Steelers at Chargers SNF Game Comments & Bedwetting

[steelmann58]

Let’s elevate Wilson he scored a TD

[Steelperch]

That was the most pissy I’ve seen Tomlin in a presser in a long while.

He blamed 3rd down offense and turnovers if you missed it.

[steelmann58]

How are we favorite next week

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

That was the most pissy I’ve seen Tomlin in a presser in a long while.

He blamed 3rd down offense and turnovers if you missed it.

His defense didn’t make the stops when it needed to

Full stop!!

He can rest with his turnovers when his ass is show. The door, He’s too spiteful to resign

[steelmann58]

The offense tonight was a complete Clusterfuck

[Orangesteel]

That was the most pissy I’ve seen Tomlin in a presser in a long while.

He blamed 3rd down offense and turnovers if you missed it.

Fuck him

[CKSteeler]

Tomlin made sure to credit that Minter guy at the top of his press conference for the Chargers win. The guy is massively insecure underneath the surface level confidence and his hatred of the Harbaugh's probably played into that.

[Stillerz Bar]

That was the most pissy I’ve seen Tomlin in a presser in a long while.

He blamed 3rd down offense and turnovers if you missed it.

His defense didn’t make the stops when it needed to

Full stop!!

He can rest with his turnovers when his ass is show. The door, He’s too spiteful to resign

To be fair, the D actually had at least a few stops.

On the other hand, the O sucked all night long. Outside of the garbage time TD there was rarely a moment when the looked even barely competent. The combo of their turnovers and the safety gave the Chargers almost half of the their points.

Not absolving the D but the majority of the reason we lost falls on the D shoulders of the Offense. The coaches put together terrible plan and the players were mostly incompetent. Any signs of life for the O at all and this game may have been competitive.

[LakecrestSteeler]

That was the most pissy I’ve seen Tomlin in a presser in a long while.

He blamed 3rd down offense and turnovers if you missed it.

His defense didn’t make the stops when it needed to

Full stop!!

He can rest with his turnovers when his ass is show. The door, He’s too spiteful to resign

To be fair, the D actually had at least a few stops.

On the other hand, the O sucked all night long. Outside of the garbage time TD there was rarely a moment when the looked even barely competent. The combo of their turnovers and the safety gave the Chargers almost half of the their points.

Not absolving the D but the majority of the reason we lost falls on the D shoulders of the Offense. The coaches put together terrible plan and the players were mostly incompetent. Any signs of life for the O at all and this game may have been competitive.

The soft underbelly of the defense was on full display the whole night. If Rodgers and the offense had gotten the lead at any one point, the Chargers would have run right through us when it mattered.

Tomlin’s philosophical approach has absolutely ruined this team and organization. I watched and knew immediately that something needed to be done to get Rodgers going early. He needed a 2 minute or no huddle offense in the first quarter to snap him and the team out of it…so obvious to anyone that knows this team. Yet Tomlin wanted the super conservative 3.25% yield and he got it! Fuck him!

We all want the 15% YTD yield on our Steeler 401K, but Tomlin has the whole account in a 3.25% high yield savings account!

[K_C_]

Just ain’t our night.

Ya, just not our night.

This team is never winning anything of significance with this clown running the show.

Tomlin wants to play conservative football in a league where offense is king. That's how it's always going to be, no use in bitching about it.

Late in the game, down 20, Arthur Smith still had multiple TE's on the field for a 2 minute drill. That's how they like to play. Late in the game when Wilson caught that meaningless garbage time TD, that was the first time all night the Steelers had their top 3 WR's on the field at the same time. It's beyond bizarre but that is Arthur Smith/Mike Tomlin football.

Sadly as much as I hate Tomlin, tonight's problem was Rodgers.

I htink his finger is really fucked up. Everything was high or overthrown. They had a chance to take control of this game early, but he kept missing open receivers.

Next week, we better get the Rodgers from the first Cincy game, along witht he defense from the Colts game.

[bradshaw2ben]

Let’s elevate Wilson he scored a TD

That was the utter definition of garbage time score. Where was he when the game was happening?

One target for Washington. ONE. Jaylen Warren starting to get rolling... sent to the sideline.

I'm not sure what the offensive plan is, but it looks an awful lot like they don't know, either.

