,” Tomlin said. “I don’t know if I want to sell you an overly optimistic (tone) either.


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If there is a God, PLEASE OH PLEASE send Tomlin to Penn State!
THAT
Would be AWESOME!
THAT
Would be AWESOME!
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Perch will have a stroke when he hears that.Steeldrama wrote: ↑Wed Dec 03, 2025 12:03 pmIf there is a God, PLEASE OH PLEASE send Tomlin to Penn State!
THAT
Would be AWESOME!
As an IU fan, I would FUCKING LOVE THIS!!!Steeldrama wrote: ↑Wed Dec 03, 2025 12:03 pmIf there is a God, PLEASE OH PLEASE send Tomlin to Penn State!
THAT
Would be AWESOME!
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Ehh Tomlin probably would be good at CFB. He isn't soooo bad at coaching that if you give him a massive talent advantage he couldn't win and I think he'd probably have a big talent advantage.
That would be hilariousSteeldrama wrote: ↑Wed Dec 03, 2025 12:03 pmIf there is a God, PLEASE OH PLEASE send Tomlin to Penn State!
THAT
Would be AWESOME!
At least half of the Penn State alumni would be in meltdown mode; while Pitt fans would be rejoicing.
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It's funny -- Ben is still being a bit political. You listen to his comments and the substantive remarks are all extremely critical of Tomlin without specifically calling out Tomlin yet he then is quick to add "he is a great coach" or "he is a HOFer."
But you can tell he thinks Tomlin doesn't hold people accountable, he believes Tomlin's schemes are wrong, and that Tomlin generally makes the wrong tactical decisions. Ben lays it all out. He makes the point that when you keep changing OCs but the offense looks the same, that maybe it isn't the OC. He made the point that when they moved the ball, AR was calling his own plays (something Ben did in his playing career that Tomlin and Coaches tried to shut down -- I remember after the Eagles game Claypool said Ben was drawing plays up sandlot style and the coaches freak out). Ben harped on lack of half time adjustments which to him was all coaching.
But you can tell he thinks Tomlin doesn't hold people accountable, he believes Tomlin's schemes are wrong, and that Tomlin generally makes the wrong tactical decisions. Ben lays it all out. He makes the point that when you keep changing OCs but the offense looks the same, that maybe it isn't the OC. He made the point that when they moved the ball, AR was calling his own plays (something Ben did in his playing career that Tomlin and Coaches tried to shut down -- I remember after the Eagles game Claypool said Ben was drawing plays up sandlot style and the coaches freak out). Ben harped on lack of half time adjustments which to him was all coaching.
Everybody who’s been watching this team for the past 10 to 15 years, knows that once Todd Haley left, the only time the offense sustained any drives was when Ben went no huddlezeke5123 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 03, 2025 2:02 pmIt's funny -- Ben is still being a bit political. You listen to his comments and the substantive remarks are all extremely critical of Tomlin without specifically calling out Tomlin yet he then is quick to add "he is a great coach" or "he is a HOFer."
But you can tell he thinks Tomlin doesn't hold people accountable, he believes Tomlin's schemes are wrong, and that Tomlin generally makes the wrong tactical decisions. Ben lays it all out. He makes the point that when you keep changing OCs but the offense looks the same, that maybe it isn't the OC. He made the point that when they moved the ball, AR was calling his own plays (something Ben did in his playing career that Tomlin and Coaches tried to shut down -- I remember after the Eagles game Claypool said Ben was drawing plays up sandlot style and the coaches freak out). Ben harped on lack of half time adjustments which to him was all coaching.
The rest of the game they would struggle to get first downs. Almost every drive involved them having to overcome third and long. Always.
That is why we know what we are seeing today is not an isolated result of Arthur Smith. It’s a direct reflection upon the only individual who has been present throughout that time. Asshat Tomlin
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Agreed. And it is clear Ben knows that, and if you read between the lines you hear some of his frustration from his time playing.anpsteel wrote: ↑Wed Dec 03, 2025 2:08 pmEverybody who’s been watching this team for the past 10 to 15 years, knows that once Todd Haley left, the only time the offense sustained any drives was when Ben went no huddlezeke5123 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 03, 2025 2:02 pmIt's funny -- Ben is still being a bit political. You listen to his comments and the substantive remarks are all extremely critical of Tomlin without specifically calling out Tomlin yet he then is quick to add "he is a great coach" or "he is a HOFer."
