Fine not suspend DK

[TTP]

why is it we think he will be suspended when the precedent with league is fine only? also lamar jackson shoved a fan a few weeks ago and got no disclipine..now i assume the fan being physical in that case is why jackson got nothing but if the precedent is a fine ..or nothing, why do we think DK will get suspended? the fan has admitted he was trying to draw a reaction. and DK fid not contact the fan noe ofc, dk is dumb af for falling for it but it should only cost him money if thats the precedent as reported

Just watched the replay of the Lamar incident. It's way different for a number of reasons:

1. The fan puts his hands on the players first, slapping DeAndre Hopkins helmet, then Lamar. DK initiated contact with the fan.
2. Lamar retaliated with a shove, not a punch like DK (even if the punch didn't land cleanly).
3. Lamar and DHop were celebrating a TD near the stands, whereas DK left the bench area on his own to confront the fan.

Another difference is the DK story seems to have traction in the media. It's the #1 headline on ESPN.com and was seen semi-live on national TV. I am sure it will be a top story on all of the ESPN this week. We know the NFL if very image conscious. See the Ray Rice fiasco. Rice admitted everything to NFL investigators but didn't get punished until the video surfaced and became a huge story.

[anpsteel]

why is it we think he will be suspended when the precedent with league is fine only? also lamar jackson shoved a fan a few weeks ago and got no disclipine..now i assume the fan being physical in that case is why jackson got nothing but if the precedent is a fine ..or nothing, why do we think DK will get suspended? the fan has admitted he was trying to draw a reaction. and DK fid not contact the fan noe ofc, dk is dumb af for falling for it but it should only cost him money if thats the precedent as reported

Just watched the replay of the Lamar incident. It's way different for a number of reasons:

1. The fan puts his hands on the players first, slapping DeAndre Hopkins helmet, then Lamar. DK initiated contact with the fan.
2. Lamar retaliated with a shove, not a punch like DK (even if the punch didn't land cleanly).
3. Lamar and DHop were celebrating a TD near the stands, whereas DK left the bench area on his own to confront the fan.

Another difference is the DK story seems to have traction in the media. It's the #1 headline on ESPN.com and was seen semi-live on national TV. I am sure it will be a top story on all of the ESPN this week. We know the NFL if very image conscious. See the Ray Rice fiasco. Rice admitted everything to NFL investigators but didn't get punished until the video surfaced and became a huge story.

There’s another incident where a Phan poured beer on Lamar and Lamar went after him

In that scenario, the fan was banned from the stadium and from future NFL games and nothing happened to Lamar

[CoolShades]

Suspend this stupid asshat for rest of year

Fine him 1 mill

New angle of altercation

https://x.com/TomPelissero/status/2002929712755261854

I didn’t see a punch, but why was DK way over there by the crowd by himself? That’s quite a distance from the bench. If that guy said anything like Metcalf is claiming, other people would have heard it, including the security that for some reason let Metcalf get close to the guy.

He should be suspended. I don’t think his story adds up.

[Gonzo]

do you get fined or suspended for entering the field during a play as a non-player and try to trip a kick returner?

[swissvale72]

Being biased… Obviously… I'm predicting no suspension. League is not going to want to fuck with a competitive balance at this point in the season due to one asshole fan getting out of line. DK is also claiming that there was a racial slur involved.

[Deebo]

Being biased… Obviously… I'm predicting no suspension. League is not going to want to fuck with a competitive balance at this point in the season due to one asshole fan getting out of line. DK is also claiming that there was a racial slur involved.

I agree.
If DK publicly states there was a racial component, the league will believe him over a fan. Even if there is no evidence to support that claim.

It'll be a fine at best.

[Gonzo]

i agree that he is only going to be fined -- rooney obviously has a lot of front office pull at the moment

[Dan Smith--BYU]

The fan baited him and was openly cheering and celebrating in a not injured state when he retaliated with a shadow box punch designed not to land.

If this were the WNBA I have no doubt the fan would be held totally responsible.

