Purdy lousy

[Stlcrtn1974]

Looks like the golden boy is not much better then Pickett when he isn't surrounded by a pro bowl roster. A few of us here that thought his success was his situation he landed in. Just goes to show talent around a qb matters, not just coaching.

[Deebo]

Well the Niners are pretty much cooked.

Also concerning:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/429 ... ms-selfish

[Ice]

Yeah, this is throwing SF into a really interesting offseason quandary with his rookie contract up, aging and increasingly injury prone Avengers around him, and a defense that's going to start needing paid, too. This team could fall off the face of the earth with a couple of even average offseasons.

[K_C_]

Perch and I argued plenty about Purdy during the Kenny years and I will 100% admit Purdy would likely be better than Pickett if they were both surrounded by a star studded cast, at literally every position, like Purdy was early in his his career in San Fran.

......but.......

Watching Purdy now also tells me one important thing: Had the Steelers drafted another player other than Pickett in the first round and Brock Purdy was a late round pick by the Steelers 4 years ago PLAYING IN A MATT CANADA OFFENSE AND WITH THE CONSERVATIVE MIKE TOMLIN AS HIS HEAD COACH, Purdy would either be playing for another organization, or more likely, Brock Purdy would be out of the league altogether.

Much like Miami with Tua but for different reasons, San Fran would be ABSOLUTELY DUMBER THAN SHIT to pay Brock Purdy franchise QB money.

[Pabst]

In other words, San Fran is in the exact same spot they were 10 years ago

[Deebo]

Perch and I argued plenty about Purdy during the Kenny years and I will 100% admit Purdy would likely be better than Pickett if they were both surrounded by a star studded cast, at literally every position, like Purdy was early in his his career in San Fran.

......but.......

Watching Purdy now also tells me one important thing: Had the Steelers drafted another player other than Pickett in the first round and Brock Purdy was a late round pick by the Steelers 4 years ago PLAYING IN A MATT CANADA OFFENSE AND WITH THE CONSERVATIVE MIKE TOMLIN AS HIS HEAD COACH, Purdy would either be playing for another organization, or more likely, Brock Purdy would be out of the league altogether.

Much like Miami with Tua but for different reasons, San Fran would be ABSOLUTELY DUMBER THAN SHIT to pay Brock Purdy franchise QB money.

Think you also have to factor in that Purdy is injured for most of this season.
He wasn't as good as people made him out to be but he's also not this terrible as we've seen lately.

[SteelerDayTrader]

No one made Purdy out to be anything spectacular

Merely that Kenny Touchdown performed far worse than a 7th round QB

The 9ers should have traded Purdy while his value was high

A 2nd and a 4th might’ve been possible

Pretty much same situation as Steelers and Low Watt

Trade value is much higher than performance value and expected future value

[K_C_]

No one made Purdy out to be anything spectacular

You're fucking high.

[K_C_]

Perch and I argued plenty about Purdy during the Kenny years and I will 100% admit Purdy would likely be better than Pickett if they were both surrounded by a star studded cast, at literally every position, like Purdy was early in his his career in San Fran.

......but.......

Watching Purdy now also tells me one important thing: Had the Steelers drafted another player other than Pickett in the first round and Brock Purdy was a late round pick by the Steelers 4 years ago PLAYING IN A MATT CANADA OFFENSE AND WITH THE CONSERVATIVE MIKE TOMLIN AS HIS HEAD COACH, Purdy would either be playing for another organization, or more likely, Brock Purdy would be out of the league altogether.

Much like Miami with Tua but for different reasons, San Fran would be ABSOLUTELY DUMBER THAN SHIT to pay Brock Purdy franchise QB money.

Think you also have to factor in that Purdy is injured for most of this season.
He wasn't as good as people made him out to be but he's also not this terrible as we've seen lately.

Purdy is undersized, with a decent arm and pretty good mobility.

But he is pretty fucking undersized. Watching him try jump passes over bigger linemen yesterday was pretty damn funny.

