For EVERYONE slamming Mason Rudolph!

[Texas Black & Gold]

The Steelers did not lose the game because of MR.
The Steelers were simply out maned and out played most of the night.

[Texas Black & Gold]

The Steelers did not lose the game because of MR.
The Steelers were simply out maned and out played most of the night.

yes and that was due to targeting the starting WRs. Game was close entire time. if juju and diontae in the game they win this.


but that said we were on a backup QB down to one 3rd string wr and TWO practice squad wrs, and a backup rb without his fb either. ALL starters were out of game.

and steelers STILL kept it close till the end.

If we had big ben, juju diontae, conner, NIX, well that woulda been a steeler rout. Not to mention Big Ben woulda just thrown garrett to ground and fell on him like the decastro did. Garrett woulda been down hard.

I don't disagree with you. A healthy Steelers team would have altered the outcome of the game for sure.

[Stallworth16]

Mason Rudolph had a terrible game. Yes the offensive line was a hot mess. He had no targets. But we can’t excuse his throwing which was awful.

Does that mean Rudolph sucks for all time? No, he had a bad game. It’s one game.

This game was a disaster from an injury and suspension point of view. We went into this game a team on a streak.

I’m waiting to hear about Juju and DJ, we need those guys.

[The Riddle of Steel]

Unfortunately the L still counts even if you have lots of injuries. And players are judged based on the results on the field. You don't get a pass on your performance because your teammates got hurt.

[LakecrestSteeler]

Unfortunately the L still counts even if you have lots of injuries. And players are judged based on the results on the field. You don't get a pass on your performance because your teammates got hurt.

They had injuries too.

[Jobu]

Unfortunately the L still counts even if you have lots of injuries. And players are judged based on the results on the field. You don't get a pass on your performance because your teammates got hurt.

They had injuries too.

Exactly...I don’t think they had a healthy or eligible safety by games end. And still...

[jeemie]

Mason Rudolph had a terrible game. Yes the offensive line was a hot mess. He had no targets. But we can’t excuse his throwing which was awful.

Does that mean Rudolph sucks for all time? No, he had a bad game. It’s one game.

This game was a disaster from an injury and suspension point of view. We went into this game a team on a streak.

I’m waiting to hear about Juju and DJ, we need those guys.

DJ was bleeding from his ear. That is a big sign of a skull fracture.

If he's back this season I will be amazed. And it may be a very long term thing too.

We'll see about JuJu. I expect Conner is out for a couple more weeks.

Enjoy what highlights there will be. No way this season is ending with a deep playoff run and the playoffs themselves are almost out of the question.

[jeemie]

Who did he have on the field? PRACTICE SQUAD PLAYERS!


Trey Edmunds practice squad

holton practice squad

14 whats his name tevin jones? practice squad

antonio brown gone
juju out
diontae out
switzer out

leveon gone
conner out
Nix out

We had LITERALLY NO PLAYMAKERS LEFT FOR RUDOLPH EXCEPT PRACTICE SQUADERS.

christ sake our best players were players that have done nothing in the nfl

Next up youll expect Rudolph to build Tom Brady's next mansion by himself with lincoln logs for christ sake!

No one's blaming MR completely for the loss.

However that doesnt change the fact that...

...he isn't pushing/can't push the ball down the field
...he takes forever on his reads (which doesn't help his stressed out OL)
...he has little pocket awareness
...he doesn't have the accuracy or the anticipation to make up for his not so good arm.

I gave him the benefit of the doubt early...but none of these things are getting any better.

This is independent of the dreck he had on the field supporting him last night.

He doesn't have it guys.

And it doesn't look like he'll get it.

[steelheadtrout]

Jeemie has it exactly right.

I had high hopes for MR when he came in. He is a self described film rat and I thought he might translate that onto the field.
I was wrong.

I suspect he might be an excellent coach down the road. But as an NFL QB, not so much.
Yeah, I'm disappointed. But now they need to start looking for BR's replacement. MR ain't it.

[JackLambert58]

Who did he have on the field? PRACTICE SQUAD PLAYERS!


Trey Edmunds practice squad

holton practice squad

14 whats his name tevin jones? practice squad

antonio brown gone
juju out
diontae out
switzer out

leveon gone
conner out
Nix out

We had LITERALLY NO PLAYMAKERS LEFT FOR RUDOLPH EXCEPT PRACTICE SQUADERS.

christ sake our best players were players that have done nothing in the nfl

Next up youll expect Rudolph to build Tom Brady's next mansion by himself with lincoln logs for christ sake!