That being said, DK was dumb. Every insult does not deserve to be confronted.

I doubt that DK studied Aurelius' Meditations at Old Miss but it would have helped.

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

Suspend this stupid asshat for rest of year

Fine him 1 mill

New angle of altercation

https://x.com/TomPelissero/status/2002929712755261854

I didn’t see a punch, but why was DK way over there by the crowd by himself? That’s quite a distance from the bench. If that guy said anything like Metcalf is claiming, other people would have heard it, including the security that for some reason let Metcalf get close to the guy.

He should be suspended. I don’t think his story adds up.

That’s the whole point. Why is he there ? That’s a no no

So dumb these idiots

[gojira5150]

Boy o boy the participation award folks are up in arms about metcalf



Don’t want to get punched

Don’t start mouthing off


If you wouldn’t say it in public - don’t do it period

Charles Barkley used to regularly get into altercations with obnoxious fans

He tossed one through a window one time


Fans think they have some right to mouth of

Because the player will get in trouble

If your comments would illicit a physical response in a “normal” circumstance- don’t expect any different



I completely agree metcalf should not have engaged the fan

That being said


We don’t know what the asshat was saying


Suppose it was something along the lines of

I’m going to F your daughter

Or some N bomb kind of shit

Oh, I remember the Barkley incident as I was there. Actually Barkley is a really cool dude. We were just chilling hanging out (I wasn't in his group but loved B-Ball) and some wiseass started popping off at the lip and well he met Mr. Window. I was going to ASU at the time. Played Softball against Ainge, pickup B-Ball against Ceballos and Majerle (got destroyed and I was pretty damn good). You really don't know how big these guys are until you stand next to them.
Met Bo Jackson at the mall coming out of Footlocker. He was massive. Scottsdale was the place to be. Hung out with the Grandson of the man who started Campbells soup.

[TTP]

Suspend this stupid asshat for rest of year

Fine him 1 mill

New angle of altercation

https://x.com/TomPelissero/status/2002929712755261854

I didn’t see a punch, but why was DK way over there by the crowd by himself? That’s quite a distance from the bench. If that guy said anything like Metcalf is claiming, other people would have heard it, including the security that for some reason let Metcalf get close to the guy.

He should be suspended. I don’t think his story adds up.

That’s the whole point. Why is he there ? That’s a no no

So dumb these idiots

Right, DK walked over there and initiated contact with the fan on national TV. It was very visible and likely to generate negative publicity. And, totally idiotic.

The suspension is likely to come down to media coverage. If ESPN makes a big deal about it and is the lead on their flagship shows, then the NFL will take action.

[anpsteel]

Boy o boy the participation award folks are up in arms about metcalf



Don’t want to get punched

Don’t start mouthing off


If you wouldn’t say it in public - don’t do it period

Charles Barkley used to regularly get into altercations with obnoxious fans

He tossed one through a window one time


Fans think they have some right to mouth of

Because the player will get in trouble

If your comments would illicit a physical response in a “normal” circumstance- don’t expect any different



I completely agree metcalf should not have engaged the fan

That being said


We don’t know what the asshat was saying


Suppose it was something along the lines of

I’m going to F your daughter

Or some N bomb kind of shit

Oh, I remember the Barkley incident as I was there. Actually Barkley is a really cool dude. We were just chilling hanging out (I wasn't in his group but loved B-Ball) and some wiseass started popping off at the lip and well he met Mr. Window. I was going to ASU at the time. Played Softball against Ainge, pickup B-Ball against Ceballos and Majerle (got destroyed and I was pretty damn good). You really don't know how big these guys are until you stand next to them.
Met Bo Jackson at the mall coming out of Footlocker. He was massive. Scottsdale was the place to be. Hung out with the Grandson of the man who started Campbells soup.

Bo strikes me as a guy build like a frikin tank- significantly wider than your average human

I've met barkley a few times, and yeah- he was a cool dude- albeit with very little interaction. Not surprisingly, he was much more interested in the woman that introduced us. lol

Barkley and Cebalos used to be out and about quite a bit, back then. I've run into them, several times back in the day. (this is when I lived in Seattle- and when the Suns where in town.)

