Jaylen Warren for Steelers' MVP Today

[bradshaw2ben]

They're just a different team without him. The pass pro block he made on the Heyward Jr. TD was essential, plus he runs like a pissed off mofo. Mad respect.

Also, Darnell Washington is amazingly effective, IF YOU JUST THROW THE FOOTBALL TO HIM.

3 catches for 62 yards on 5 targets, and his normal job of blocking his ass off on every other snap.

[drmalba]

Warren absolutely smoking that LB or DE on that blitz pickup got me out of my seat. The kid is just a football player and one of the best UDFAs we've found in a long, long time.

Love him and really want to see the blocking in front of him pick up so he can start putting stats together equivalent to his level of play.

[Boukman]

OC should be designing more pass plays/screens for Warren. He's easily the team's most dynamic player in space and capable of breaking one long anytime.

[tbsteel]

They're just a different team without him. The pass pro block he made on the Heyward Jr. TD was essential, plus he runs like a pissed off mofo. Mad respect.

Also, Darnell Washington is amazingly effective, IF YOU JUST THROW THE FOOTBALL TO HIM.

3 catches for 62 yards on 5 targets, and his normal job of blocking his ass off on every other snap.

Hopefully a sign of more to come for Washington (and more reason to keep Pat off the field). It really has to be a morale killer when you're a defender and you see Washington running straight at you. Just close your eyes and try to hang on.

Warren is an awesome football player. Imagine a guy like him on the 49ers? Dude would be a household name.

[zeke5123]

They're just a different team without him. The pass pro block he made on the Heyward Jr. TD was essential, plus he runs like a pissed off mofo. Mad respect.

Also, Darnell Washington is amazingly effective, IF YOU JUST THROW THE FOOTBALL TO HIM.

3 catches for 62 yards on 5 targets, and his normal job of blocking his ass off on every other snap.

Pass pro was amazing. He also finished his runs with power. There was one 2nd and 10 run where he tricked the defender allowing Warren to pick up the first. He turned a good 8 yard run into a great run. He also made a great cut to get the 8 yards before the truck.

[jmacinwbp]

They're just a different team without him. The pass pro block he made on the Heyward Jr. TD was essential, plus he runs like a pissed off mofo. Mad respect.

Also, Darnell Washington is amazingly effective, IF YOU JUST THROW THE FOOTBALL TO HIM.

3 catches for 62 yards on 5 targets, and his normal job of blocking his ass off on every other snap.

I like Warren's effort, and overall game, my concern is that he physically can't hold up as a true #1 Rb. If Tomlin/Smith intend to keep him under 25, maybe 20 touches /game and use Gainwell & Johnson enough to do that, then he might make it through the rest of the season, and into the POs. Too many carries, and he will most likely break down well before the end of the season.

[StillerDownSouth]

They're just a different team without him. The pass pro block he made on the Heyward Jr. TD was essential, plus he runs like a pissed off mofo. Mad respect.

Also, Darnell Washington is amazingly effective, IF YOU JUST THROW THE FOOTBALL TO HIM.

3 catches for 62 yards on 5 targets, and his normal job of blocking his ass off on every other snap.

I like Warren's effort, and overall game, my concern is that he physically can't hold up as a true #1 Rb. If Tomlin/Smith intend to keep him under 25, maybe 20 touches /game and use Gainwell & Johnson enough to do that, then he might make it through the rest of the season, and into the POs. Too many carries, and he will most likely break down well before the end of the season.

Right now he has 67 touches in 4 games played, 16.75 per game, if they can keep him around this number he should hold up, last year he averaged 10 a game, in '23 he averaged a little over 12.

[Havoc]

Warren is why you don't waste prime draft capital on a RB sans game breaking speed with hands in the passing game.

He's a good solid player, nothing more. RB is the most plug n play college to pro position in the NFL.

