Dotson traded. Anyone else gonna be moved?

[Steelersfan]

Woulda been nice if Khan woulda thru Canada & Faulkner in with Dotson.

Mann, Gentry, Mason, Boykin, Olsheivsky, Pierre maybe?

[Stosh-67]

Conner Heyward as 10th OL over KG.

TE, RB, H-back

In reality CH as TE #3/#4
And RB #3/#4

May be what saves a spot for Tomlin to justify keeping KG.

Rather keep an extra DL, ILB or DB with that CH flexibility

[LakecrestSteeler]

Brooke Pryor
@bepryor
Steelers are trading OL Kevin Dotson to the Rams, sources tell ESPN.

Trade also comes with picks swap.

Steelers and Rams swap 2024 4th and 5th. Steelers get the Rams' 4th; and Rams get the Steelers' 5th.

In 2025, Steelers get Rams' 5th rounder, and Rams get Steelers' 6th
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Khan
Artist

That 4th next year could be a very early 4th too. Great deal.

Might want to change the title of the thread since you started it to avoid the inevitable Dotson thread.

[Stosh-67]

When do teams need to get to 53?

Does Kahn have time to make another deal

[Burghboy]

Moore, Isaac's, Cole, Daniel's, Chucks.

Jones, Herbig, Anderson

LeRaven Clark,
That's 9.

McCollum, Kendrick Green

Still can't see KG making team.

Clark isn't making the team. That's Dylan Cook's spot.

Solid compensation since Dotson was going to get cut anyway. I have the Rams as a bottom 10 team.

[955876]

Probably also means there were no takers for Green

Then you say oh well and cut him anyways.

Hopefully our line stays healthy and it’s a non-issue.

I just don’t like any scenario that puts Green back on the field for meaningful games.

He’s that bad.

[Steelersfan]

Tuesday 4:00 PM

Green can be cut then added to the PS if they wanna keep him around to see if ever develops into a #53 by adding versatility.

[tbsteel]

Moore, Isaac's, Cole, Daniel's, Chucks.

Jones, Herbig, Anderson

LeRaven Clark,
That's 9.

McCollum, Kendrick Green

Still can't see KG making team.

I think Cook is kept over Clark but otherwise agree.

[Pabst]

We have traded G Kevin Dotson, a fifth-round pick in the 2024 NFL Draft & a sixth-round pick in the 2025 NFL Draft to the L.A. Rams for a fourth-round pick in the 2024 NFL Draft & a fifth-round pick in the 2025 NFL Draft.

: bit.ly/3qNUVBq

[Steelafan77]

I know it’s a loooooooooong shot but Moore playing so much better with the competition at LT I think you strike while the iron is hot…. Trade Moore to a LT challenged franchise similar to the Claypool deal….

Hard pass. Moore (IMO & the coaches) is better than Chuks.

Moore is the RT for next few years with Jones at LT.

Don’t create a hole getting cute.

Now if they feel Jones is ready and want to trade Chuks I wouldn’t hate it.

But I wanna compete this year. Jones is very raw. I like the depth

To your point Okorafor is on borrowed time as well. He was continually walked back by 2nd and 3rd tier players not that he was going all out in pre-season but I saw little to be confident about.

Does Moore replace him at RT? Moore is almost worse at RT than LT IMO…it is challenging for guys to flip sides after playing the other. Perhaps he can be coached up but I believe switching sides may not be in the Steelers best interest.

Moore is at least serviceable, yes he has worts but could still be decent trade bait going forward. I believe it’s Completely Plausible without creating a “hole”.

Clark is an absolute dumpster fire and would not be in my plans very long. Thinking either Cook or Anderson could be potentially a stop gap. I think their future RT isn’t yet on the current roster and neither is their future center. JMO

[jewelsongs]

Moore, Isaac's, Cole, Daniel's, Chucks.

Jones, Herbig, Anderson

LeRaven Clark,
That's 9.

McCollum, Kendrick Green

Still can't see KG making team.

Insert Cook instead of Clark, and that is your 9. Green to the taxi squad.

[tbsteel]

Edit: biffed this

[Kodiak.]

Tuesday 4:00 PM

Green can be cut then added to the PS if they wanna keep him around to see if ever develops into a #53 by adding versatility.