I could go through a list of sports figures and celebrities that are taller, shorter, etc than you anticipated-
One that stands out, was Chris Berman. I had no idea he was a big guy. (Probably a bit bigger than Barkley) Berman found my back,back, back, back, pretty annoying- so that conversation didn't last long lol
David Robinson unfolded in front of me, walking through a doorway. It's a trip standing next to people that are that much bigger.

[rooneytunes]

Not to excuse DK forr this and it's on the Steelers to get ahead of this and have someone bring DK back before anything happens but.......seeing reports DK has a history with this fan. States he reported him to security last year while with Seattle. So maybe whatever happened last year is what Ocho is talking about and DK sees him again and the dude trash talks him again and.....well. Fan sounds like a bitch

[gojira5150]

Boy o boy the participation award folks are up in arms about metcalf



Don’t want to get punched

Don’t start mouthing off


If you wouldn’t say it in public - don’t do it period

Charles Barkley used to regularly get into altercations with obnoxious fans

He tossed one through a window one time


Fans think they have some right to mouth of

Because the player will get in trouble

If your comments would illicit a physical response in a “normal” circumstance- don’t expect any different



I completely agree metcalf should not have engaged the fan

That being said


We don’t know what the asshat was saying


Suppose it was something along the lines of

I’m going to F your daughter

Or some N bomb kind of shit

Oh, I remember the Barkley incident as I was there. Actually Barkley is a really cool dude. We were just chilling hanging out (I wasn't in his group but loved B-Ball) and some wiseass started popping off at the lip and well he met Mr. Window. I was going to ASU at the time. Played Softball against Ainge, pickup B-Ball against Ceballos and Majerle (got destroyed and I was pretty damn good). You really don't know how big these guys are until you stand next to them.
Met Bo Jackson at the mall coming out of Footlocker. He was massive. Scottsdale was the place to be. Hung out with the Grandson of the man who started Campbells soup.

Bo strikes me as a guy build like a frikin tank- significantly wider than your average human

I've met barkley a few times, and yeah- he was a cool dude- albeit with very little interaction. Not surprisingly, he was much more interested in the woman that introduced us. lol

Barkley and Cebalos used to be out and about quite a bit, back then. I've run into them, several times back in the day. (this is when I lived in Seattle- and when the Suns where in town.)

I could go through a list of sports figures and celebrities that are taller, shorter, etc than you anticipated-
One that stands out, was Chris Berman. I had no idea he was a big guy. (Probably a bit bigger than Barkley) Berman found my back,back, back, back, pretty annoying- so that conversation didn't last long lol
David Robinson unfolded in front of me, walking through a doorway. It's a trip standing next to people that are that much bigger.

The scariest dude I meant in person was Iron Mike Tyson. We were at UCLA Greek week and he came in, I shook his hand, and it felt like I was in a vise grip. Looked like he wanted to kill me. Massive shoulders.
Bo was a Fridge on legs. Really nice guy.
I am/was really good friends with Sean Rooks, RIP. He and I would BS alot. Now I'm 6'3 225. I stood next to Rooks & Ed Stokes at a ASU UofA game and it felt like standing between trees.
I asked Rooks who the hardest guy to guard was and without hesitation he said Gran Mama Larry Johnson. Said he was the strongest dude he ever faced. Bull in a china shop

[anpsteel]

Oh, I remember the Barkley incident as I was there. Actually Barkley is a really cool dude. We were just chilling hanging out (I wasn't in his group but loved B-Ball) and some wiseass started popping off at the lip and well he met Mr. Window. I was going to ASU at the time. Played Softball against Ainge, pickup B-Ball against Ceballos and Majerle (got destroyed and I was pretty damn good). You really don't know how big these guys are until you stand next to them.
Met Bo Jackson at the mall coming out of Footlocker. He was massive. Scottsdale was the place to be. Hung out with the Grandson of the man who started Campbells soup.

