I don't think I'm being Rosey, orange. I know this is a flawed fuckin team offensively, I called them out months ago for having no one but Pickens at WR. Hence, I'm going to celebrate every win they can eke out, cuz none of them are gimmes, particularly on the road. I'm fuckin thrilled that both ravens and bungals are 2 games behindOrangesteel wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:04 amSwiss, enough with the rosey bullshit. If this was a situation where a team went a few weeks scoring under 20 points, road games, going against tough defenses, then fine.
This is a MULTI-YEAR thing; the Steelers are trying to win games 16-10 or 17-13 every damn week. Their ability to win or lose is based on how many sacks and QB pressures their all world edge rusher has.
This is not a serious football team. I think what makes it extra frustrating to watch is how awesome this defense is. Imagine if we only had a middle of the road offense?
Here is the deal; the story about the failed Aiyuk trade is true. So, as it is, the Steelers believed up until the first game of the season that Aiyuk would be on this team. The Niners were on the damn phone finalizing a deal when it fell apart.
Now Van Jefferson is our #2 and we’ve scored 1 touchdown in 8 quarters of football. It’s another year of the same exact bullshit. This is not a serious franchise.
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Exactly.Mick wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:37 amyeah at this point you kinda feel like when tomlin says something like “we don’t care about style points” by ‘style points’ he really just means what other people call “points”.Orangesteel wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:16 amIt’s not a strategy: they don’t give a shit about scoring points.
He has a lot of hot air post game bullshit about it but he’s the guy responsible for the worst offense currently in the NFL.
I’ll credit the 2-0 but the offense is an embarrassment.
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True lolSteelperch wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:23 amWinning 17 games with 8 TDs would be the most Tomlin stat ever.
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the second half was terrible can't depend on your defense to win all the games and depend on your FG Kicker.
The offense needs to produce more than a single lousy td
The offense needs to produce more than a single lousy td
Did anyone really think anything would be different than the last 4 years???
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It already is different. Personnel packages and formations are vastly different from last few years. Last week we rolled the QB left and threw across the field to the right sideline. When have you seen anything like that since Ben was here?
That is it.Mick wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:37 amyeah at this point you kinda feel like when tomlin says something like “we don’t care about style points” by ‘style points’ he really just means what other people call “points”.Orangesteel wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:16 amIt’s not a strategy: they don’t give a shit about scoring points.
We dont do style like those other teams, KC and such, if you will. They win by scoring points, we dont need to do that.
A de-evolutionary way of playing football, going back in time.
He's designed a team to never go to the Super Bowl, which is ok, because we don't need that. It's better to be competitive than to actually win. Winning means taking on responsibility and effort. Coach is not about that.
The D is playing well, the offense is absolutely abysmal.
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The personnel packages and general play designs are certainly different, but the play sequencing and ideology are the same.stillthere wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 3:19 amIt already is different. Personnel packages and formations are vastly different from last few years. Last week we rolled the QB left and threw across the field to the right sideline. When have you seen anything like that since Ben was here?
Particularly when they go into turtle mode.
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When they get turned, they usually get a call. When the blocker is engaged and the blocker is turned (as opposed to the rusher) they get more leeway. Do I think it's fair? Not really. But that's what the standard is.stillthere wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:24 amWatt, Highsmith, Heyward, and a few others would like a word with you.bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:08 amI thought that was a good call. Moore grabbed his near the chest plate and turned the defender 90 degrees. That's gonna get called just about every time; turning the player away from where he is going is the real notable part of that.
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It's not like Fields isn't trying! Three fumbled snaps and one nearly picked ball in only two attempts between the numbers on the field. Give him time!swissvale72 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:01 am"Terrible to watch?" I dunno. Could be a whole lot more terrible than 2-0, tso road wins. I refuse to bitch when Steelers are winning. And oh...zero turnovers in two gamesOrangesteel wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:50 amYes. Agreed.Steelperch wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:47 am
The bigger issue is aggressiveness. They tried to milk the entire second half clock. All of the good things in play design and play calling we saw in the first half were intentionally shut down in the 2H. It’s that mentality of holding on for a narrow win that is infuriating.. They never have it in them mentally to just bury a bad team.
I’m ready to see RW. I don’t care if he sucks out loud. This is just terrible to watch.
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And Denver hit a flea-flciker for a big gain. Does it mean Denver's offense was innovative yesterday?langer wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 9:36 amThat is it.Mick wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:37 amyeah at this point you kinda feel like when tomlin says something like “we don’t care about style points” by ‘style points’ he really just means what other people call “points”.Orangesteel wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:16 amIt’s not a strategy: they don’t give a shit about scoring points.
We dont do style like those other teams, KC and such, if you will. They win by scoring points, we dont need to do that.
A de-evolutionary way of playing football, going back in time.
He's designed a team to never go to the Super Bowl, which is ok, because we don't need that. It's better to be competitive than to actually win. Winning means taking on responsibility and effort. Coach is not about that.
The D is playing well, the offense is absolutely abysmal.
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Winning means RISK. You have to RISK losing. That's his Rubicon. He will not take a risk nor make a change he doesn't absolutely HAVE to do to avoid a losing season.langer wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 9:36 amThat is it.Mick wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:37 amyeah at this point you kinda feel like when tomlin says something like “we don’t care about style points” by ‘style points’ he really just means what other people call “points”.Orangesteel wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:16 amIt’s not a strategy: they don’t give a shit about scoring points.
We dont do style like those other teams, KC and such, if you will. They win by scoring points, we dont need to do that.
A de-evolutionary way of playing football, going back in time.
He's designed a team to never go to the Super Bowl, which is ok, because we don't need that. It's better to be competitive than to actually win. Winning means taking on responsibility and effort. Coach is not about that.
The D is playing well, the offense is absolutely abysmal.
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The team is controlled by Tomlin no Matter who the OC is.
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Winning NINE games with 4 TDs would be the most Tomlin stat ever.Steelperch wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:23 amWinning 17 games with 8 TDs would be the most Tomlin stat ever.
Fixedsteelmann58 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 12:57 amThe team is fucked over by Tomlin no Matter who the OC is.
glad I have Boz in my FF leaguebradshaw2ben wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 1:13 amWinning NINE games with 4 TDs would be the most Tomlin stat ever.Steelperch wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:23 amWinning 17 games with 8 TDs would be the most Tomlin stat ever.
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