Don't get me wrong, Purdy is an EXTREMELY GOOD DECISION MAKER with the ball and always seems to throw it to the right/open guy.

He is a good QB. For being "injured", he doesn't look very hampered by that injury.

Purdy looks hampered by not having superstars at literally every position. That's why he looks beyond ordinary now.

......and he would have ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY failed miserably in the Matt Canada/Mike Tomlin offense.

Game. Set. Match.

[SteelerDayTrader]

No one made Purdy out to be anything spectacular

You're fucking high.

[Pabst]

Think you also have to factor in that Purdy is injured for most of this season.

He got hurt week 11 vs Seattle.

I'm not aware of any issues prior to that.

[Pabst]

No one made Purdy out to be anything spectacular

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[K_C_]

No one made Purdy out to be anything spectacular

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[Steelperch]

Purdy’s down year pisses all over Pickett’s best game. I’d say Brock has had a pretty notable career so far for Mr Irrelevant. How would you describe the first QB taken in the draft Kenny Pickett’s career? And had Purdy been a first round pick them media would’ve probably given him the MVP that year, he just didn’t fit their agenda.

[Stosh-67]

He was in a perfect situation to excel.

All world RB,
Very good depth at RB
All pro TE
Top WR room with Deebo, Auiyuk, Jennings,
On top of Going WR in Rnd 1

Run Heavy offense,
with great play caller,
surprise plays, gadget plays,
power running.
not predictable

He could of had it all.

[Pabst]

He was in a perfect situation to excel.

"Not much better than Pickett" isn't a fair statement.

My opinion - If you want to compare him to an example of a good-but-flawed QB who was largely a product of the talent around him, the best one is Andy Dalton. Or, if you prefer the other option from the 2012 draft, Colin Kaepernick.

[bradshaw2ben]

He was in a perfect situation to excel.

All world RB,
Very good depth at RB
All pro TE
Top WR room with Deebo, Auiyuk, Jennings,
On top of Going WR in Rnd 1

Run Heavy offense,
with great play caller,
surprise plays, gadget plays,
power running.
not predictable

He could of had it all.

He's going to get paid, will continue to be great... just not their year. You guys are delusional or wishful that he'll fulfill your naysaying if you can't see he's a really good QB.

[bradshaw2ben]

He was in a perfect situation to excel.

"Not much better than Pickett" isn't a fair statement.

My opinion - If you want to compare him to an example of a good-but-flawed QB who was largely a product of the talent around him, the best one is Andy Dalton. Or, if you prefer the other option from the 2012 draft, Colin Kaepernick.

Purdy is way more than a product of the talent around him. He's a perfect fit for that offense and for distributing the ball.

I think SF got overenamored with running the ball and haven't been throwing as much on early downs as they should in a season without McCaffery.

[Steeldrama]

He was in a perfect situation to excel.

"Not much better than Pickett" isn't a fair statement.

My opinion - If you want to compare him to an example of a good-but-flawed QB who was largely a product of the talent around him, the best one is Andy Dalton. Or, if you prefer the other option from the 2012 draft, Colin Kaepernick.

Purdy is way more than a product of the talent around him. He's a perfect fit for that offense and for distributing the ball.

I think SF got overenamored with running the ball and haven't been throwing as much on early downs as they should in a season without McCaffery.

Injury riddled team don't blame Shanny for getting conservative.

Chief among them Purdy bodyguard Trent Williams.

Losing Aiyuk was brutal.

Deebo Samuel is fat and slow.

I like Purdy

He's no quitter Kenny.

[Steelperch]

How quickly people forget Purdy engineered two go-ahead scoring drives in the 4th quarter of a Super Bowl less than a year ago.

Weird flex wanting to see an undersized Mr Irrelevant fail. Even weirder to bookmark some old posts and bring them back up two years later when the guy loses a few games with a beat to hell roster. Some people hitched their wagons to Kenny Pickett and still can’t let it go. Sad.

[TTP]

He was in a perfect situation to excel.