Bo strikes me as a guy build like a frikin tank- significantly wider than your average human

I've met barkley a few times, and yeah- he was a cool dude- albeit with very little interaction. Not surprisingly, he was much more interested in the woman that introduced us. lol

Barkley and Cebalos used to be out and about quite a bit, back then. I've run into them, several times back in the day. (this is when I lived in Seattle- and when the Suns where in town.)

I could go through a list of sports figures and celebrities that are taller, shorter, etc than you anticipated-
One that stands out, was Chris Berman. I had no idea he was a big guy. (Probably a bit bigger than Barkley) Berman found my back,back, back, back, pretty annoying- so that conversation didn't last long lol
David Robinson unfolded in front of me, walking through a doorway. It's a trip standing next to people that are that much bigger.

The scariest dude I meant in person was Iron Mike Tyson. We were at UCLA Greek week and he came in, I shook his hand, and it felt like I was in a vise grip. Looked like he wanted to kill me. Massive shoulders.
Bo was a Fridge on legs. Really nice guy.
I am/was really good friends with Sean Rooks, RIP. He and I would BS alot. Now I'm 6'3 225. I stood next to Rooks & Ed Stokes at a ASU UofA game and it felt like standing between trees.
I asked Rooks who the hardest guy to guard was and without hesitation he said Gran Mama Larry Johnson. Said he was the strongest dude he ever faced. Bull in a china shop

I can see Tyson being that guy. Particularly, when he was young and unhinged. There are interviews from when he was in his prime- and the interviewer looks genuinely scared.

Not surprising that Larry Johnson was a beast, but he came across as a pretty good guy- on the other hand I always figured Charles Oakley had to be somewhere on the, don't eff with him, list of nba players. As in, short trigger

[955876]

Pretty clear he's going to be suspended. I suspect just a game.

Completely inexcusable and a terrible look for the Steelers organization.

When your team discipline is as loose as that found on the Good Ship Lolipop what do you expect?

Maybe Jibbs will say no ping pong this week.

[K_C_]

The fan baited him and was openly cheering and celebrating in a not injured state when he retaliated with a shadow box punch designed not to land.

If this were the WNBA I have no doubt the fan would be held totally responsible.

That being said, DK was dumb. Every insult does not deserve to be confronted.

I doubt that DK studied Aurelius' Meditations at Old Miss but it would have helped.

Not buying the “shadow box” punch.

DK tried to punch the dude in the face. He simply missed.

Metcalf should not have gone near the fan and no matter what was said, you absolutely cannot punch a fan. Especially if they don’t punch you first. That could start a fucking riot.

He’s getting suspended.

[drmalba]

If DK isn't suspended by the league, no matter what discipline they hand down, Tomlin should bench him to start the game next week. At least enough that he forfeits his game check for that week.

Even if the league fines him, the team should show they mean business and he needs to play his role, which is to be a professional, not some hotheaded malcontent. If we wanted that level of fan interaction jackassery, we'd have just kept Pickens.

[Texas Black & Gold]

If DK isn't suspended by the league, no matter what discipline they hand down, Tomlin should bench him to start the game next week. At least enough that he forfeits his game check for that week.

Even if the league fines him, the team should show they mean business and he needs to play his role, which is to be a professional, not some hotheaded malcontent. If we wanted that level of fan interaction jackassery, we'd have just kept Pickens.

Here here

[SteelPro]

Ok.. now it is really getting interesting. Reports are DK reported this same fan to security last year in a game while playing for the Seahawks. If that is true that changes things quite a bit.

[tbsteel]

Ok.. now it is really getting interesting. Reports are DK reported this same fan to security last year in a game while playing for the Seahawks. If that is true that changes things quite a bit.

Actually, not at all.

[sinceiwas4]

so this guy disguises himself so dk cant recognize him, then baits him over with a dk jersey to sign so he thinks hes going to have a good interaction with a fan then calls his mom a cunt and him a n*** revealing himself to be the same lions fan he reported to security last yr and dk grabs him says some shit and shoves him away after doing so and u think if true, that changes nothing in the eyes of the league? it changes public opinion compared to "dk goes after lions fan and punches him in the face" by a mile. and as u correctly stated, tb, nfl cares about public opinion more than anything.