[langer]

Has Rodgers reached the end of his rope with Coach T? He seemed pissed early on last night.

I hope so. Are talents like AR also prone to bouts of anger, ups and downs others who aren't as talented will never see? I think so. he's mercurial.

Could be the turning point. 3 points until a garbage TD. That won't sit well. The team is once again letting down a generational QB talent because it's more comfortable with schlubs and bums.

[bradshaw2ben]

Tomlin made sure to credit that Minter guy at the top of his press conference for the Chargers win. The guy is massively insecure underneath the surface level confidence and his hatred of the Harbaugh's probably played into that.

You know Minter is in his coaching tree, right? Minter's dad was Tomlin's first coaching boss and the younger Minter was mentored by Tomlin, modeled his coaching after him.

[LakecrestSteeler]

Let’s elevate Wilson he scored a TD

One target for Washington. One.

One target is a travesty!

That was on my list of stats to look up. I knew it was one in my heart. But I went to passive watching the game after the Dicker’s 59 yarder; back and forth on YouTube videos.

As I said in the game thread and elsewhere, Rodgers needed a 2 minute/no huddle drill early to snap the O out of the funk. Should have run 5 in a row to The Washing Machine after he forced the first reception! Would have helped his high balls.

You know what else would have helped the high balls? George Pickens!

[K_C_]

Let’s elevate Wilson he scored a TD

That was the utter definition of garbage time score. Where was he when the game was happening?

One target for Washington. ONE. Jaylen Warren starting to get rolling... sent to the sideline.

I'm not sure what the offensive plan is, but it looks an awful lot like they don't know, either.

How can Wilson make plays if he’s almost never on the field and never targeted? Christ Jonnu Smith, who looks like he runs about a 5.9 40 time now is out there in the 2 minute drill with Freiermuth and DK. It’s ridiculous the amount of personnel changes that take place each series.

Reminds me of 12 year old girl’s soccer or basketball.

Everyone has to play and play a lot.

….and it would be the exact same scenario had they landed a big time #2 receiver before the deadline too.

This is Arthur Smith’s offense. They are built to play with a lead (mainly a few Boz field goals) and that’s how Tomlin wants it.

[bradshaw2ben]

Let’s elevate Wilson he scored a TD

That was the utter definition of garbage time score. Where was he when the game was happening?

One target for Washington. ONE. Jaylen Warren starting to get rolling... sent to the sideline.

I'm not sure what the offensive plan is, but it looks an awful lot like they don't know, either.

How can Wilson make plays if he’s almost never on the field and never targeted? Christ Jonnu Smith, who looks like he runs about a 5.9 40 time now is out there in the 2 minute drill with Freiermuth and DK. It’s ridiculous the amount of personnel changes that take place each series.

Reminds me of 12 year old girl’s soccer or basketball.

Everyone has to play and play a lot.

….and it would be the exact same scenario had they landed a big time #2 receiver before the deadline too.

This is Arthur Smith’s offense. They are built to play with a lead (mainly a few Boz field goals) and that’s how Tomlin wants it.

If you're closely following Roman Wilson, you should be able to see what I'm talking about in terms of his usage. He NEEDS to be put in scheme positions where he can run away from people. Short-area motion into the slot, route combos on the 2 or 3 side where he can catch in space and run.

The Steelers' offense is static and lacks imagination in terms of route structures and usage corresponding to skillset of the receiver. Wilson isn't really going to shine until they have a new OC and a new offensive mentality.

[K_C_]

That was the utter definition of garbage time score. Where was he when the game was happening?

One target for Washington. ONE. Jaylen Warren starting to get rolling... sent to the sideline.

I'm not sure what the offensive plan is, but it looks an awful lot like they don't know, either.

How can Wilson make plays if he’s almost never on the field and never targeted? Christ Jonnu Smith, who looks like he runs about a 5.9 40 time now is out there in the 2 minute drill with Freiermuth and DK. It’s ridiculous the amount of personnel changes that take place each series.

Reminds me of 12 year old girl’s soccer or basketball.

Everyone has to play and play a lot.

….and it would be the exact same scenario had they landed a big time #2 receiver before the deadline too.