No one's blaming MR completely for the loss.

However that doesnt change the fact that...

...he isn't pushing/can't push the ball down the field
...he takes forever on his reads (which doesn't help his stressed out OL)
...he has little pocket awareness
...he doesn't have the accuracy or the anticipation to make up for his not so good arm.

I gave him the benefit of the doubt early...but none of these things are getting any better.

This is independent of the dreck he had on the field supporting him last night.

He doesn't have it guys.

And it doesn't look like he'll get it.

I'm afraid everything that you're saying is true.

[JJT07]

Saw a good point in another post- this is a team that was 9-6-1 last year and didn't make the playoffs. They lost the best WR in the game from that team, and last night were down their new #1, #2 WRs and #1 RB. Couple that with garbage o-line play and not sure what people were expecting. Ben would have a hard time playing with these idiots we have on the field, in fact in his 1.5 games he was terrible. And if we don't add some weapons Ben won't look so great next year. Mason was bad, but he was in the worst possible position - no talent around him and a short week to prepare. Preparation is key for young QBs, and he got none.

[Steelperch]

You could’ve put Randy Moss on Shaq’s shoulders and Rudolph would’ve missed him. The receivers aren’t the problem when the QB is inaccurate. When a Tomlin paints his barn red, Rudolph can’t hit the broadside of it.

[The Riddle of Steel]

The more of Rudolph I see the more he reminds me of a shitter version of Joe Flacco. Big, close to zero mobility and pocket awareness, heaves a good long ball and checks down a lot. Lacks accuracy and touch on intermediate throws.

Flacco did win a SB MVP, but he needs a lot of help from his supporting cast.

[COR-TEN]

You could’ve put Randy Moss on Shaq’s shoulders and Rudolph would’ve missed him. The receivers aren’t the problem when the QB is inaccurate. When a Tomlin paints his barn red, Rudolph can’t hit the broadside of it.

I realize he has his limitations, and I can agree he's slow on reads and just stands there, but when you have a collapsing pocket as a constant threat, what did you expect?

[steelmann58]

Mason had plenty of Bad Moments but again the talent was bad . The kid need to learn to move because even though he stands in the pocket he going to get destroyed.

[Orangesteel]

You could’ve put Randy Moss on Shaq’s shoulders and Rudolph would’ve missed him. The receivers aren’t the problem when the QB is inaccurate. When a Tomlin paints his barn red, Rudolph can’t hit the broadside of it.

This x1000

[COR-TEN]

You could’ve put Randy Moss on Shaq’s shoulders and Rudolph would’ve missed him. The receivers aren’t the problem when the QB is inaccurate. When a Tomlin paints his barn red, Rudolph can’t hit the broadside of it.

This x1000

He's been under pressure the entire season. Accuracy suffers when you are pressured. That's the whole point. Pressure the QB into making mistakes. I'm not defending MR blindly, but put him behind last years O line and see what happens?

Munchak's arrival made a huge difference. Conversely, Munchaks departure has made a huge difference.

[SixTrophies]

The Steelers did not lose the game because of MR.
The Steelers were simply out maned and out played most of the night.

AND out coached

[Orangesteel]

You could’ve put Randy Moss on Shaq’s shoulders and Rudolph would’ve missed him. The receivers aren’t the problem when the QB is inaccurate. When a Tomlin paints his barn red, Rudolph can’t hit the broadside of it.

This x1000

He's been under pressure the entire season. Accuracy suffers when you are pressured. That's the whole point. Pressure the QB into making mistakes. I'm not defending MR blindly, but put him behind last years O line and see what happens?

Munchak's arrival made a huge difference. Conversely, Munchaks departure has made a huge difference.

Every QB is pressured. It’s very rare they are not. It’s about feel, pocket presence, footwork, reads, moving the legs to extend plays. He has none of that. Not yet at least.

[Steelcody86]

Good lord, about time my username works. Mods need to do a much better job of checking new account registrations for members who get locked out.

Now to the topic. We're slamming Mason Rudolph because he sucks. No arm strength, mobility or "it" factor. He can't throw well at ANY distance, and missed two potential TD's last night by severely under throwing an open WR. The 1st was Washington when the called PI, forget who the other was. He's a scrub and should be benched for Hodges. At least he can run.