Washington is a large human being with good hands. That's it. His movements look like he's playing football underwater. Maybe if he loses weight he could be more,

We are an offensive starved organization. Talent & coaching.

[bradshaw2ben]

You’re watching a different player than I am. He eats up so much ground and got past the defenders on the first catch with a swim move. Dude is very athletic and it just looks weird because he’s so big.

[Steelperch]

Warren is why you don't waste prime draft capital on a RB sans game breaking speed with hands in the passing game.

He's a good solid player, nothing more. RB is the most plug n play college to pro position in the NFL.

Washington is a large human being with good hands. That's it. His movements look like he's playing football underwater. Maybe if he loses weight he could be more,

We are an offensive starved organization. Talent & coaching.

He’s an absolute matchup nightmare. The league is about matchups. He’s effectively an extra tackle on the line. How does a D counter that? Put an extra D linemen out there? Then you throw him the ball. Put a LB on him? Then he bulldozes you in the run game. You can’t win against him.

The league has a long history of teams being fairly evenly matched. Unique players and dominant units make all the difference. He’s not a sexy 4.2 / 40 WR, but he brings the same level of issues for a defense.

I like Muth and think he’s an upper half of the league TE talent, but Washington gives the team more and Jonnu Smith is every bit the receiver as Muth. The issue is the team can’t afford to pay Muth what they do for how little they use him. Hopefully there is a trade before the deadline or at worst come draft time.

[Havoc]

We'll see on Washington

He's ginormous with good hands. That's useful

He had 3 catches for 62 yds.

He got behind the defense on the 1st play because the D completely ignored him.

Again, ginormous with good hands is useful.

[SteelPro]

We'll see on Washington

He's ginormous with good hands. That's useful

He had 3 catches for 62 yds.

He got behind the defense on the 1st play because the D completely ignored him.

Again, ginormous with good hands is useful.

Didn’t Rodgers also miss fire one to him on a roll out? The production was good but his impact on the game was far greater than that.

[bradshaw2ben]

We'll see on Washington

He's ginormous with good hands. That's useful

He had 3 catches for 62 yds.

He got behind the defense on the 1st play because the D completely ignored him.

Again, ginormous with good hands is useful.

I mean, that the defense completely ignored him is the point: a true TE1 is such a good blocking threat that it opens up opportunities for him in the play action game.

Right now, here's what the Steelers TE situation looks like:

Jonnu Smith: 171 snaps (134 since wk 1) 20 targets 17 rec 89 yds 4.5 y/tgt. 5.2 y/rec 1 TD
Darnell Washington: 164 snaps (138 since wk 1) 9 tgt 6 rec 82 yds 9.1 yds/tgt 13.7 y/rec. 0 TDs
Pat Freiermuth: 133 snaps (105 since wk 1) 11 targets 8 rec 76 yds 6.9 y/tgt 9.5 y/rec 0 TDs

[Havoc]

We'll see on Washington

He's ginormous with good hands. That's useful

He had 3 catches for 62 yds.

He got behind the defense on the 1st play because the D completely ignored him.

Again, ginormous with good hands is useful.

I mean, that the defense completely ignored him is the point: a true TE1 is such a good blocking threat that it opens up opportunities for him in the play action game.

Right now, here's what the Steelers TE situation looks like:

Jonnu Smith: 171 snaps (134 since wk 1) 20 targets 17 rec 89 yds 4.5 y/tgt. 5.2 y/rec 1 TD
Darnell Washington: 164 snaps (138 since wk 1) 9 tgt 6 rec 82 yds 9.1 yds/tgt 13.7 y/rec. 0 TDs
Pat Freiermuth: 133 snaps (105 since wk 1) 11 targets 8 rec 76 yds 6.9 y/tgt 9.5 y/rec 0 TDs

It's his third season in the league. He has six receptions in five games.

He'd be better as a route runner if he shed some weight.

Wait and see on Washington for me.