It's absolutely mind-blowing that he started at C, as a rookie, in Ben's last year.

[Thrillsseeker]

Tuesday 4:00 PM

Green can be cut then added to the PS if they wanna keep him around to see if ever develops into a #53 by adding versatility.

It's absolutely mind-blowing that he started at C, as a rookie, in Ben's last year.

Certainly a shit sandwich.

Hate Green on the line but pancaking someone on short n goal as a FB would be ok with me.

I realize cant keep his job open on the 53 for scarce FB play but it did look awesome in camp.

[Mick]

Looking at the trade value chart, in terms of expected points (say the Steelers are roughly 15 draft spots behind the Rams), we basically traded Dotson for the value of an early 5th round draft pick. If the gap is greater between the Rams and Steelers, then it takes on even a higher value.

eh? Latish 5th for earlyish 4th is worth 50-70 points, late 4th or so value.

[SteelerDayTrader]

Brooke Pryor
@bepryor
Steelers are trading OL Kevin Dotson to the Rams, sources tell ESPN.

Trade also comes with picks swap.

Steelers and Rams swap 2024 4th and 5th. Steelers get the Rams' 4th; and Rams get the Steelers' 5th.

In 2025, Steelers get Rams' 5th rounder, and Rams get Steelers' 6th
4:31 PM · Aug 27, 2023
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So 2024 looks like

1 2 3 4 (Rams) 4 6 7

And 2025 looks like

1 2 3 4 5 (Rams) 5 7

That’s not bad considering how massively the Steelers fucked up Dotson

[stillthere]

Hopefully this doesn’t mean Green is retained and moved up depth chart.

Trap what you sow if injuries force Green into the lineup.

That's what I was thinking.
Geez..
At least Dotsan can play a position.
In no way do we want KG getting snaps.

Probably also means there were no takers for Green

Dotson plays RG well and that is it. Green plays RG well too. While is is shit at C he at least has played the position in the NFL I also think he moves better than Dotson (I like Dotson). Dotson is more of a kick your ass in a small area guy though. I do not think he adapted well to Meyers independent punch technique.

[langer]

The Steelers have certainly shown through this offseason that Green can’t really play any position.

Someone thought it was a good idea to push that he could play a “skilled position”

[Steelafan77]

Based on Dotson passing his physical…. The Steelers will save $1.8mil in cap space this year carrying approximately $164K in dead money. Factor in the additional cuts ultimately resulting in more cap space, Addition draft capitol is just genius. Makes one wonder if there was a player initially they thought they could trade straight up for and/or fleece as part of the deal?


Thoughts on Emil Ekiyor? Recently cut by the Colts. Center prospect?

[franco32]

I like the Dotson trade. Great value in return and we have good depth on the interior. Cook has really come on this summer and I think he takes a spot. He was playing LG the other night and doing it fairly well. Guy was a QB to start and has really good feet. Credit to Khan and Weidl for spotting that when TB cut him in OTAs. (Btw--I'm worried about losing Weidl...people are starting to pay attention there.)

Green should be cut and move on with his life's work. He's not even worth a PS IMO.

Moore has improved over the offseason at OT, but he still has room to grow. Chuks is Chuks. He's being overpaid for what he is but, you still need that tackle depth in the NFL. I would not get rid of him.

[Suwanee88]

I like the Dotson trade. Great value in return and we have good depth on the interior. Cook has really come on this summer and I think he takes a spot. He was playing LG the other night and doing it fairly well. Guy was a QB to start and has really good feet. Credit to Khan and Weidl for spotting that when TB cut him in OTAs. (Btw--I'm worried about losing Weidl...people are starting to pay attention there.)

Green should be cut and move on with his life's work. He's not even worth a PS IMO.

Moore has improved over the offseason at OT, but he still has room to grow. Chuks is Chuks. He's being overpaid for what he is but, you still need that tackle depth in the NFL. I would not get rid of him.

Agreed!

[Scunge]

Looking at the trade value chart, in terms of expected points (say the Steelers are roughly 15 draft spots behind the Rams), we basically traded Dotson for the value of an early 5th round draft pick. If the gap is greater between the Rams and Steelers, then it takes on even a higher value.

