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Re: Steelers at Broncos Game Comments and Lamentations

Post by swissvale72 » Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:44 am

Orangesteel wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:04 am
Swiss, enough with the rosey bullshit. If this was a situation where a team went a few weeks scoring under 20 points, road games, going against tough defenses, then fine.

This is a MULTI-YEAR thing; the Steelers are trying to win games 16-10 or 17-13 every damn week. Their ability to win or lose is based on how many sacks and QB pressures their all world edge rusher has.

This is not a serious football team. I think what makes it extra frustrating to watch is how awesome this defense is. Imagine if we only had a middle of the road offense?

Here is the deal; the story about the failed Aiyuk trade is true. So, as it is, the Steelers believed up until the first game of the season that Aiyuk would be on this team. The Niners were on the damn phone finalizing a deal when it fell apart.

Now Van Jefferson is our #2 and we’ve scored 1 touchdown in 8 quarters of football. It’s another year of the same exact bullshit. This is not a serious franchise.
I don't think I'm being Rosey, orange. I know this is a flawed fuckin team offensively, I called them out months ago for having no one but Pickens at WR. Hence, I'm going to celebrate every win they can eke out, cuz none of them are gimmes, particularly on the road. I'm fuckin thrilled that both ravens and bungals are 2 games behind



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Post by Orangesteel » Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:50 am

Mick wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:37 am
Orangesteel wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:16 am
It’s not a strategy: they don’t give a shit about scoring points.
yeah at this point you kinda feel like when tomlin says something like “we don’t care about style points” by ‘style points’ he really just means what other people call “points”.
Exactly.

He has a lot of hot air post game bullshit about it but he’s the guy responsible for the worst offense currently in the NFL.

I’ll credit the 2-0 but the offense is an embarrassment.
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Post by Greeksteel » Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:55 am

Steelperch wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:23 am
Jobu wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:19 am
Greeksteel wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:17 am


lol We are on pace for 8 Tds on the season.
Ouch! :lol:
Winning 17 games with 8 TDs would be the most Tomlin stat ever.
True lol

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Post by steelmann58 » Mon Sep 16, 2024 2:05 am

the second half was terrible can't depend on your defense to win all the games and depend on your FG Kicker.
The offense needs to produce more than a single lousy td

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Post by cop1211 » Mon Sep 16, 2024 3:12 am

Did anyone really think anything would be different than the last 4 years???

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Post by stillthere » Mon Sep 16, 2024 3:19 am

cop1211 wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 3:12 am
Did anyone really think anything would be different than the last 4 years???
It already is different. Personnel packages and formations are vastly different from last few years. Last week we rolled the QB left and threw across the field to the right sideline. When have you seen anything like that since Ben was here?

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Post by langer » Mon Sep 16, 2024 9:36 am

Mick wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:37 am
Orangesteel wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:16 am
It’s not a strategy: they don’t give a shit about scoring points.
yeah at this point you kinda feel like when tomlin says something like “we don’t care about style points” by ‘style points’ he really just means what other people call “points”.
That is it.

We dont do style like those other teams, KC and such, if you will. They win by scoring points, we dont need to do that.

A de-evolutionary way of playing football, going back in time.

He's designed a team to never go to the Super Bowl, which is ok, because we don't need that. It's better to be competitive than to actually win. Winning means taking on responsibility and effort. Coach is not about that.

The D is playing well, the offense is absolutely abysmal.
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Post by anpsteel » Mon Sep 16, 2024 2:32 pm

stillthere wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 3:19 am
cop1211 wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 3:12 am
Did anyone really think anything would be different than the last 4 years???
It already is different. Personnel packages and formations are vastly different from last few years. Last week we rolled the QB left and threw across the field to the right sideline. When have you seen anything like that since Ben was here?
The personnel packages and general play designs are certainly different, but the play sequencing and ideology are the same.

Particularly when they go into turtle mode.