[tbsteel]

Good lord, about time my username works. Mods need to do a much better job of checking new account registrations for members who get locked out.

Now to the topic. We're slamming Mason Rudolph because he sucks. No arm strength, mobility or "it" factor. He can't throw well at ANY distance, and missed two potential TD's last night by severely under throwing an open WR. The 1st was Washington when the called PI, forget who the other was. He's a scrub and should be benched for Hodges. At least he can run.

Nice post, and welcome back.

[Texas Black & Gold]

The Steelers did not lose the game because of MR.
The Steelers were simply out maned and out played most of the night.

AND out coached

I honestly don't know about that. I'm not sure how to assess coaching because I rarely see it in action.

[El Kabong]

We know that statistically visiting teams have a hard time playing on Thursdays. After 10 days off, a chance to rest and heal, I think Mason and the whole team will look a lot better. They'll look better against the Browns when the game is in Pittsburgh and they've had a whole week to prepare.

[Texas Black & Gold]

We know that statistically visiting teams have a hard time playing on Thursdays. After 10 days off, a chance to rest and heal, I think Mason and the whole team will look a lot better. They'll look better against the Browns when the game is in Pittsburgh and they've had a whole week to prepare.

I certainly hope so.
Are they going to have enough players to even replace all those that are hurt and suspended?

I don't even recognize half of the players.

[El Kabong]

We know that statistically visiting teams have a hard time playing on Thursdays. After 10 days off, a chance to rest and heal, I think Mason and the whole team will look a lot better. They'll look better against the Browns when the game is in Pittsburgh and they've had a whole week to prepare.

I certainly hope so.
Are they going to have enough players to even replace all those that are hurt and suspended?

I don't even recognize half of the players.

That part is worrysome.

[Jobu]

The Steelers did not lose the game because of MR.
The Steelers were simply out maned and out played most of the night.

AND out coached

By Freddie fuckin’ Kitchens...
Yep top 5 coach.

[StillerDownSouth]

I can’t for the life of me get that anyone sees anything positive from any game Mason has played. I get he is basically a rookie and has had injuries around him, but the dude has yet to do anything that makes me think hey this guy has some potential, I mean absolutely nothing. At this point I would prefer they bench is sorry ass and give Duck or even Lynch a go, because trust me there is no way they could be worse than Rudolph has been.

[RemoAZ]

I can’t for the life of me get that anyone sees anything positive from any game Mason has played. I get he is basically a rookie and has had injuries around him, but the dude has yet to do anything that makes me think hey this guy has some potential, I mean absolutely nothing. At this point I would prefer they bench is sorry ass and give Duck or even Lynch a go, because trust me there is no way they could be worse than Rudolph has been.

He does nothing really well. Not fast. No strong arm. Not accurate. Doesn't move in the pocket well/can't avoid the rush. Terrible mechanics. Throws a very weak deep ball. I guess you could say he didn't turn the ball over a lot until last night. You'd hope you could see at least one thing from a guy that's supposed to be the QB of the future that's special. Can anyone point out something that stands out when you watch him play?

[Kodiak]

When he's not checking down, has he actually looked better than Landry Jones did?

I would say Dobbs might be the [slightly] better QB, but that trade was the right move to make because Dobbs wasn't the future, either. And Dobbs had accuracy issues, also.


I think they should find out what they have with Duck, and then maybe one of these guys can get them a decent pick.

[StillerDownSouth]

I can’t for the life of me get that anyone sees anything positive from any game Mason has played. I get he is basically a rookie and has had injuries around him, but the dude has yet to do anything that makes me think hey this guy has some potential, I mean absolutely nothing. At this point I would prefer they bench is sorry ass and give Duck or even Lynch a go, because trust me there is no way they could be worse than Rudolph has been.

He does nothing really well. Not fast. No strong arm. Not accurate. Doesn't move in the pocket well/can't avoid the rush. Terrible mechanics. Throws a very weak deep ball. I guess you could say he didn't turn the ball over a lot until last night. You'd hope you could see at least one thing from a guy that's supposed to be the QB of the future that's special. Can anyone point out something that stands out when you watch him play?

I honestly can’t, and what sucks is looking around the league there are lots of 1st and 2nd year QB’s that I watch that are producing and making plays and having success. The PS are going to have to spend some draft capital in the 2021 draft to move up in the first round to draft Ben’s replacement, cause that guy is not on our roster currently.