I believe we make the playoffs this year and win a playoff game, if that happens we could be right around our average draft slot these past 20 years, somewhere around 23-24, etc.

I see the RAMs falling apart this year, they paid a price to win that Super Bowl and it will cost them dearly the next couple of seasons.

So, I can see them picking in the top 10 again for the 2024 draft. Just for argument say they pick 6th.

Now remember that there are compensation picks at the end of the 4th round. Last year netted only one but prior years there were as many as 6, 7, etc.

Last draft (2023) the 6th pick in the 4th round was the 108th overall pick. The 24th pick in the 5th round was the 159th overall pick.

So, hypothetically in this scenario, if the Steelers swapped their 5th round pick for that 4th round pick, they moved up 51 spots. If there are more 4th round comp picks doled out for 2024 as in 2022 and 2021, they could possibly have moved up even more, like 56-57 spots.

Same scenario could play out for that 5th-6th round swap of picks.

To me this is very smart and it is something that I hope the Steelers continue to do.

[LakecrestSteeler]

Sounds like the Seahawks are trying to move Bush already…might be in danger of being cut:

https://steelersdepot.com/2023/08/seaha ... es-roster/

Good grief he was bad!

[Pabst]

I believe we make the playoffs this year and win a playoff game, if that happens we could be right around our average draft slot these past 20 years, somewhere around 23-24, etc.

I see the RAMs falling apart this year, they paid a price to win that Super Bowl and it will cost them dearly the next couple of seasons.

So, I can see them picking in the top 10 again for the 2024 draft. Just for argument say they pick 6th.

Now remember that there are compensation picks at the end of the 4th round. Last year netted only one but prior years there were as many as 6, 7, etc.

Last draft (2023) the 6th pick in the 4th round was the 108th overall pick. The 24th pick in the 5th round was the 159th overall pick.

So, hypothetically in this scenario, if the Steelers swapped their 5th round pick for that 4th round pick, they moved up 51 spots. If there are more 4th round comp picks doled out for 2024 as in 2022 and 2021, they could possibly have moved up even more, like 56-57 spots.

Same scenario could play out for that 5th-6th round swap of picks.

To me this is very smart and it is something that I hope the Steelers continue to do.

Dude, the Rams fell apart *last year*. They were 5-12. All they've done in the interim is lose Jalen Ramsey, Leonard Floyd, Bobby Wagner, A'Shawn Robinson, Andrew Whitworth, and Allen Robinson. It would take a legendary coaching job to get them anywhere near a .500 record

It still blows my mind that they haven't had a First Round pick since 2016.


Credit where due, though. At least the Rams are smart enough to know when it's time to blow it up (lookin at you, New Orleans)

[LakecrestSteeler]

I believe we make the playoffs this year and win a playoff game, if that happens we could be right around our average draft slot these past 20 years, somewhere around 23-24, etc.

I see the RAMs falling apart this year, they paid a price to win that Super Bowl and it will cost them dearly the next couple of seasons.

So, I can see them picking in the top 10 again for the 2024 draft. Just for argument say they pick 6th.

Now remember that there are compensation picks at the end of the 4th round. Last year netted only one but prior years there were as many as 6, 7, etc.

Last draft (2023) the 6th pick in the 4th round was the 108th overall pick. The 24th pick in the 5th round was the 159th overall pick.

So, hypothetically in this scenario, if the Steelers swapped their 5th round pick for that 4th round pick, they moved up 51 spots. If there are more 4th round comp picks doled out for 2024 as in 2022 and 2021, they could possibly have moved up even more, like 56-57 spots.

Same scenario could play out for that 5th-6th round swap of picks.

To me this is very smart and it is something that I hope the Steelers continue to do.

Dude, the Rams fell apart *last year*. They were 5-12. All they've done in the interim is lose Jalen Ramsey, Leonard Floyd, Bobby Wagner, A'Shawn Robinson, Andrew Whitworth, and Allen Robinson. It would take a legendary coaching job to get them anywhere near a .500 record

It still blows my mind that they haven't had a First Round pick since 2016.