[bradshaw2ben]

We'll see on Washington

He's ginormous with good hands. That's useful

He had 3 catches for 62 yds.

He got behind the defense on the 1st play because the D completely ignored him.

Again, ginormous with good hands is useful.

I mean, that the defense completely ignored him is the point: a true TE1 is such a good blocking threat that it opens up opportunities for him in the play action game.

Right now, here's what the Steelers TE situation looks like:

Jonnu Smith: 171 snaps (134 since wk 1) 20 targets 17 rec 89 yds 4.5 y/tgt. 5.2 y/rec 1 TD
Darnell Washington: 164 snaps (138 since wk 1) 9 tgt 6 rec 82 yds 9.1 yds/tgt 13.7 y/rec. 0 TDs
Pat Freiermuth: 133 snaps (105 since wk 1) 11 targets 8 rec 76 yds 6.9 y/tgt 9.5 y/rec 0 TDs

It's his third season in the league. He has six receptions in five games.

He'd be better as a route runner if he shed some weight.

Wait and see on Washington for me.

I'm merely saying, he is the Steelers defacto TE1 and I wouldn't be surprised if they trade Freiermuth for help elsewhere.

[StillerDownSouth]

Pat has to be a likely trade candidate at this point, if not during the season then definitely before the draft.

[stillthere]

He got behind the defense on the 1st play because the D completely ignored him.

That is the point. Now everyone has to see where he is and a S may spend an extra hitch looking his way while giving #4 an extra half step on the outside.

[tbsteel]

Myself and a few other *certified elite* poasters have been screaming from up high on the mountain for literally the past 2+ years how Warren was clearly the better football player than Najee and should've been our #1 back with the majority of the touches. And we had to listen to one excuse after another for Najee. The OL was trash, the offense was trash, the coaches are trash... if only Najee could play in a real offense, he would be a stud. If. If. If. And after we didn't use our 5th year option on him we had to hear about how he was going to get some big contact in FA and take off on another team. Just wait and see! And all Warren did was f'n outplay his play fat ass consistently since day one.

And what's Warren doing this year? He's a fucking bellcow mini-superstar. Putting up legit numbers one of the most basic offenses in the league today that doesn't even really have a #2 WR let alone a #3 lol. His advanced stats are through the roof.

He was our best player on offense last year and is our best player on offense this year.

[TimmayLake]

Myself and a few other *certified elite* poasters have been screaming from up high on the mountain for literally the past 2+ years how Warren was clearly the better football player than Najee and should've been our #1 back with the majority of the touches. And we had to listen to one excuse after another for Najee. The OL was trash, the offense was trash, the coaches are trash... if only Najee could play in a real offense, he would be a stud. If. If. If. And after we didn't use our 5th year option on him we had to hear about how he was going to get some big contact in FA and take off on another team. Just wait and see! And all Warren did was f'n outplay his play fat ass consistently since day one.

And what's Warren doing this year? He's a fucking bellcow mini-superstar. Putting up legit numbers one of the most basic offenses in the league today that doesn't even really have a #2 WR let alone a #3 lol. His advanced stats are through the roof.

He was our best player on offense last year and is our best player on offense this year.

Anyone with eyes could see the Najee was always in the fight of his life to average 3.9 YPC whereas Warren was ripping off explosive runs every game. The stats don't lie...look at Warren's YPC compared to Big Naj.

[tbsteel]

Myself and a few other *certified elite* poasters have been screaming from up high on the mountain for literally the past 2+ years how Warren was clearly the better football player than Najee and should've been our #1 back with the majority of the touches. And we had to listen to one excuse after another for Najee. The OL was trash, the offense was trash, the coaches are trash... if only Najee could play in a real offense, he would be a stud. If. If. If. And after we didn't use our 5th year option on him we had to hear about how he was going to get some big contact in FA and take off on another team. Just wait and see! And all Warren did was f'n outplay his play fat ass consistently since day one.