All world RB,
Very good depth at RB
All pro TE
Top WR room with Deebo, Auiyuk, Jennings,
On top of Going WR in Rnd 1

Run Heavy offense,
with great play caller,
surprise plays, gadget plays,
power running.
not predictable

He could of had it all.

He's going to get paid, will continue to be great... just not their year. You guys are delusional or wishful that he'll fulfill your naysaying if you can't see he's a really good QB.

This. Purdy was terrible last night but has been good (not great) overall this year.

[Steelperch]

"Not much better than Pickett" isn't a fair statement.

My opinion - If you want to compare him to an example of a good-but-flawed QB who was largely a product of the talent around him, the best one is Andy Dalton. Or, if you prefer the other option from the 2012 draft, Colin Kaepernick.

Purdy is way more than a product of the talent around him. He's a perfect fit for that offense and for distributing the ball.

I think SF got overenamored with running the ball and haven't been throwing as much on early downs as they should in a season without McCaffery.

Injury riddled team don't blame Shanny for getting conservative.

Chief among them Purdy bodyguard Trent Williams.

Losing Aiyuk was brutal.

Deebo Samuel is fat and slow.

I like Purdy

He's no quitter Kenny.

Facts. His best wideout held out, then came back out of football shape and was lost for the year to injury. His top RB has hardly seen the field all year. The backup RB is on IR. The top LT has had injuries all year. Starting TE missed 2 games. His #2 WR is playing like shit and looks like he lost a step. #3 WR got shot before the season. Four of their top defenders have missed significant time with injuries or went on IR.

All of that has forced Purdy out of being the efficient QB he is and made him force passes he wouldn’t ordinarily have to causing his numbers to slide a bit. He is still a very good QB. He will never be gifted physically like Josh Allen or Mahomes, but given a good roster he can compete with any of those guys.

Oh, and he’s thrown more TD passes in 12 games of his “down year” than Kenny Pickett has thrown in his entire 3 year NFL career.

[Pabst]

Purdy's supporting cast isn't getting any better any time soon.

Kittle is 31 and has a lengthy injury history. Williams turns 37 over the summer. Javon Hargrave turns 32 in a few weeks. Leonard Floyd turns 33 before next season.

There's 4 core players on the wrong side of 30, two of whom will be coming back from injuries.


Among younger players - McCaffery just ended up on IR for the 3rd time in his career, Deebo is having his issues, and Aiyuk just blew out his knee.

Now add to that the fact that Aaron Banks, Colt McKivitz, Dre Greenlaw, Charvarius Ward, and Talanoa Hufanga are all UFA after this year (plus loads of depth guys).


How do you account for all of that and give Purdy $50 million/year?

[K_C_]

How quickly people forget Purdy engineered two go-ahead scoring drives in the 4th quarter of a Super Bowl less than a year ago.

Weird flex wanting to see an undersized Mr Irrelevant fail. Even weirder to bookmark some old posts and bring them back up two years later when the guy loses a few games with a beat to hell roster. Some people hitched their wagons to Kenny Pickett and still can’t let it go. Sad.

Dude…..please.

When Purdy engineered those drives, he had All Pros and Pro Bowlers surrounding him at literally every position on both sides of the ball.

He also has a genius level offensive mind as a head coach.

Purdy is little, has decent mobility and makes good decisions.

If the 49ers break the bank for him, which I pray they do, as they are indeed headed for one helluva rebuild, that contract will be dumber than Miami giving Tua big dollars.

Holy shit.

[K_C_]

Purdy is way more than a product of the talent around him. He's a perfect fit for that offense and for distributing the ball.

I think SF got overenamored with running the ball and haven't been throwing as much on early downs as they should in a season without McCaffery.

Injury riddled team don't blame Shanny for getting conservative.

Chief among them Purdy bodyguard Trent Williams.

Losing Aiyuk was brutal.

Deebo Samuel is fat and slow.

I like Purdy

He's no quitter Kenny.