[sinceiwas4]

and to be clear even tho i think it changes alot i still think DK should be gined for being an idiot that cant not grab a fan, but suspension would be ridiculous here given all info ..if correctly reported

[SteelPro]

Ok.. now it is really getting interesting. Reports are DK reported this same fan to security last year in a game while playing for the Seahawks. If that is true that changes things quite a bit.

Actually, not at all.

Ok let’s look it this from the league’s perspective as everything they do is concerned with CYA for the shield. Which is a worse narrative?

A) NFL player throws a missed punch at a fan
B) The League/Team allows a fan to make repeated derogatory/racial comments to a player spanning multiple seasons

This completely changes the narrative. It changes the public perception and it also will change the Players Association stance and/or defense of the incident. So yes, it changes things quite a bit.

[tbsteel]

Nothing you said changes the fact that is inexcusable to reach up to the stands and attempt to punch someone.

He'll be suspended for the Browns game. And for good reason.

[drmalba]

Ok.. now it is really getting interesting. Reports are DK reported this same fan to security last year in a game while playing for the Seahawks. If that is true that changes things quite a bit.

It's even worse if DK knows the guy is just a shit-stirring drunken buffoon and still engages.

Call security and get the idiot removed, don't go trying to defend your family's honor or whatever he alleges on national TV when likely no one except the two involved can corroborate what was actually said. If You don't control the camera, you don't control the narrative.

[Greeksteel]

I think he gets fined at most, and if its true that Metcalf already had reported this idiot to security last year, then ban the fan. People are
making it out like DK beat the crap out of this guy. He grabbed him and shoved him, ban the fan and fine Metcalf and move on, not much to see here imo.

[SteelPro]

Ok.. now it is really getting interesting. Reports are DK reported this same fan to security last year in a game while playing for the Seahawks. If that is true that changes things quite a bit.

It's even worse if DK knows the guy is just a shit-stirring drunken buffoon and still engages.

Call security and get the idiot removed, don't go trying to defend your family's honor or whatever he alleges on national TV when likely no one except the two involved can corroborate what was actually said. If You don't control the camera, you don't control the narrative.

Security was notified previously and management (NFL/Lions) still allow this individual access. I’m not saying DK wasn’t in the wrong. Suspension probably will happen. But he won’t be the only one in hot water over this.

[K_C_]

Nothing you said changes the fact that is inexcusable to reach up to the stands and attempt to punch someone.

He'll be suspended for the Browns game. And for good reason.

Yep.

These dudes hear racist shit all the time, especially in rivalry games.

They're used to it and most of all....they are PROFESSIONALS. DK 1) shouldn't have gone near that fan during a game and 2) whatever the fan said (the fan said he called DK by his birth name which is long and a bit strange) all DK had to do was find security, tell them what the fan said to him and if it was out of line, the dude would have been tossed.

Reaching up and trying to punch a fan DK SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOWHERE NEAR during a game especially, crosses a huge line these PROFESSIONAL football players know not to cross.

[Deebo]

Nothing you said changes the fact that is inexcusable to reach up to the stands and attempt to punch someone.

He'll be suspended for the Browns game. And for good reason.

Yep.

These dudes hear racist shit all the time, especially in rivalry games.

They're used to it and most of all....they are PROFESSIONALS. DK 1) shouldn't have gone near that fan during a game and 2) whatever the fan said (the fan said he called DK by his birth name which is long and a bit strange) all DK had to do was find security, tell them what the fan said to him and if it was out of line, the dude would have been tossed.

Reaching up and trying to punch a fan DK SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOWHERE NEAR during a game especially, crosses a huge line these PROFESSIONAL football players know not to cross.

What DK did wasn't that different from what Lamar did. I don't expect a suspension. Likely a hefty fine