This is Arthur Smith’s offense. They are built to play with a lead (mainly a few Boz field goals) and that’s how Tomlin wants it.

If you're closely following Roman Wilson, you should be able to see what I'm talking about in terms of his usage. He NEEDS to be put in scheme positions where he can run away from people. Short-area motion into the slot, route combos on the 2 or 3 side where he can catch in space and run.

The Steelers' offense is static and lacks imagination in terms of route structures and usage corresponding to skillset of the receiver. Wilson isn't really going to shine until they have a new OC and a new offensive mentality.

I mean, obviously you’re right and using motion would give Wilson an advantage but we both know the Steelers won’t do that. Still, Roman gets open but Rodgers seems predetermined as to where he’s going with the ball. On the bomb in Cincy to DK that was easily picked, Wilson ran underneath DK and was wide the fuck open for a 25-30 yard gain. They had another long overthrow yesterday where Wilson came open, but Rodgers over threw someone (probably DK) and those are just bad decisions.

Tomlin’s an idiot but Rodgers was terrible yesterday (and he was pretty bad in the Colts game) and it might be time to worry about him. He locks on to a receiver and only on the rare occasions he escapes pressure, will Rodgers look elsewhere. He played panicked football yesterday, sometimes unnecessarily.

[bradshaw2ben]

The offense the past three weeks has been very Kenny Pickett-like. They've truly had only two really good offensive showings this year, vs two of the worst defenses in football, NYJ & CIN. Their defense gave up 65 points in those two games!

Next week sets up to be the antimatter version of last night: An offensive explosion version of the defensive dominance of last night. It could be a Last-Team-With-the-Ball kind of scenario.

[langer]

Any skilled offensive player that would come to the Steelers would be someone who is on his way out of the league.

This isn't exactly a numbers generating affair. No Mike Martz on the sideline.

This is a wasteland of bums and degenerates.

[955876]

Just ain’t our night.

Ya, just not our night.

This team is never winning anything of significance with this clown running the show.

Tomlin wants to play conservative football in a league where offense is king. That's how it's always going to be, no use in bitching about it.

Late in the game, down 20, Arthur Smith still had multiple TE's on the field for a 2 minute drill. That's how they like to play. Late in the game when Wilson caught that meaningless garbage time TD, that was the first time all night the Steelers had their top 3 WR's on the field at the same time. It's beyond bizarre but that is Arthur Smith/Mike Tomlin football.

Sadly as much as I hate Tomlin, tonight's problem was Rodgers.

I htink his finger is really fucked up. Everything was high or overthrown. They had a chance to take control of this game early, but he kept missing open receivers.

Next week, we better get the Rodgers from the first Cincy game, along witht he defense from the Colts game.

I get all that and have acknowledged it.

Doesn’t mean we don’t need a legit #2 WR.

As I keep saying, this team is fucking dumb and can’t see their own flaws.

[K_C_]

That was the most pissy I’ve seen Tomlin in a presser in a long while.

He blamed 3rd down offense and turnovers if you missed it.

His defense didn’t make the stops when it needed to

Full stop!!

He can rest with his turnovers when his ass is show. The door, He’s too spiteful to resign

To be fair, the D actually had at least a few stops.

On the other hand, the O sucked all night long. Outside of the garbage time TD there was rarely a moment when the looked even barely competent. The combo of their turnovers and the safety gave the Chargers almost half of the their points.

Not absolving the D but the majority of the reason we lost falls on the D shoulders of the Offense. The coaches put together terrible plan and the players were mostly incompetent. Any signs of life for the O at all and this game may have been competitive.

Yep.

This loss was directly on the offense. Had opportunities for big plays and TD's early and Rodgers simply misfired.

Then ran himself into a safety, like a retard. Don't get me wrong. Rodgers has been a revelation so far at the QB position for the Steelers but he played scared last night and I think that pinkie finger is definitely bothering him.

His accuracty has been waaaaaay the fuck off.

[stillthere]

If for some reason you wish to re-watch that shit

https://vkvideo.ru/video-207666197_4562 ... vtoday.com

[stillthere]

Let’s elevate Wilson he scored a TD

Garbage TD when LAC were just interested in milking clock same as the FG against the Colts last week.