Facts. His best wideout held out, then came back out of football shape and was lost for the year to injury. His top RB has hardly seen the field all year. The backup RB is on IR. The top LT has had injuries all year. Starting TE missed 2 games. His #2 WR is playing like shit and looks like he lost a step. #3 WR got shot before the season. Four of their top defenders have missed significant time with injuries or went on IR.

All of that has forced Purdy out of being the efficient QB he is and made him force passes he wouldn’t ordinarily have to causing his numbers to slide a bit. He is still a very good QB. He will never be gifted physically like Josh Allen or Mahomes, but given a good roster he can compete with any of those guys.

Oh, and he’s thrown more TD passes in 12 games of his “down year” than Kenny Pickett has thrown in his entire 3 year NFL career.

You got that excuse machine for Purdy working overtime!! Keep it cranking!!

Don’t forget the sun has been in his eyes and his shoes are too big.

[Steelperch]

How quickly people forget Purdy engineered two go-ahead scoring drives in the 4th quarter of a Super Bowl less than a year ago.

Weird flex wanting to see an undersized Mr Irrelevant fail. Even weirder to bookmark some old posts and bring them back up two years later when the guy loses a few games with a beat to hell roster. Some people hitched their wagons to Kenny Pickett and still can’t let it go. Sad.

Dude…..please.

When Purdy engineered those drives, he had All Pros and Pro Bowlers surrounding him at literally every position on both sides of the ball.

He also has a genius level offensive mind as a head coach.

Purdy is little, has decent mobility and makes good decisions.

If the 49ers break the bank for him, which I pray they do, as they are indeed headed for one helluva rebuild, that contract will be dumber than Miami giving Tua big dollars.

Holy shit.

Well why didn’t Trey Lance excel with the same supporting cast? The QB still gotta make the plays. He processes better than 90% of the QBs in the league and his accuracy is up there too. Those are traits a little guy like Drew Brees played at a high level with for a long time. Not saying to give Purdy a top 5 QB contract, but they’ll be worse off if they let him walk.

[Steelperch]

Injury riddled team don't blame Shanny for getting conservative.

Chief among them Purdy bodyguard Trent Williams.

Losing Aiyuk was brutal.

Deebo Samuel is fat and slow.

I like Purdy

He's no quitter Kenny.

Facts. His best wideout held out, then came back out of football shape and was lost for the year to injury. His top RB has hardly seen the field all year. The backup RB is on IR. The top LT has had injuries all year. Starting TE missed 2 games. His #2 WR is playing like shit and looks like he lost a step. #3 WR got shot before the season. Four of their top defenders have missed significant time with injuries or went on IR.

All of that has forced Purdy out of being the efficient QB he is and made him force passes he wouldn’t ordinarily have to causing his numbers to slide a bit. He is still a very good QB. He will never be gifted physically like Josh Allen or Mahomes, but given a good roster he can compete with any of those guys.

Oh, and he’s thrown more TD passes in 12 games of his “down year” than Kenny Pickett has thrown in his entire 3 year NFL career.

You got that excuse machine for Purdy working overtime!! Keep it cranking!!

Don’t forget the sun has been in his eyes and his shoes are too big.

Kenny’s receiver must’ve slipped every route of his short and pathetic career, right KC? (Inserts 200 rolling smiley faces)

[Pabst]

Not saying to give Purdy a top 5 QB contract, but they’ll be worse off if they let him walk.

But those are your options, unless you think Purdy is willing to sign for less than Trevor Lawrence, Dak Prescott, or Deshaun Watson.

So do you give him $200m guaranteed or do you let him walk?

[Deebo]

No one made Purdy out to be anything spectacular

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Almost the 1 year anniversary of that post.

That's a big ooof

[955876]

Not even sure what the debate is here.

Purdy struggling a bit now make KP any better?

Let’s not pretend like KP didn’t have plenty of open WRs he either never saw or was unable to pull the trigger on.

What Purdy did in that offense as Mr Irrelevant is impressive.

What KP did here wasn’t.

Both can be true while recognizing Purdy is in a better system that had better talent.

What KP has shown he lacks vs Purdy is the ability to make decisions quic and then put the ball where it needs to be accurately and on time.