Tomlin is the king of living in his fears.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Mon Sep 16, 2024 7:54 pm

stillthere wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:24 am
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:08 am
zeke5123 wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:06 am


The first half the o line cleared a bunch of holes. In the second half…not as much but part of that was Denver attacked the LOS. Hated the call on Moore Jr
I thought that was a good call. Moore grabbed his near the chest plate and turned the defender 90 degrees. That's gonna get called just about every time; turning the player away from where he is going is the real notable part of that.
Watt, Highsmith, Heyward, and a few others would like a word with you.
When they get turned, they usually get a call. When the blocker is engaged and the blocker is turned (as opposed to the rusher) they get more leeway. Do I think it's fair? Not really. But that's what the standard is.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Mon Sep 16, 2024 7:56 pm

swissvale72 wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:01 am
Orangesteel wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:50 am
Steelperch wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:47 am


The bigger issue is aggressiveness. They tried to milk the entire second half clock. All of the good things in play design and play calling we saw in the first half were intentionally shut down in the 2H. It’s that mentality of holding on for a narrow win that is infuriating.. They never have it in them mentally to just bury a bad team.
Yes. Agreed.

I’m ready to see RW. I don’t care if he sucks out loud. This is just terrible to watch.
"Terrible to watch?" I dunno. Could be a whole lot more terrible than 2-0, tso road wins. I refuse to bitch when Steelers are winning. And oh...zero turnovers in two games
It's not like Fields isn't trying! Three fumbled snaps and one nearly picked ball in only two attempts between the numbers on the field. Give him time!

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Mon Sep 16, 2024 7:59 pm

cop1211 wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 3:12 am
Did anyone really think anything would be different than the last 4 years???
I'm SHOCKED. SHOCKED, I say.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Mon Sep 16, 2024 8:00 pm

langer wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 9:36 am
Mick wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:37 am
Orangesteel wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:16 am
It’s not a strategy: they don’t give a shit about scoring points.
yeah at this point you kinda feel like when tomlin says something like “we don’t care about style points” by ‘style points’ he really just means what other people call “points”.
That is it.

We dont do style like those other teams, KC and such, if you will. They win by scoring points, we dont need to do that.

A de-evolutionary way of playing football, going back in time.

He's designed a team to never go to the Super Bowl, which is ok, because we don't need that. It's better to be competitive than to actually win. Winning means taking on responsibility and effort. Coach is not about that.

The D is playing well, the offense is absolutely abysmal.
And Denver hit a flea-flciker for a big gain. Does it mean Denver's offense was innovative yesterday?

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Mon Sep 16, 2024 8:02 pm

langer wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 9:36 am
Mick wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:37 am
Orangesteel wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:16 am
It’s not a strategy: they don’t give a shit about scoring points.
yeah at this point you kinda feel like when tomlin says something like “we don’t care about style points” by ‘style points’ he really just means what other people call “points”.
That is it.

We dont do style like those other teams, KC and such, if you will. They win by scoring points, we dont need to do that.

A de-evolutionary way of playing football, going back in time.

He's designed a team to never go to the Super Bowl, which is ok, because we don't need that. It's better to be competitive than to actually win. Winning means taking on responsibility and effort. Coach is not about that.

The D is playing well, the offense is absolutely abysmal.
Winning means RISK. You have to RISK losing. That's his Rubicon. He will not take a risk nor make a change he doesn't absolutely HAVE to do to avoid a losing season.

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Post by steelmann58 » Tue Sep 17, 2024 12:57 am

The team is controlled by Tomlin no Matter who the OC is.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Tue Sep 17, 2024 1:13 am

Steelperch wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:23 am
Jobu wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:19 am
Greeksteel wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:17 am


lol We are on pace for 8 Tds on the season.
Ouch! :lol:
Winning 17 games with 8 TDs would be the most Tomlin stat ever.
Winning NINE games with 4 TDs would be the most Tomlin stat ever.

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Post by drmalba » Tue Sep 17, 2024 10:43 am

Boukman wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:30 am

Next week vs Chargers has Harbaugh the younger, Jim.
Huh .. i stand corrected. One year younger. I always assumed the reverse, probably because I remember Jim as a.player putting the fear of God into me in that AFCC way back.

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Post by Jizz Mop » Tue Sep 17, 2024 12:15 pm

steelmann58 wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2024 12:57 am
The team is fucked over by Tomlin no Matter who the OC is.
Fixed

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Post by jebrick » Tue Sep 17, 2024 1:19 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2024 1:13 am
Steelperch wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:23 am
Jobu wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:19 am


Ouch! :lol:
Winning 17 games with 8 TDs would be the most Tomlin stat ever.
Winning NINE games with 4 TDs would be the most Tomlin stat ever.
glad I have Boz in my FF league :-)
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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Wed Sep 18, 2024 10:05 am

cop1211 wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 3:12 am
Did anyone really think anything would be different than the last 14 years???
Fixed it 8-)
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