[stillthere]

Tomlin made sure to credit that Minter guy at the top of his press conference for the Chargers win. The guy is massively insecure underneath the surface level confidence and his hatred of the Harbaugh's probably played into that.

'Cept he has known Minter since that guy was a Sophomore in HS. Tomlin coached under his dad at Cincinnati. More of his tipping of the cap to being shown up by someone he knows personally. Sean McDermott (BUF) does it often enough.

[Steel Bingo]

Sweet run to get that first down. Could have been a loss.

Warren getting rocked this game.

I hope he finishes it.

Still believe that the best version of Jaylen Warren is as part of a tandem, with the other half being able to take on more of the grinder role.

Kaleb Johnson must be utilized moving forward. Warren's sweet spot for effectiveness looks to be in the 15 - 20 touch range for most games. Gainwell is a nice complementary offensive player, but is not enough of a bruiser to pair well with Jaylen.

The offense has to develop a #2 RB, or perhaps a 1B running back depending on the matchup, in order to help out the QB. Looking at how the roster is assembled with all the tight ends, a #2 running option looks more important than having a true #2 wide receiver at this point. The QB cannot be expected to pass 2/3 of the time on offense. Balance is required.

The Steelers have a guy who could be a solid additional ball carrier on the roster already, so it makes since to utilize him as part of the game plan. This weekend's tilt against the Bengals looks like a great time for him to get going.

[Deebo]

Warren getting rocked this game.

I hope he finishes it.

Still believe that the best version of Jaylen Warren is as part of a tandem, with the other half being able to take on more of the grinder role.

Kaleb Johnson must be utilized moving forward. Warren's sweet spot for effectiveness looks to be in the 15 - 20 touch range for most games. Gainwell is a nice complementary offensive player, but is not enough of a bruiser to pair well with Jaylen.

The offense has to develop a #2 RB, or perhaps a 1B running back depending on the matchup, in order to help out the QB. Looking at how the roster is assembled with all the tight ends, a #2 running option looks more important than having a true #2 wide receiver at this point. The QB cannot be expected to pass 2/3 of the time on offense. Balance is required.

The Steelers have a guy who could be a solid additional ball carrier on the roster already, so it makes since to utilize him as part of the game plan. This weekend's tilt against the Bengals looks like a great time for him to get going.

I see nothing in C Johnson that indicates he's a dynamic guy who would benefit with more touches. He's pretty much a Najee Harris clone, which means he's woefully average.

Warren is the guy that needs to touch the ball more, but they have this weird fetish with Gainwell

[Steel Bingo]

Still believe that the best version of Jaylen Warren is as part of a tandem, with the other half being able to take on more of the grinder role.

Kaleb Johnson must be utilized moving forward. Warren's sweet spot for effectiveness looks to be in the 15 - 20 touch range for most games. Gainwell is a nice complementary offensive player, but is not enough of a bruiser to pair well with Jaylen.

The offense has to develop a #2 RB, or perhaps a 1B running back depending on the matchup, in order to help out the QB. Looking at how the roster is assembled with all the tight ends, a #2 running option looks more important than having a true #2 wide receiver at this point. The QB cannot be expected to pass 2/3 of the time on offense. Balance is required.

The Steelers have a guy who could be a solid additional ball carrier on the roster already, so it makes since to utilize him as part of the game plan. This weekend's tilt against the Bengals looks like a great time for him to get going.

I see nothing in C Johnson that indicates he's a dynamic guy who would benefit with more touches. He's pretty much a Najee Harris clone, which means he's woefully average.

Warren is the guy that needs to touch the ball more, but they have this weird fetish with Gainwell

Kaleb Johnson has 18 total touches this season. I'm giving him at least until the end of the season before passing judgment.

Najee Harris was an Alabama Crimson Tide thoroughbred who could touch the ball 25-30+ times a game and come back and do it again the following week. That durability was part of what made him so first-round worthy for the Pittsburgh Steelers in the 2021 draft. Warren isn't built like that.

And it won't be solely about what Kaleb Johnson himself can accomplish. His involvement will help wear down the defense and take pressure off the other offensive players. He only had two carries, but on one of them, #6 for the Chargers came up shaking off the cobwebs.

KJ should be seeing at least 10 touches a game. Ideally 15 if it can work out that way.