And what's Warren doing this year? He's a fucking bellcow mini-superstar. Putting up legit numbers one of the most basic offenses in the league today that doesn't even really have a #2 WR let alone a #3 lol. His advanced stats are through the roof.

He was our best player on offense last year and is our best player on offense this year.

Anyone with eyes could see the Najee was always in the fight of his life to average 3.9 YPC whereas Warren was ripping off explosive runs every game. The stats don't lie...look at Warren's YPC compared to Big Naj.

I just reported your post… for being too GD good.

[CKSteeler]

I still don't get why they didn't have Harris lose weight. They went in the opposite direction and he bulked up despite having no explosiveness to speak of.

[StillerDownSouth]

Problem with Steelers coaches and front office is they thought so little of Jaylen that they wasted draft capital that could have went to WR on a RB in the 3rd round that won't see the field as long as Jaylen is healthy, between that wasted pick and the Jack Sawyer pick they could have a much better WR room.

IMO, if you are going to draft a RB, you take a bonified HOF type caliber player in the 1st round that's a true difference maker, not a pussy like Mendenhall or a plodder like Najee, or you take one in round 6 or 7.

[.Kodiak]

I'm merely saying, he is the Steelers defacto TE1 and I wouldn't be surprised if they trade Freiermuth for help elsewhere.

That TE production isn't great IN TOTAL. Even after a relative explosion, in a losing effort, against CIN.

[Works At A Bank]

Myself and a few other *certified elite* poasters have been screaming from up high on the mountain for literally the past 2+ years how Warren was clearly the better football player than Najee and should've been our #1 back with the majority of the touches. And we had to listen to one excuse after another for Najee. The OL was trash, the offense was trash, the coaches are trash... if only Najee could play in a real offense, he would be a stud. If. If. If. And after we didn't use our 5th year option on him we had to hear about how he was going to get some big contact in FA and take off on another team. Just wait and see! And all Warren did was f'n outplay his play fat ass consistently since day one.

And what's Warren doing this year? He's a fucking bellcow mini-superstar. Putting up legit numbers one of the most basic offenses in the league today that doesn't even really have a #2 WR let alone a #3 lol. His advanced stats are through the roof.

He was our best player on offense last year and is our best player on offense this year.

Anyone with eyes could see the Najee was always in the fight of his life to average 3.9 YPC whereas Warren was ripping off explosive runs every game. The stats don't lie...look at Warren's YPC compared to Big Naj.

Yeah? Well take away his longest runs…. lol j/k

[955876]

Problem with Steelers coaches and front office is they thought so little of Jaylen that they wasted draft capital that could have went to WR on a RB in the 3rd round that won't see the field as long as Jaylen is healthy, between that wasted pick and the Jack Sawyer pick they could have a much better WR room.

IMO, if you are going to draft a RB, you take a bonified HOF type caliber player in the 1st round that's a true difference maker, not a pussy like Mendenhall or a plodder like Najee, or you take one in round 6 or 7.

Jibbs has NEVER figured out how to build a roster. Year in and year out we have a glaring hole somewhere and it’s almost always due to a failed mindset when drafting and putting team together.

Need a RB? Get cute and draft wee bitty Dre Archer.

Badly need a WR? It’s ok. Draft a RB instead even though you ended up with two guys on your practice squad that would have done as good or much likely WAY better than Kaleb Johnson in Lew Nichols and the other guy.

Just dumb dumb dumb idiots.

[bradshaw2ben]

I'm merely saying, he is the Steelers defacto TE1 and I wouldn't be surprised if they trade Freiermuth for help elsewhere.

That TE production isn't great IN TOTAL. Even after a relative explosion, in a losing effort, against CIN.

True.

[Steeldrama]

Sean Payton said Bill Parcells compared Cam Skattebo to Rocky Bleier

What a great comp

But hey we have Kaleb Johnson

I’m sure he reminded Tomlin of Najee