But you can tell he thinks Tomlin doesn't hold people accountable, he believes Tomlin's schemes are wrong, and that Tomlin generally makes the wrong tactical decisions. Ben lays it all out. He makes the point that when you keep changing OCs but the offense looks the same, that maybe it isn't the OC. He made the point that when they moved the ball, AR was calling his own plays (something Ben did in his playing career that Tomlin and Coaches tried to shut down -- I remember after the Eagles game Claypool said Ben was drawing plays up sandlot style and the coaches freak out). Ben harped on lack of half time adjustments which to him was all coaching.
The rest of the game they would struggle to get first downs. Almost every drive involved them having to overcome third and long. Always.
That is why we know what we are seeing today is not an isolated result of Arthur Smith. It’s a direct reflection upon the only individual who has been present throughout that time. Asshat Tomlin
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zeke5123 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 03, 2025 2:02 pmIt's funny -- Ben is still being a bit political. You listen to his comments and the substantive remarks are all extremely critical of Tomlin without specifically calling out Tomlin yet he then is quick to add "he is a great coach" or "he is a HOFer."
But you can tell he thinks Tomlin doesn't hold people accountable, he believes Tomlin's schemes are wrong, and that Tomlin generally makes the wrong tactical decisions. Ben lays it all out. He makes the point that when you keep changing OCs but the offense looks the same, that maybe it isn't the OC. He made the point that when they moved the ball, AR was calling his own plays (something Ben did in his playing career that Tomlin and Coaches tried to shut down -- I remember after the Eagles game Claypool said Ben was drawing plays up sandlot style and the coaches freak out). Ben harped on lack of half time adjustments which to him was all coaching.
Ben is smart enough to know to play it very cool until he gets into Canton. He won’t openly criticize Saint Mike.
After he gets his jacket, I suspect Ben will open up on Tomlin. I find it almost impossible to believe he likes or respects Tomlin, at least from a football knowledge perspective. Unless there is something about their relationship we don’t know (maybe they go to the same church or something), no way Ben thinks Tomlin is a HOF Coach. No way.
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Yeah, I wonder how many times Ben has had the conversation, “ how many more Super Bowls would you have won if you had a real coach?”CoolShades wrote: ↑Wed Dec 03, 2025 4:17 pmzeke5123 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 03, 2025 2:02 pmIt's funny -- Ben is still being a bit political. You listen to his comments and the substantive remarks are all extremely critical of Tomlin without specifically calling out Tomlin yet he then is quick to add "he is a great coach" or "he is a HOFer."
But you can tell he thinks Tomlin doesn't hold people accountable, he believes Tomlin's schemes are wrong, and that Tomlin generally makes the wrong tactical decisions. Ben lays it all out. He makes the point that when you keep changing OCs but the offense looks the same, that maybe it isn't the OC. He made the point that when they moved the ball, AR was calling his own plays (something Ben did in his playing career that Tomlin and Coaches tried to shut down -- I remember after the Eagles game Claypool said Ben was drawing plays up sandlot style and the coaches freak out). Ben harped on lack of half time adjustments which to him was all coaching.
Ben is smart enough to know to play it very cool until he gets into Canton. He won’t openly criticize Saint Mike.
After he gets his jacket, I suspect Ben will open up on Tomlin. I find it almost impossible to believe he likes or respects Tomlin, at least from a football knowledge perspective. Unless there is something about their relationship we don’t know (maybe they go to the same church or something), no way Ben thinks Tomlin is a HOF Coach. No way.
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This !!zeke5123 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 03, 2025 2:02 pmIt's funny -- Ben is still being a bit political. You listen to his comments and the substantive remarks are all extremely critical of Tomlin without specifically calling out Tomlin yet he then is quick to add "he is a great coach" or "he is a HOFer."
But you can tell he thinks Tomlin doesn't hold people accountable, he believes Tomlin's schemes are wrong, and that Tomlin generally makes the wrong tactical decisions. Ben lays it all out. He makes the point that when you keep changing OCs but the offense looks the same, that maybe it isn't the OC. He made the point that when they moved the ball, AR was calling his own plays (something Ben did in his playing career that Tomlin and Coaches tried to shut down -- I remember after the Eagles game Claypool said Ben was drawing plays up sandlot style and the coaches freak out). Ben harped on lack of half time adjustments which to him was all coaching.
Everyone knows it’s a Tomlin problem and either know it and say it. Or is pretending not to know and give the political answer
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anpsteel wrote: ↑Wed Dec 03, 2025 2:08 pmEverybody who’s been watching this team for the past 10 to 15 years, knows that once Todd Haley left, the only time the offense sustained any drives was when Ben went no huddlezeke5123 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 03, 2025 2:02 pmIt's funny -- Ben is still being a bit political. You listen to his comments and the substantive remarks are all extremely critical of Tomlin without specifically calling out Tomlin yet he then is quick to add "he is a great coach" or "he is a HOFer."