Credit where due, though. At least the Rams are smart enough to know when it's time to blow it up (lookin at you, New Orleans)

Wouldn't be surprised if payment comes due this year for the 49ers too, starting with a nice Steeler victory! Couple that with an injury or two, the implosion could start rather quickly....I imagine everyone on the team is on the razor's edge of being bought in with the front office and coaching being crazy like a fox, and/or ready to jump ship because the brain trust traded all those draft picks for nothing because they are crazy for real. Would not surprise me in the least!

[Stosh-67]

Brooke Pryor
@bepryor
Steelers are trading OL Kevin Dotson to the Rams, sources tell ESPN.

Trade also comes with picks swap.

Steelers and Rams swap 2024 4th and 5th. Steelers get the Rams' 4th; and Rams get the Steelers' 5th.

In 2025, Steelers get Rams' 5th rounder, and Rams get Steelers' 6th
4:31 PM · Aug 27, 2023
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40.8K
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So 2024 looks like

1 2 3 4 (Rams) 4 6 7

And 2025 looks like

1 2 3 4 5 (Rams) 5 7

That’s not bad considering how massively the Steelers fucked up Dotson

I like it.
Hope to add more draft picks.

And those extra draft picks can and will be used to move up here and there to grab THE pick

[tbsteel]

Looking at the trade value chart, in terms of expected points (say the Steelers are roughly 15 draft spots behind the Rams), we basically traded Dotson for the value of an early 5th round draft pick. If the gap is greater between the Rams and Steelers, then it takes on even a higher value.

eh? Latish 5th for earlyish 4th is worth 50-70 points, late 4th or so value.

Yeah, I biffed that hah. Thanks for the correction.

For some reason I was going off of us switching 4th rounders, not switching their 4th for our 5th.

[tbsteel]

I believe we make the playoffs this year and win a playoff game, if that happens we could be right around our average draft slot these past 20 years, somewhere around 23-24, etc.

I see the RAMs falling apart this year, they paid a price to win that Super Bowl and it will cost them dearly the next couple of seasons.

So, I can see them picking in the top 10 again for the 2024 draft. Just for argument say they pick 6th.

Now remember that there are compensation picks at the end of the 4th round. Last year netted only one but prior years there were as many as 6, 7, etc.

Last draft (2023) the 6th pick in the 4th round was the 108th overall pick. The 24th pick in the 5th round was the 159th overall pick.

So, hypothetically in this scenario, if the Steelers swapped their 5th round pick for that 4th round pick, they moved up 51 spots. If there are more 4th round comp picks doled out for 2024 as in 2022 and 2021, they could possibly have moved up even more, like 56-57 spots.

Same scenario could play out for that 5th-6th round swap of picks.

To me this is very smart and it is something that I hope the Steelers continue to do.

I biffed my prior review of the trade (for some reason I had in my head we were switching 4th rounders, and not their 4th for our 5th in 2024).

But yeah, if the Rams are as bad as many think they will be this season, this is an absolute great return for a guy who was basically a backup level guard.

[stillthere]

Dude, the Rams fell apart *last year*. They were 5-12. All they've done in the interim is lose Jalen Ramsey, Leonard Floyd, Bobby Wagner, A'Shawn Robinson, Andrew Whitworth, and Allen Robinson. It would take a legendary coaching job to get them anywhere near a .500 record

It still blows my mind that they haven't had a First Round pick since 2016.


Credit where due, though. At least the Rams are smart enough to know when it's time to blow it up (lookin at you, New Orleans)

Whitworth has bee gone 2 years now. He was on the Amazon Prime pre and post game last year.

The Rams have had first round picks they have just traded them all away.

[Pabst]

Dude, the Rams fell apart *last year*. They were 5-12. All they've done in the interim is lose Jalen Ramsey, Leonard Floyd, Bobby Wagner, A'Shawn Robinson, Andrew Whitworth, and Allen Robinson. It would take a legendary coaching job to get them anywhere near a .500 record

It still blows my mind that they haven't had a First Round pick since 2016.


Credit where due, though. At least the Rams are smart enough to know when it's time to blow it up (lookin at you, New Orleans)

Whitworth has bee gone 2 years now. He was on the Amazon Prime pre and post game last year.

The Rams have had first round picks they have just traded them all away.

I forgot that Whitworth retired prior to last year. He's still counting as a dead cap hit which is why I included him. Still, they've lost a boatload of defenders.

To the bolded....yeah? that's the point?