But you can tell he thinks Tomlin doesn't hold people accountable, he believes Tomlin's schemes are wrong, and that Tomlin generally makes the wrong tactical decisions. Ben lays it all out. He makes the point that when you keep changing OCs but the offense looks the same, that maybe it isn't the OC. He made the point that when they moved the ball, AR was calling his own plays (something Ben did in his playing career that Tomlin and Coaches tried to shut down -- I remember after the Eagles game Claypool said Ben was drawing plays up sandlot style and the coaches freak out). Ben harped on lack of half time adjustments which to him was all coaching.
The rest of the game they would struggle to get first downs. Almost every drive involved them having to overcome third and long. Always.
That is why we know what we are seeing today is not an isolated result of Arthur Smith. It’s a direct reflection upon the only individual who has been present throughout that time. Asshat Tomlin
This is because Tomlin's entire offensive strategy has been and always will be to get to 3rd and manageable, never wants to score too fast, possess the ball, possession downs, all that BS he spews...I prefer the Payton Manning strategy of football which is 1st down 1st down, or 1st down 2nd down 1st down, basically make hay on the easiest down to gain yards which is 1st down....it's the strategy Cowher finally came to realize and got them a championship in '05...the Steeler offense is either mandated by Tomlin or ArtII, both are dipshits.
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anpsteel wrote: ↑Wed Dec 03, 2025 5:00 pmYeah, I wonder how many times Ben has had the conversation, “ how many more Super Bowls would you have won if you had a real coach?”CoolShades wrote: ↑Wed Dec 03, 2025 4:17 pmzeke5123 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 03, 2025 2:02 pmIt's funny -- Ben is still being a bit political. You listen to his comments and the substantive remarks are all extremely critical of Tomlin without specifically calling out Tomlin yet he then is quick to add "he is a great coach" or "he is a HOFer."
But you can tell he thinks Tomlin doesn't hold people accountable, he believes Tomlin's schemes are wrong, and that Tomlin generally makes the wrong tactical decisions. Ben lays it all out. He makes the point that when you keep changing OCs but the offense looks the same, that maybe it isn't the OC. He made the point that when they moved the ball, AR was calling his own plays (something Ben did in his playing career that Tomlin and Coaches tried to shut down -- I remember after the Eagles game Claypool said Ben was drawing plays up sandlot style and the coaches freak out). Ben harped on lack of half time adjustments which to him was all coaching.
Ben is smart enough to know to play it very cool until he gets into Canton. He won’t openly criticize Saint Mike.
After he gets his jacket, I suspect Ben will open up on Tomlin. I find it almost impossible to believe he likes or respects Tomlin, at least from a football knowledge perspective. Unless there is something about their relationship we don’t know (maybe they go to the same church or something), no way Ben thinks Tomlin is a HOF Coach. No way.
If I ever get a chance to meet Ben in person, this would be the 1st question I would ask him.
Wow, after a decade plus of being told "we have a Tomlin at home," their fans would finally get to experience the real thing!Steeldrama wrote: ↑Wed Dec 03, 2025 12:03 pmIf there is a God, PLEASE OH PLEASE send Tomlin to Penn State!
THAT
Would be AWESOME!
Nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile...
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Amen....anpsteel wrote: ↑Wed Dec 03, 2025 2:08 pmEverybody who’s been watching this team for the past 10 to 15 years, knows that once Todd Haley left, the only time the offense sustained any drives was when Ben went no huddlezeke5123 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 03, 2025 2:02 pmIt's funny -- Ben is still being a bit political. You listen to his comments and the substantive remarks are all extremely critical of Tomlin without specifically calling out Tomlin yet he then is quick to add "he is a great coach" or "he is a HOFer."
But you can tell he thinks Tomlin doesn't hold people accountable, he believes Tomlin's schemes are wrong, and that Tomlin generally makes the wrong tactical decisions. Ben lays it all out. He makes the point that when you keep changing OCs but the offense looks the same, that maybe it isn't the OC. He made the point that when they moved the ball, AR was calling his own plays (something Ben did in his playing career that Tomlin and Coaches tried to shut down -- I remember after the Eagles game Claypool said Ben was drawing plays up sandlot style and the coaches freak out). Ben harped on lack of half time adjustments which to him was all coaching.
The rest of the game they would struggle to get first downs. Almost every drive involved them having to overcome third and long. Always.
That is why we know what we are seeing today is not an isolated result of Arthur Smith. It’s a direct reflection upon the only individual who has been present throughout that time. Asshat Tomlin
I always thought Ben would be an interesting OC. I wonder if the football juices are starting to flow again?
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Truthshellwagnerblount wrote: ↑Wed Dec 03, 2025 9:19 pmAmen....anpsteel wrote: ↑Wed Dec 03, 2025 2:08 pmEverybody who’s been watching this team for the past 10 to 15 years, knows that once Todd Haley left, the only time the offense sustained any drives was when Ben went no huddlezeke5123 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 03, 2025 2:02 pmIt's funny -- Ben is still being a bit political. You listen to his comments and the substantive remarks are all extremely critical of Tomlin without specifically calling out Tomlin yet he then is quick to add "he is a great coach" or "he is a HOFer."
But you can tell he thinks Tomlin doesn't hold people accountable, he believes Tomlin's schemes are wrong, and that Tomlin generally makes the wrong tactical decisions. Ben lays it all out. He makes the point that when you keep changing OCs but the offense looks the same, that maybe it isn't the OC. He made the point that when they moved the ball, AR was calling his own plays (something Ben did in his playing career that Tomlin and Coaches tried to shut down -- I remember after the Eagles game Claypool said Ben was drawing plays up sandlot style and the coaches freak out). Ben harped on lack of half time adjustments which to him was all coaching.
The rest of the game they would struggle to get first downs. Almost every drive involved them having to overcome third and long. Always.
That is why we know what we are seeing today is not an isolated result of Arthur Smith. It’s a direct reflection upon the only individual who has been present throughout that time. Asshat Tomlin
Mr ego control asshat puts his thumb on the offense to fake his defense bravado personna
Tomlin PC 1/14/25 -“‘Stuck’ is a helpless feeling. I don’t feel helpless,” Tomlin said. “I don’t know if I want to sell you an overly optimistic (tone) either.


What if everywhere he went he was greeted with FIRE TOMLIN chants after about four games?
"We, as an offensive collective were off today, and certainly, he's a component of that,"
This doesn’t get discussed enoughStillerDownSouth wrote: ↑Wed Dec 03, 2025 5:41 pmanpsteel wrote: ↑Wed Dec 03, 2025 2:08 pmEverybody who’s been watching this team for the past 10 to 15 years, knows that once Todd Haley left, the only time the offense sustained any drives was when Ben went no huddlezeke5123 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 03, 2025 2:02 pmIt's funny -- Ben is still being a bit political. You listen to his comments and the substantive remarks are all extremely critical of Tomlin without specifically calling out Tomlin yet he then is quick to add "he is a great coach" or "he is a HOFer."
But you can tell he thinks Tomlin doesn't hold people accountable, he believes Tomlin's schemes are wrong, and that Tomlin generally makes the wrong tactical decisions. Ben lays it all out. He makes the point that when you keep changing OCs but the offense looks the same, that maybe it isn't the OC. He made the point that when they moved the ball, AR was calling his own plays (something Ben did in his playing career that Tomlin and Coaches tried to shut down -- I remember after the Eagles game Claypool said Ben was drawing plays up sandlot style and the coaches freak out). Ben harped on lack of half time adjustments which to him was all coaching.
The rest of the game they would struggle to get first downs. Almost every drive involved them having to overcome third and long. Always.
That is why we know what we are seeing today is not an isolated result of Arthur Smith. It’s a direct reflection upon the only individual who has been present throughout that time. Asshat Tomlin
This is because Tomlin's entire offensive strategy has been and always will be to get to 3rd and manageable, never wants to score too fast, possess the ball, possession downs, all that BS he spews...I prefer the Payton Manning strategy of football which is 1st down 1st down, or 1st down 2nd down 1st down, basically make hay on the easiest down to gain yards which is 1st down....it's the strategy Cowher finally came to realize and got them a championship in '05...the Steeler offense is either mandated by Tomlin or ArtII, both are dipshits.
That the offense as called is intentional
It’s not an accident
Saw a clip of Ben saying Tomlin deserves a statue
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
That's Ben putting up a shield.
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
That's Ben putting up a shield.
Throw. The. Football. On. First. Down.
Eh...he was basically saying they have to get rid of him or that it's time for him to move on, but that they can give him a statue or whatever to soothe his ego.
They should really celebrate him by removing the fountain down at the point, including all remnants of Fort Pitt, and erect a 100 story statue of Coach T.
"We, as an offensive collective were off today, and certainly, he's a component of that,"
